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Post by ihca on Oct 5, 2005 23:14:52 GMT -5
Hey guys: we are looking for a few more hunting members in Central Indiana. visit www.indianahuntclub.com to see what we will accomplish! - |
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Post by ActionPoint on Oct 5, 2005 23:30:16 GMT -5
Do you have properties in mind already. $5,000 isn't going to get much land for 10 people at the prices leases are going for.
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Post by ihca on Oct 5, 2005 23:59:47 GMT -5
To be honest: I have 3-4 lease opportunities at $5 per acre, but all are down by paoli/french lick. This is about a 2-hour drive at not realistic for me. If they are still available, I would love to trade info for central indiana opportunities. I have viewed several properties in the $5000 range that are still sitting (for various reasons) and have some more opportunities in the brew.
I think the market will correct itself. I am aware of some properties receiving $20-30 per acre, but other states have averages of $2-3 per acre and have been leasing land for much longer. Once the land owners sit a year without receiving $5-10 per acre because they are holding out for $20- you will see them going back to the $5-10 payers.
This is just my thought.
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Post by cambygsp on Oct 6, 2005 6:22:56 GMT -5
Whats this thing all about?  ? A "non-profit" lease broker? Do I understand correctly......it costs $495.00 just to find out whats up? ?.....lol lol Yea right! |
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Post by drs on Oct 6, 2005 7:00:29 GMT -5
Hey guys: we are looking for a few more hunting members in Central Indiana. visit www.indianahuntclub.com to see what we will accomplish! - TOO HIGH!!!!!  |
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Post by Rick Lyon on Oct 6, 2005 7:42:19 GMT -5
YEAH!!!!!!!, leasing & outfitters are on their way to IN!!!!
Just think, after most of the private ground is leased and/or controlled by outfitters, IN can then start posting the high P&Y and B&C numbers that the other "properly" managed states do!
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Post by drs on Oct 6, 2005 9:02:17 GMT -5
YEAH!!!!!!!, leasing & outfitters are on their way to IN!!!! Just think, after most of the private ground is leased and/or controlled by outfitters, IN can then start posting the high P&Y and B&C numbers that the other "properly" managed states do! If any State wants to have quality hunting, then they should hire qualified Wildlife Biologists to do the job. Businessmen only have $$$ signs in their eyes and No pratical knowledge of modern wildlife management. I really doubt if Indiana will become one of those states with high "P&Y" or "B&C" Bucks. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 6, 2005 9:09:05 GMT -5
YEAH!!!!!!!, leasing & outfitters are on their way to IN!!!! Just think, after most of the private ground is leased and/or controlled by outfitters, IN can then start posting the high P&Y and B&C numbers that the other "properly" managed states do! If any State wants to have quality hunting, then they should hire qualified Wildlife Biologists to do the job. Businessmen only have $$$ signs in their eyes and No pratical knowledge of modern wildlife management. I really doubt if Indiana will become one of those states with high "P&Y" or "B&C" Bucks. We are currently number 6 in production of P & Y and B &C bucks.. But some folke want us to " be like Illinois" and have all their problems along with it - including mass leasing by outfitters. |
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Post by Rick Lyon on Oct 6, 2005 9:43:52 GMT -5
Exactly right Woody!
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Post by drs on Oct 6, 2005 10:25:50 GMT -5
Hunting is becomming too political! I wish it would go back the way it was when I started hunting in the early 1960's
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Post by raporter1 on Oct 6, 2005 10:37:22 GMT -5
Hunting is becomming too political! I wish it would go back the way it was when I started hunting in the early 1960's Sigh!!!,  some of us understand, not as many deer but we sure had fun. |
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Post by drs on Oct 6, 2005 10:55:37 GMT -5
Hunting is becomming too political! I wish it would go back the way it was when I started hunting in the early 1960's Sigh!!!, some of us understand, not as many deer but we sure had fun. It seems that the State(s) keep screamming "there's too many Deer" but at the same time they are making things more difficult for us to hunt all those Deer. One has to buy a certain tag/license for the type weapon and pay a premium price, then if that isn't enough you have these landowners with $$ signs in their eyes gouging the hunters who are just looking for a place to hunt, and have a fair chance of a legal harvest. Sport Hunting is fast becomming more of a unplesant chore rather nthan an enjoyable past time. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 6, 2005 11:06:05 GMT -5
Rick, drs, and reporter1…
AMEN fellers, AMEN…
What some people fail to grasp that "restrictions" are just that RESTRICTIONS.
RESTRICT too much and we lose hunters..
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Post by reynoldss on Oct 6, 2005 13:06:27 GMT -5
I agree....it seems that most contributors to this site failed to grasp that the restrictions on fenced hunting operations might be a step in the "too much" direction. Give an inch today to the anti's and it will be easier to give an inch tomorrow. Don't plan on fighting over it with anyone....just my opinion and I know it means very little.
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Post by jbwhttail on Oct 6, 2005 16:29:14 GMT -5
All you need to loo to is the "hunting industry", 1000.00 bows, 1200.00 rifled shotguns and so on. Scent lok suits at 200.00, 400.00 tree stands. Gas prices thru the roof, yet we as hunters balk at giving a landowner a few bucks? I read on this site where guys were looking for places to hunt, who here volunteered to take them or share a spot with them? Those are the guys who will eventually lease. It isn't big antlers that lead to leasing, it has been in Indiana for years, that is a fact! Many States to our South will NEVER grow big antlered deer, but the land is leased, why is that? People want a secure place to enjoy hunting without the jerks. The IDHA teamed up with a State biologist to match hunters with landowners this year. 22 landowners said they were interested, of those 10 have granted permission for a "stranger" to hunt. Instead of  ing work for a resoloution. Leasing will only support what the market will bear. Folks who do not want to lease, need to work hard or hunt public land. Ask landowners why they don't allow hunting today, it isn't risk. It is the actions of hunters in the past! "WE" created this, "WE" believe it is "our right" to hunt on private property, it isn't! I pay thousands of dollars a year to own and hunt on private property in the absoloute best deer territory in Indiana. I do it by HARD WORK. Not one darn thing has been given to me except the opportunity to succeed. Amazing that we all have money for equipment, license, gas, motel rooms, campers and food, but money to a landowner, forget it. We aren't ever going back to the ??'s, so we have to learn to adapt. Do I support leasing? No. But I am a realist and saw the writing on the wall in the 80's, everyone laughed at me then. I smile today.......... Form a hunt club, but purchase the land, it insures the future.......... |
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Post by Hawkeye on Oct 6, 2005 17:19:51 GMT -5
All you need to loo to is the "hunting industry", 1000.00 bows, 1200.00 rifled shotguns and so on. Scent lok suits at 200.00, 400.00 tree stands. Gas prices thru the roof, yet we as hunters balk at giving a landowner a few bucks? I read on this site where guys were looking for places to hunt, who here volunteered to take them or share a spot with them? Those are the guys who will eventually lease. It isn't big antlers that lead to leasing, it has been in Indiana for years, that is a fact! Many States to our South will NEVER grow big antlered deer, but the land is leased, why is that? People want a secure place to enjoy hunting without the jerks. The IDHA teamed up with a State biologist to match hunters with landowners this year. 22 landowners said they were interested, of those 10 have granted permission for a "stranger" to hunt. Instead of *****ing work for a resoloution. Leasing will only support what the market will bear. Folks who do not want to lease, need to work hard or hunt public land. Ask landowners why they don't allow hunting today, it isn't risk. It is the actions of hunters in the past! "WE" created this, "WE" believe it is "our right" to hunt on private property, it isn't! I pay thousands of dollars a year to own and hunt on private property in the absoloute best deer territory in Indiana. I do it by HARD WORK. Not one darn thing has been given to me except the opportunity to succeed. Amazing that we all have money for equipment, license, gas, motel rooms, campers and food, but money to a landowner, forget it. We aren't ever going back to the ??'s, so we have to learn to adapt. Do I support leasing? No. But I am a realist and saw the writing on the wall in the 80's, everyone laughed at me then. I smile today.......... Form a hunt club, but purchase the land, it insures the future.......... JB,you are right on with this post,some can not see the forest for the trees. |
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Oct 6, 2005 17:43:01 GMT -5
As of last year all my hunting spots went belly up and I had nothing. I was desperate and 2 days before the opening day of gun I leased a spot without seeing it so my kids could have a spot to hunt. I'm in the same boat this year. I even went and looked at couple peices but I've decided I will not lease because I don't support it. I cannot believe the land that is going this way in my area. I know I'm only one but I will give up hunting before I lease. Oh and isn't funny you see advertisements "300 acres for lease @ $10 an acre" and when you look at it's 285 acres of harvested crop land and 15 acres of woods. What kind of crap is that? How many people are going to hunt in the middle of that havested field? I live less than 3 miles from HNF land and have never hunted it and never will because of safety reasons. I was lucky enough to be granted today a 5 acre parcel in Jennings county. It's not big but it's a funnel along a river. I will set my kids up a spot there. Most likely I will not hunt this year (sorry woodmaster) but as long as I can keep my kids in it I'll be happy enough. I've told my son who will start college next year that once he gets out his first priority should be to buy himself some land. Actually now that I think of it I do have 1 day hunting at Crane. So hopefully that'll be my lucky day  |
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Oct 6, 2005 17:50:35 GMT -5
Leasing will only support what the market will bear. Folks who do not want to lease, need to work hard or hunt public land. Nope, Giving up hunting and loosing them is an option too.... |
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Post by ActionPoint on Oct 6, 2005 18:05:12 GMT -5
I agree, most guys don't have the luxury to worry about the size of the antlers, they simply want a consistent and productive place to hunt. About the only way to even have access to most properties is by owning it or leasing it. Here in Northern Indiana you can't touch a half decent property unless you've got several thousand to spend and some spend that much for land they'll be luck to get one doe off of. Sure, a few guys might get lucky and find a landowner that's willing to let them hunt, but those opportunities are few and far between and disappearing faster each year. It's the same thing with goose hunting, I hear people complain all the time about the geese on their property spoiling the ponds and tearing up the lawns and being a nuisance, but they still have no hesitation telling you NO if you ask them if you can hunt on their property. I know guys that have plenty of land to hunt with plenty of deer and they will never offer or invite someone to come out and hunt. It's just the mentality that most hunters have in this state.
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Post by jbwhttail on Oct 6, 2005 21:42:41 GMT -5
Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!
So what we have is Hoosier hunters who disagree with IDNR???
IDNR reported this year that ONLY 3% of landowners in Indiana are leasing hunting rights.............
So what say you folks is the number right?
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some of us understand, not as many deer but we sure had fun.
