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Post by bbarth on Oct 11, 2005 19:50:50 GMT -5
YES!!!!!!!!! What a joke that someone would even answer no........what a waste. One word = ETHICS!
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Post by raporter1 on Oct 11, 2005 21:23:34 GMT -5
YES!!!!!!!!! What a joke that someone would even answer no........what a waste. One word = ETHICS! Are you going to drag that spoiled deer in and take it to the checkin station? The deer is already a waste. Please explain what is ethical about dragging in a spoiled deer.
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Post by cambygsp on Oct 11, 2005 21:38:47 GMT -5
YES!!!!!!!!! What a joke that someone would even answer no........what a waste. One word = ETHICS! Are you going to drag that spoiled deer in and take it to the checkin station? The deer is already a waste. Please explain what is ethical about dragging in a spoiled deer. That was also my point. Just tagging the deer don't make it legal....you got to drag that swelled up carcass to the check station too. Are you gonna field dress it too? Go ahead and dress that deer thats been laying in 85+ degree heat for two days....you'll be too sick to take it to the check station.
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Post by budfields on Oct 11, 2005 21:40:57 GMT -5
I voted.. YES to tagging the animal.. I guess I am "from the old school" and IF I wanted the deer bad enough to make the shot attempt to begin with.. I WILL TAG IT when I recover it.
I spoke with the farmers that owns the properties surrounding the area I hunt and they ALWAYS telling me how often they find the remains of deer that have been shot with arrows and firearms and the hunters simply does not try to recover it and that is a BAD reflection on the hunter.
One landowner told me he NO LONGER allows deer hunting on his property because of this and that sure makes it tough on a serious deer hunter like myself.
Noone wants to lose a deer and I realize it happens but IF it happens and you find the deer later. I suggest you tag the animal and at least dispose of the carcass where it will not be found by landowners and add fuel to the fire of those trying to get deer hunting stopped.
GOOD HUNTING.. Bud Fields
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 11, 2005 21:49:35 GMT -5
I do not believe that you have to "check a deer" in to burn a deer tag.
"Tagging it" in this case just means that you have used the tag and it is now gone.
I've seen some late recovered deer that was found a couple days later and the coyotes found it the first few hours.
In those cases there was no recovery except a few bones - antlers if it was a buck.
I think this falls into one of theose "ethical' situations and everyone knows ethics are very personal..
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Post by cambygsp on Oct 11, 2005 22:00:03 GMT -5
I bow shot one about 6 years ago, late in the afternoon hunt.......
The weather was cool and I ran out of light.
At first light the next morning I resumed my search, finding the doe about 100 yards from where I marked my last blood spot the night before. The weather was not a factor as it had dropped to the mid 30s.
When I found the deer, half the hind quarter was GONE, the guts had been pulled from the cavity and eaten and intestines were strung everywhere. They had also worked on the anus area eating a big chunk out there also.
I thought it would have been kind of ridiculous to write my name on a piece of paper and then burn it.....there was no way I was gonna drag that deer a half mile to the truck and take a half eaten deer to the check station.
I never dreamed the yotes would find it that fast!
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Post by gundude on Oct 11, 2005 22:53:54 GMT -5
I haven’t read all this thread nor am I going to see everyone else’s opinion because that would be TOTALY IRREALIVENT! WHEN I make the decision to pull the trigger or release the arrow I have also made the decision to fill my tag. If I don’t find the deer for two days because of a whole array of potential factors that may come in to play then to bad! That’s my loss........ Or maybe my stupidity.......... IT all goes back to ethics. Part of Ethics is playing by the rules.... If you can't do that then give up hunting and take up Poker.
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Post by idhmc on Oct 11, 2005 23:24:22 GMT -5
Just a suggestion here, but a person could call a ICO and explain the situation and most always they will give a tag as if you found the deer. This will put the animal into the count at ends harvest and ease some of the frustrations and still keep ethics because you know that deer has not been forgotten about. If it was a doe, this would really be a good avenue to travel IMO
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Post by hornharvester on Oct 12, 2005 4:56:54 GMT -5
a few years ago one of my friends shot a big 10 pt buck that had been hit sometime in the summer with a car or train. the buck had a broke back leg that healed up with part of the leg tendon sticking out. the buck only weigh 90 lbs, skinny. he would have weighed 160 + if normal. my friend call the local dnr and they said not to tag him or eat the meat and that my friend could use his tag again. so he threw the meat away and kept the horns and used his tag again on another buck later on. was this right? he did what the dnr told him. h.h.
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Post by grappledad on Oct 12, 2005 6:33:53 GMT -5
It sounds to me like most guys would tag it as a self imposed punishment. If I've made every effort to recover the deer then don't find it I assume it didn't die. And that's not wanton waste because I made every effort to recover it. But let me say this, loseing a deer makes me sick so I trained my dog to track a blood trail.He recovered one for me last year. I hold a LTL so burning a tag is not the question. If you use any part of the deer like horns, back straps or anything else it needs to be tagged, even if it was a road kill.
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Post by cambygsp on Oct 12, 2005 6:57:45 GMT -5
The QUESTION was.......... Should you tag a deer that was recovered ***too late***.
First of all........"too late for WHAT"
If it's a ANTLERED deer... and it's the ANTLERS you want....seeing how ANTLERS won't spoil....I don't think it would ever be "too late". And *IF* you are going to take the antlers....then by all means YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR TAG ON IT!!!!
But please remember........to make it legal, you must ALSO check the deer, and there are some rules that go along with that....like you MUST take the WHOLE carcass to the check station, not just the antlers or just the head.
if it's "Too Late", meaning it's a antlerless deer and it's the MEAT you wanted......then why are you even trying to recover it if you are sure it's spoiled.? What in the world can you do with a antlerless deer thats been laying in high heat for several days, and swelled up so bad that when you touch it, it just explodes?
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Post by bullwinkle on Oct 12, 2005 13:26:31 GMT -5
Camby,
Not going to touch that pheasant question eh?
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Post by birddog on Oct 13, 2005 13:00:38 GMT -5
I posed this very question on another Hunting Forum and the answers I recieved back were that everyone would have tagged the deer.Now my question would be is it because everybody that replied to my question was a "non-resident" of Indiana so do they look at deer hunting a little different than us Hoosiers do???
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Post by cambygsp on Oct 13, 2005 13:12:03 GMT -5
You go Pheasant hunting. The bag limit is 2. You kill one put it in your game bag. Later one comes up at close range and instead of letting it get out away from you you bast it at ten yards. The bird is blown to bits with no usuable meat. You have no excuse as far as the recovery as it's right there in front of you. Do you count it as your limit and stop hunting or hide it in the grass somewhere and continue to hunt for another bird to complete your limit. Camby, what would you do personally in this example? lol lol I would personaly NEVER shoot a bird that close. But even then, I have shot plenty of birds at distances longer than 10-15 yards..... and destroyed them with factory shells. I pick the bird up and put it in the vest....just like all the others!
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Post by birddog on Oct 13, 2005 13:36:57 GMT -5
I pick the bird up and put it in the vest....just like all the others! The above is what was said earler.....My question is: What's the difference in picking up a bird that you'll not clean and leaving a deer lay in the field? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ?
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Post by cambygsp on Oct 13, 2005 13:44:43 GMT -5
Because it's a fresh kill....something on that bird might be salvagable. AND....you don't have to take a bird to a check station...it's not swelled and swolen to the point it's gonna POP.
And you don't have to purchase a license for each and every bird you harvest!
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Post by birddog on Oct 13, 2005 13:57:15 GMT -5
But a kill is a kill..If you shot the deer then it's your responsability to track it and TAG it when found no matter what the yotes have ate or no matter how spoiled it is....Period!
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Post by cambygsp on Oct 13, 2005 15:21:30 GMT -5
But a kill is a kill..If you shot the deer then it's your responsability to track it and TAG it when found no matter what the yotes have ate or no matter how spoiled it is....Period! Did you read this from a earlier poster??? ""a few years ago one of my friends shot a big 10 pt buck that had been hit sometime in the summer with a car or train. the buck had a broke back leg that healed up with part of the leg tendon sticking out. the buck only weigh 90 lbs, skinny. he would have weighed 160 + if normal. my friend call the local dnr and they said not to tag him or eat the meat and that my friend could use his tag again. so he threw the meat away and kept the horns and used his tag again on another buck later on. was this right? he did what the dnr told him. h.h. "" If your theory is correct....when does one quit looking?...lol What about when you find it 6 months later and all that is left is scattered bones?....It's not even deer season then? I think common since should prevail........
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Post by birddog on Oct 13, 2005 15:30:45 GMT -5
I think what we're talking about here is..THE NEXT DAY..Not 6 months down the road,If one that shoots a deer it's his or her duty to try and find it with in a reasonable amount of time and at that time IF it's found it is then their responsability as a "hunter" to tag that said deer.I'm talking the NEXT DAY..not 6 months down the road.It seems to me that you want to save your tag for something you can take home and either eat or show off, but that's not always what happens.
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