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Post by hunter480 on Nov 27, 2006 13:51:35 GMT -5
If you don't have anything nice to say ... just keep your mouth shut and that is exactly what I'm going to do. This amoung other reasons is why I hate gun season more and more each year. You can either shoot real well or got real lucky. Congrats either way. My opinion is only valid or invited if I agree with whatever everyone else is going along with? I made NO disparaging remarks towards the shooter-only gave my OPINION that the shot was irresponsible. I only want to clear up, if possible, any malice or bad feelings in regards to my comments in this thread-I AM NOT a politically correct person, so I state what I feel and believe, even if it ruffles some feathers. I do apologize for any feelings I`ve trampled on-and would invite comments in regards to my initial question-is my opinion only valid if I am going along with everyone else?
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Post by dec on Nov 27, 2006 13:58:07 GMT -5
No, no, no, Hunter480, I wasn't knocking you. I was telling myself to keep my mouth shut, which of course I could not do.
I'm 100% in agreement with you man. I'm biting and biting my tonge about these kinds of shots and the unloading a gun at a running deer types of shots.
Gun season can't end soon enough, IMO.
I'm on your side 480!
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Post by hunter480 on Nov 27, 2006 14:01:52 GMT -5
No, no, no, Hunter480, I wasn't knocking you. I was telling myself to keep my mouth shut, which of course I could not do. I'm 100% in agreement with you man. I'm biting and biting my tonge about these kinds of shots and the unloading a gun at a running deer types of shots. Gun season can't end soon enough, IMO. I'm on your side 480! Thanks man-I just appreciate the validation, that I`m not THAT far out of touch with my belief’s. No one else had sided with me, only criticized me, so I thought I was the only one who saw an issue there.
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Post by hoyt1166 on Nov 27, 2006 15:33:39 GMT -5
A shot at that distance can be a chip shot in the right hands. Not knowing the individual and commenting on the shot is the irresponsible part in my opinion. I have no problems shooting a standing deer at 200 yards with my muzzlelaoder because a.) I know that the weapon and ammunition will kill at that distance and b.) because I've practiced repeatedly at that distance. However, for me, I don't shoot at anything over 150 for the same reason why I won't shoot my bow over 30 (although I'm quite proficient with my bow out to 60) for the same reason: too many variables that can lead to a wounding and not a humane dispatch of the deer.
I couldn't help but notice that you didn't comment on the individual who shot a deer while running at 100 yards which in my opinion is a much more dangerous shot that a deer at 175 that is standing (http://huntingindiana.proboards52.com/index.cgi?board=deerhunting&action=display&thread=1164577683) Just curious as to why you didn't blast him as opposed to Bubba?
Heck, I know a lot of people that I'd rather see shoot a muzzleloader at 200 versus a bow at 40 but I'm constantly reading about people missing these shots or worse yet wounding a deer and not recovering it. That said, it's not my place to criticize an individual unless I know that individual and know they shouldn't be shooting at those distances. In the past 3 days, I've seen a small buck with an arrow in its rump and another buck limping along with the lower part of its leg missing. I'm more irritated at that then seeing someone shoot long distance at a deer and has put down that deer.
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Post by dec on Nov 27, 2006 16:02:23 GMT -5
I couldn't help but notice that you didn't comment on the individual who shot a deer while running at 100 yards which in my opinion is a much more dangerous shot that a deer at 175 that is standing (http://huntingindiana.proboards52.com/index.cgi?board=deerhunting&action=display&thread=1164577683) Just curious as to why you didn't blast him as opposed to Bubba? I commented. Had to bite my tongue, but I'm pretty sure my feelings came across. I'm so tired of reading about and seeing first hand the poor shot selections, semi-auto rapid fire, running shots, head shots, neck shots, and all the other questionable garbage that goes on. Not just on here, but other sites as well. I could rant all day about this and related topics. Again, coo-dos to an accurate long range shot with little room for margin of error. Hey, if a guy can sleep at night doing this, then I guess who am I to judge. I'm done ranting.
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Post by paul3 on Nov 27, 2006 16:16:07 GMT -5
NICE SHOT!!!
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Post by hunter480 on Nov 27, 2006 16:45:37 GMT -5
I couldn't help but notice that you didn't comment on the individual who shot a deer while running at 100 yards which in my opinion is a much more dangerous shot that a deer at 175 that is standing (http://huntingindiana.proboards52.com/index.cgi?board=deerhunting&action=display&thread=1164577683) Just curious as to why you didn't blast him as opposed to Bubba? I commented. Had to bite my tongue, but I'm pretty sure my feelings came across. I'm so tired of reading about and seeing first hand the poor shot selections, semi-auto rapid fire, running shots, head shots, neck shots, and all the other questionable garbage that goes on. Not just on here, but other sites as well. I could rant all day about this and related topics. Again, coo-dos to an accurate long range shot with little room for margin of error. Hey, if a guy can sleep at night doing this, then I guess who am I to judge. I'm done ranting. It`s just "funny" how you find out what some folks are made of. Not that it makes people "bad" people in your mind, but you just know you wouldn`t share a deer camp, a tree stand, or even a 100 acre hunting spot with that person. To each his own-and just be glad you know what someone is about BEFORE you wind up in the field with them.
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Post by pigeonflier on Nov 27, 2006 17:00:58 GMT -5
I met this psycho deer killer at 4 AM in a toll road rest stop 1 morning last spring. We spent another 1 ½ driving to Toledo and then all day in my boat catching some daMn good EYES. Dont fool yourself and think he doesnt know his guns. If you look at the facts you will see he hit right where he was aiming.
GOOD SHOT YOU PSYCHO!!!!! I bet she eats better than a big ol buck
You are welcome in my boat anytime!!!
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Post by racktracker on Nov 27, 2006 17:07:32 GMT -5
I commented. Had to bite my tongue, but I'm pretty sure my feelings came across. I'm so tired of reading about and seeing first hand the poor shot selections, semi-auto rapid fire, running shots, head shots, neck shots, and all the other questionable garbage that goes on. Not just on here, but other sites as well. I could rant all day about this and related topics. Again, coo-dos to an accurate long range shot with little room for margin of error. Hey, if a guy can sleep at night doing this, then I guess who am I to judge. I'm done ranting. It`s just "funny" how you find out what some folks are made of. Not that it makes people "bad" people in your mind, but you just know you wouldn`t share a deer camp, a tree stand, or even a 100 acre hunting spot with that person. To each his own-and just be glad you know what someone is about BEFORE you wind up in the field with them. Just because he takes AND MAKES a shot that you think is "irresponsible and unethical"? Maybe it is to you because you dont want to take it or can't make that shot, but don't hold others to your standards of competency and ETHICS.
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Post by dec on Nov 27, 2006 17:20:55 GMT -5
Again, co-dos for an accurate long range shot.
I'm sorry, but there is just too much that can go wrong on that kind of a shot, or say a running shot. Can I make that shot ... maybe, maybe not. It is the maybe not part of that that will keep me from even thinking about it. I know my gun can do it, but my gun isn't pulling the trigger, I am and I'm human.
I'll give you an example of what I mean. Just before gun season opened, I was at full draw on a 150 class buck. He was at 35 yards looking right at me. I could have sent an arrow right through the front of his chest. But, I held off. Then he turned and walked, I tried everything I could to stop him, but he would not. I could have tried the walking shot. Now, I'm no Randy Ulmer, but I'll stand on the shooting line with my bow against anyone and hold my own. I can make a 35 yard shot dead nuts with my eyes closed at a target all day long. I could even shoot the lights out at 35 yards at a slow moving target. BUT a deer is not a range target. A deer can move any direction at any time and FAST. There is an unknown factor as to what can happen and could result in a wounded animal. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to risk it. I took a beating by friends (gun hunters) about how they could not believe how I did not take that shot. Some just don't get it. Now, you can call me the Ethics Police all you want, but I find it irresponsible for anyone to take such a shot. A long range head shot with a muzzleloader, shot gun, or rifle is no different. One last second move by the deer and you've got another wounded animal. Same with a bounding away deer that someone empties a gun on.
In my early days I took a running shot at a deer once. I got lucky. I've never taken a running shot since and I won't. I could have neck or head shot many deer, but good ethics tells my not to.
So I'll call a spade a spade when I see one. Good accurate long shot, co-dos to the shooter. Lucky is the way I look at it.
IMO, people need to use their heads before they pull the trigger.
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Post by steiny on Nov 27, 2006 18:30:58 GMT -5
Sheesh ! With a good rest, and if I knew the trajectory of the gun, I'd take that shot too. It's really not that hard of a shot for a competant rifleman who knows his equipment. My buddies in Missouri head shoot their late season does on a regular basis. Looks like a "no meat wasted" shot to me.
Better learn a bit about a man's shooting abilities and experience before you start preaching ethics.
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Post by buckeater on Nov 27, 2006 19:01:44 GMT -5
Sheesh ! With a good rest, and if I knew the trajectory of the gun, I'd take that shot too. It's really not that hard of a shot for a competant rifleman who knows his equipment. My buddies in Missouri head shoot their late season does on a regular basis. Looks like a "no meat wasted" shot to me. Better learn a bit about a man's shooting abilities and experience before you start preaching ethics. i agree. i dropped a coyote with my slug gun at 178 yards and my dad was there to witness it. and i have my encore dead on at 250 yards. if you got the range use it i think. the guys i hunted with in oklahoma shot encores and i seen one of them drop one at a little over 200 yards and the other guy i hunted with drop one at 300 yards. and they werent shot in the head or spine shot high in the shoulder. if you practice all the time and know how your gun shoots why not go the distance
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Post by hp on Nov 27, 2006 19:09:07 GMT -5
This is just unreal,,,,GREAT SHOOTING!!!!
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Post by lugnutz on Nov 27, 2006 20:44:39 GMT -5
Just curious, whats wrong with a melon shot?
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Post by semisneak on Nov 27, 2006 21:07:34 GMT -5
And yet another hijacked post. And some ask "whats up lately".
Nice shot .
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Post by lugnutz on Nov 27, 2006 21:53:14 GMT -5
And yet another hijacked post. And some ask "whats up lately". Nice shot . Suppose you've never had a discussion that got off topic eh?
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Post by semisneak on Nov 27, 2006 22:08:25 GMT -5
And yet another hijacked post. And some ask "whats up lately". Nice shot . Suppose you've never had a discussion that got off topic eh? No I havent...................Im perfect just like the other elitists on here.
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Post by lugnutz on Nov 27, 2006 22:10:25 GMT -5
Suppose you've never had a discussion that got off topic eh? No I havent...................Im perfect just like the other elitists on here. You too ?
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Post by hunter480 on Nov 27, 2006 22:41:51 GMT -5
Suppose you've never had a discussion that got off topic eh? No I havent...................Im perfect just like the other elitists on here. You`re an elitist if you disagree with something here?
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Post by Decatur on Nov 28, 2006 7:41:19 GMT -5
Hunter480, while I don't necessarily agree with you on this post, mainly because we don't know his shooting abilities, I do admire your guts to stick with what you believe, and I would defend your right to believe them, whether I disagree or not. :)Furthermore, is this forum on it's way to self destruction? Calling each other elitists now if we disagree?? Come on!
Congrats Psycho!
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