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Post by parrothead on Mar 28, 2007 7:49:42 GMT -5
Anyone know where I can get some of this. It use to be called Poast. I spray the grasses in my clover plots with it. I have checked Rural King and places like that.
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Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Mar 28, 2007 7:58:51 GMT -5
have you tried the local co-op or feed and seed dealer?I would think they would have it if anyone..
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Post by parrothead on Mar 28, 2007 8:12:47 GMT -5
I went to the Jackson Co. Co-Op last night to get some Fert. for my plots and asked them and they didnt even know what I was talking about. I have seen it on the net but was trying to find it close.
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Post by pbr on Mar 28, 2007 8:22:55 GMT -5
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Post by danf on Mar 28, 2007 11:43:35 GMT -5
Go back to the co-op and ask for a grass-selective herbicide. If anyone there still doesn't know what you are talking about, suggest they get someone working there who does....
I'm certified applicator, and we use Fusilade II Turf and Ornamental here at work. I don't know what the cost is, but we've been using the same bottle for the last two years. It's not a heavily-used product for us. I don't believe it to be a 'restricted use' pesticide, and I don't see any notation of such on the label. Fusilade does require a non-ionic surfactant additive, which should be available just about anywhere (co-op, TSC, Rural King).
Even if the co-op doesn't have it in stock, they should at the very least be able to order it for you. The co-ops here order from Cisco in Indianapolis, which is a fairly big supplier for my industry.
Good luck. If you need help with anything else, let me know.
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Post by parrothead on Mar 28, 2007 11:52:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the help guys.
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Post by huxbux on Mar 28, 2007 12:19:37 GMT -5
I use a product called Arrest that is sold by Imperial Whitetail Institute. The co-op here in Pendleton only sold the Poast in quantities I didn't need since I only have 1/4 acre plot. Since they carry Imperial Whitetail Institute products, it was no problem ordering it for me. I used it last summer and it worked very well.
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Post by parrothead on Mar 28, 2007 14:21:19 GMT -5
Yes it really works well along with Slay, but it is pricey. That is probably the size of my plot.
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Post by parrothead on Apr 2, 2007 13:46:47 GMT -5
I also found some 24-DB that will kill broad leaf plants in clover on e-bay
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Post by danf on Apr 2, 2007 20:27:58 GMT -5
I'd be a little leary about using any formulation of 2,4-D on anything in clover. MAKE SURE YOU READ THE LABEL!! Especially if someone on e-Bay is claiming it'll do the trick.... While I'm far from a forage expert (and don't know anything about a -DB formulation), I'd expect marginal results at best with some clover dieback...
If you need the label, and know what the brand name is, there are places on the net where you can find them. Let me know if you need the links, I can post them while I'm at work.
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Post by hornharvester on Apr 3, 2007 0:03:41 GMT -5
2-4-D is a broadleaf killer used in wheat, oats and any where you want grass to survive. If you use in clover, the clover is gone. h.h.
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Post by parrothead on Apr 3, 2007 7:20:43 GMT -5
Yes, I that is true guys. If you buy it, has to have the B. 24-DB. It is like the stuff sold from the WI
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Post by parrothead on Apr 3, 2007 7:25:28 GMT -5
It is called Butyrac 200. It is one E-bay.
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Post by danf on Apr 3, 2007 20:33:05 GMT -5
Looked up the label for that. For some reason I can't copy and paste from the label to here, but pay attention to the second page of the label ("General Information") where it talks about using spray equipment that has been used for regular 2,4-D, and three paragraphs below that one where it talks about crop response varying.
Page 5 is where you will find the info you need on mixing and application rates....
Good luck with it. IIRC, the maintenance crew at one of my previous jobs tried something like this (not sure what it was exactly) to try to control weeds in ground cover. Think our cost was ~$130/QUART (!) and it didn't work worth a darn. Hope you have better luck.
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Post by parrothead on Apr 4, 2007 6:06:01 GMT -5
I have used regular 24-db before that I got from a farm store. I use different sprayers for each of the sprays I use. I just spot spray so I use the little 3 gallon ones.
Did it have the rates to use per gallon I hope.
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Post by parrothead on Apr 4, 2007 7:02:10 GMT -5
I looked it up and it said 1-3 quarts per acre. How could I figure out what that is per gallon?
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Post by danf on Apr 4, 2007 11:55:23 GMT -5
How big is your plot?
It's all in calibration... You could mix 3 quarts in a gallon of water and spray that on an acre if your spray rig was calibrated right. However, to do that would require such a fine mist that it's just not practical.
1 quart is 32 ounces, 3 quarts is 96. 96 ounces per acre= 96/43560= .0022038 ounces per square foot at the high end of the range. The low end is .0007346 ounces psf. So if your food plot is 1000 sf, you need to use between .7346 ounces and 2.2038 ounces of concentrate in your sprayer.
I know that doesn't tell you what the mixing rate is, but if your plot is small enough, lean towards the lighter end of the range, put in that amount of concentrate, top off your tank and spray the plot until your tank is empty, ensuring even coverage.
HTH.
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Post by parrothead on Apr 4, 2007 13:12:12 GMT -5
After starting to read that I feel like Joey on Friends OH you lost me.
Remember Danf I am just a 5th grade teacher. So low end could I use one ounce per gallon?
I know on of the things from the Whitetail Instit. is 1/3 oz. per gallon and I forget what the other one is.
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Post by danf on Apr 4, 2007 15:43:29 GMT -5
No.
How big is your plot? How big is your sprayer?
As an example- If your plot was 1000 square feet, and you had a 3 gallon sprayer: on the lower end, put an ounce of concentrate in your sprayer, and three gallons of water. Then spray the entire plot with the 3 gallons (plus the ounce).
Again, as an example- If your plot was 1000 square feet, and you had a 30 gallon ATV sprayer, on the lower end you'd put in an ounce of concentrate and 20-30 gallons (probably too much water really, but this is an example...) of water. You would then spray that entire tankfull on the plot. Essentially you'd be driving around in circles until it was all gone.
They don't give mixing rates due to variances in application rates. Remember this stuff is meant for soybean fields that are several hundred acres.
Tell me how big your plot is and I'll show you the math to figure it out.
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Post by parrothead on Apr 5, 2007 6:18:29 GMT -5
My plot is in the shape of a D The back bone of the D I would say is 50 yards and the widest part of the curved part is 30 yards. I call the guy yesterday. His web site it Keystone Pest Solutions. I asked about GrassGetter. and he said it was a knock off for Poast Plus which he said is still made. THere is stuff called Trigger he said that he sells more of than anything for food plot grasses. I also have used Pursuit for broadleaf leaves he said that was the best better than Butyrac but it is 519 per gallon and that is the smallest size.
Thanks
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