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Post by bill on Nov 29, 2006 16:07:45 GMT -5
First , why do I need to login to view these threads? I must say I am not happy with my hunting ground this year. I plan on putting in some food plots for next year in hopes of at least seeing more deer. I think I want to plow , till , lime and plant clover this spring and then add Brassicas or oats in the fall near the clover. I had a plot two years ago and cattle got through the fence and ate everything in about three weeks. They kept busting down the fence. I am ready to try again. There is a man in Michigan that puts in a lot of time researching plots. His name is Ed Spinazzola. I might get one of his books. www.deerattraction.com/How many people put in plots and what and when do you plant? Bill
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 29, 2006 17:52:31 GMT -5
First , why do I need to login to view these threads?.... Cause old dummy me clicked a wrong buttion when I set the board up. It's fixed now. You will have to be logged in to post though. Thanks..
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Post by parrothead on Nov 30, 2006 13:56:03 GMT -5
Hey Bill,
I have a clover plot behind my house. Down in Madison there is 6 acres of alfalfa. Both are great. I would say the clover is best. But others will probably disagree. What part of the state are you in?
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Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Nov 30, 2006 14:03:59 GMT -5
Clover is great,I like to plant a variety of things(for spring and fall),plus try to improve as much as the natural browse as I can..The clover at your local feed store is just as good as the stuff with the big buck pic on the bag..
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Post by bill on Nov 30, 2006 16:39:16 GMT -5
The plots will be in Putnam Co.
I want Ladino clover. Not sure what variety.
In the fall I think I'll try some oats , BFO?
This season is still in and I am looking at 07.
Bill
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Post by danf on Dec 1, 2006 21:19:15 GMT -5
Bill- I have some plans for my plot.
If you dig up my thread on "My recipe for a food plot", you'll see what I've done this year.
Next year, I'm planning on dividing my total area into three sections. One section will have dent corn and possibly soybeans planted, another will have a perennial mix sowed (chicory, rape, clover), and the third area will be for a fall planted annual mix (oats, turnips, peas, etc).
Don't worry about buying anything with a brand name. The oats I planted this year I bought from the feed mill in Bainbridge. $7 for 50 pounds. BFO cost me $26 for the same amount last year. Same stuff, came up just as well this year. The other seed I got from either work or the co-op.
My thought is to give as many options in one place as possible. My woods are such a small percentage of the total wooded area (3-4 acres of 300-400 contiguous), that I want to try to create a "candy" area inside of the "grocery" area to try to hold the deer there.
One thing I have noticed in the last few weeks is that the chicory that has remained from last season is nibbled almost all the way down. There's nothing left but stubble. I will definately be planting more of it in the spring, even though it is on the expensive side (IIRC, around $9/lb).
HTH.
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Post by bill on Dec 5, 2006 9:55:34 GMT -5
Dan have you ever looked at Seedland? www.huntland.com/deerfeed/index.htmlHow did your Chicory do? I might try to mix this with clover. Also I read your recipe post did you check your ph and lime? Bill
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Post by danf on Dec 5, 2006 20:58:51 GMT -5
Your link doesn't work for some reason. No, I haven't ever looked at it though. My chicory was remnants of what I planted last year. There really wasn't a lot that was sowed to begin with, and probably less that survived through this season. After seeing how it has been mowed down, I'll definately be planting more of it next spring. The only downside to clover, alfalfa, chicory, rape, etc, is that it will need to be mowed 2-3 times per season. If it's in an area that can be accessed by a baler (and it's a big enough plot), you might find someone to bale it for you. Otherwise you will need to mow it off somehow. I figure that my future "perennial" plot will need to be plowed under and moved/re-planted every 3-5 years or so. I did not test the pH or spread lime. I was pressed for time, and was (and still am) trying to do this plot as cheaply as possible. I did spread a little 12-12-12 fertilizer after germination though. One other thing that I have realized recently that I wish I had done was to make the plot into the shape of an "L". If you plan on hunting over the plot, try do make it into that shape if at all possible. Doing so will allow you to hunt it in almost any wind by sitting/placing stands in various locations. At least it would in my case.
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Post by bill on Dec 6, 2006 7:49:03 GMT -5
www.seedland.com/Dan Try this link. I don't know if the prices are good , but there is a lot of information. Bill
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Post by mbogo on Dec 8, 2006 11:35:03 GMT -5
I'll second that. My father and I planted a clover/chicory mix and the deer ate it down to the point it probably won't recover. It seemed like the chicory was the first to be eaten.
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Post by bill on Dec 8, 2006 12:46:33 GMT -5
Mbogo
Did you mix the clover and chicory? How many years has this plot lasted. Also how do you control the weeds?
Bill
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Post by mbogo on Dec 12, 2006 11:04:22 GMT -5
Yes, we mixed the clover and chicory together. Normally we plant a mixture of clover and wheat and the clover usually lasts a couple of years. This is the first time we have ever planted chicory and I doubt that what we planted will survive the deer damage this year. We are going to plant it in the spring this year instead of the fall like last year to see if it survives the heavy grazing better next fall.
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