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Post by bsutravis on Mar 9, 2006 8:35:28 GMT -5
This is an odd request... but I am looking for a canoe that is TRASHED. I mean, something that no longer is worthy of floating....holes in it are fine, jaws ate one side is fine.... It's for a project I'm wanting to do. Growing up back in Hendrick's county there was an old canoe 1/2 buried into the sand along White Lick Creek....something like that is exactly what I am looking for (but that one is now gone...) Does anyone know of anything washed up along a river or does anyone have anything like that they are wanting to get rid of???
If not, keep your eyes out for me while Spring fishing the creeks and rivers. I appreciate it!
Thanks...
Travis
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Post by jcceadotcom on Mar 9, 2006 19:02:25 GMT -5
Travis,
Where along White Lick was this canoe? I used to live outside of Brownsburg in Southridge addition and spent a fair amount of time fishing White Lick from the bridge on tilden road to north of the trestle.
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Post by bsutravis on Mar 9, 2006 19:18:57 GMT -5
Hey there....that's cool that we fished the same 'crik! It was just North of the "new" 10th Street bridge, probably 300 yards or so. I did a walk along the shore last year and didn't see it....so it either got swallowed up or washed away.
We fished primarily from that spot (North of 10th) down past US 36, under the Haunted Bridge and then to the AJAA Baseball Diamonds. Some incredible smallmouth fishing along that creek. I haven't fished it in years....but back in the 80's it was outstanding! Doesn't look like it has the same flow level as it did back then....for sure it was much more "remote" than it is now.
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Post by jcceadotcom on Mar 9, 2006 19:50:26 GMT -5
You're right about the smallmouth fishing and the flow. I would venture a guess that all the new retention ponds are effecting the flow. There werent nearly the number of retention ponds 25 years ago.
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Post by bsutravis on Mar 10, 2006 8:47:30 GMT -5
You've got it....retention ponds and subdivisions instead of bean fields and woods. Totally stinks around that area now. So sad.... I remember when someone in Avon either went North to Brownsburg to shop at the K-Mart, or South to Plainfield for the Wal-Mart. Just a few more choices now, which isn't always a good thing. We use to be able to ride our bikes down 267 and go to Galyans in Plainfield.....ah, those were the days!
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Post by duff on Mar 10, 2006 10:37:59 GMT -5
Add to it ditches that get the water in and out in a hurry. Results are higher flows during floods and lower flow during dry weather. It is happening all over the state. No sponge effect, where water is released at a more sustained flow.
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Post by jcceadotcom on Mar 10, 2006 11:27:43 GMT -5
Your right Duff. Muscatatuck River used to be clear enough to see the bottom. Granted this was a hundred or so years ago. Now, with all the Ag runoff and the removal of all the log jams it rarely runs clear.
This week is a perfect example, we had a lot of rain down here and the river flooded some low areas. However, I'll bet it's back in its banks today. Before the advent of storm drains and the removal of the log jams it would have taken days, or in extreme events weeks, for the river to come up and go back down.
What results is the water rockets down river scouring of the river banks and bottom. This in turn removes cover and spawning areas. If a flood comes during the spawn, eggs are washed away resulting in lower fish populations. Also gone are the swamps and marshy areas that were prime habitat for minnows and herps.
Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now. If you hadn't guessed this is a sore spot for me.
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Post by duff on Mar 10, 2006 11:47:52 GMT -5
Take a look at some creeks in MI. They can have major rains up there and the creek might rise a few inches and still be clear. In Indiana it takes a consistent rain of moderate amounts to cause the creeks to get muddy and any heavy rain will send the flow skyrocketing. That is why we have record floods and record low flows.
Engineering at it's best. Drain as much water as we can as fast as we can do it.
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Post by jcceadotcom on Mar 10, 2006 13:07:07 GMT -5
Duff I used to fish some of the creeks around Goodrich and Atlas Michigan. Again, your correct.
I can only remember a couple of times in 5 years those creeks were muddy. In all fairness there is a big difference in the soil. However, there is also a HUGE difference in management and conservation practices.
Granted, Indiana isn't the sportsman's paradise Michigan is, but that isn't a reason to ignore our resources.
OOPS caught myself climbing back up on the soapbox.
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Post by duff on Mar 10, 2006 19:46:02 GMT -5
I agree 100% with you. Difference between clay based soils and sand is huge. But anyways, the result of more natural watershed plays a major role in the effects of rainfall and flow of our streams.
Don't worry about soapboxes, we all stand on them while on the internet!!!
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Post by jcceadotcom on Mar 11, 2006 4:48:20 GMT -5
Don't worry about soapboxes, we all stand on them while on the internet!!! Funny how that works! |
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 11, 2006 6:29:12 GMT -5
Don't worry about soapboxes, we all stand on them while on the internet!!! Funny how that works! Then some like to play a varation of King of the Mountain and be King of the Soap Box.. Trying to push others off the soapbox so we can climb on. Maybe we just need a bigger Soap Box so we can all get on at the same time?  |
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Post by steiny on Mar 12, 2006 18:43:03 GMT -5
You guys are on the mark regarding the quality of wate rin our rivers & streams.
Modern farming practices are mostly to blame, in my opinion. A farmer should not be allowed to drain field tiles, farm ditches, etc. directly into a stream. They should drain into a settlement pond, let the settlement pond collect all the silt, then outlet gradually into the watershed.
The Eel river in my area used to be awesome smallmouth and rock bass fishing. Smallmouth is still O.K., but rock bass are virtually non existent. As a kid, I remeber you'd see where they spawned in the gravel beds in shallow areas of the river. Now those gravel beds hardly exist, they are all mud and silt.
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Post by turkeyscout on Mar 16, 2006 21:03:43 GMT -5
hey steiny and guys, in the white river west fork," silt " is the # 1 pollutant in the river from run offs, not good spawning areas for smallmouth bass, we need more "green spaces" along our waterways!! we also need to get rid of our c.s.o."s (combine sewer overflows) which allows raw sewage to bypass the treatment plants and go straight to the river, when the rivers are flooded, like right now!! turkey scout
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Post by Indyhunter on Mar 16, 2006 22:33:16 GMT -5
The Eel river in my area used to be awesome smallmouth and rock bass fishing. Not sure what area your talking about. But anytime i've ever been at the Eel it looks more like chocolate milk than water. I've never seen it even halfway clear. I don't think you could see the bottom if the water was only a foot deep. The area i've noticed it is Clay County. |
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Post by duff on Mar 17, 2006 14:57:46 GMT -5
There are 2 eel rivers(at least). ONe in western Indiana the other near Logansport. 2 different rivers
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Post by hoosiermatt on Apr 6, 2006 9:31:34 GMT -5
If you guys are into Smallies you might want to check out the following site: www.indianasmallmouth.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.plWhen you post reports they don't like naming specific locations, so read the sticky in the reports section. But you always PM members for locations. There is also a conservation group aimed towards smallies that is connected to this site as well. |
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