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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 7, 2006 19:23:39 GMT -5
House Bill 1066 Provides that a person who, between Oct. 1 and Jan. 15, shines a spotlight, searchlight, or other artificial light for the purpose of locating a wild animal commits a Class C Infraction. Requires the court to revoke a person's hunting, fishing, and trapping licenses for 2 years if person commits a second violation of statute. www.in.gov/legislative/bills/2006/IN/IN1066.1.html |
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Post by duster on Jan 8, 2006 9:49:54 GMT -5
Sounds like if this passed there would be no more tracking that big buck after dark no matter how good a bloodtrail you had from that just at dark shot. Also no more coon hunting.
Upon futher review it states exceptions may be allowed. Might help with poaching problems if limited to not being allowed to shine from a vehicle but not while afield on foot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2006 11:25:35 GMT -5
Ky. doesn't allow "shinning" and it hasn't effected tracking at night or coon hunting.
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Post by indianagooseman on Jan 8, 2006 12:06:21 GMT -5
Even though I don't use shining as a method for scouting myself I think that's a load of crap, shining doesent hurt a thing and if a poacher wants to poach he'll do it rather or not shining is leagal!
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Post by gobblerstopper on Jan 8, 2006 13:49:40 GMT -5
What if the person isn't a hunter? I know a couple of people that like to just take their kids out looking at deer.
I agree indianagooseman, I think it is a big load of crap politely put.
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Post by jkd on Jan 9, 2006 14:51:16 GMT -5
Any of you been hunting your own property in a woods edge at sunset+15 about 150 yards from a road and had someone shine you...? If so, what goes through your mind at that moment... (gee... hope this spotlighter doesn't think I'm a deer and start shooting...)
So much for "doesn't hurt anything..."
I had it happen twice just this season, and started carrying a small flashlight to signal the guy on the road that I'm not a deer!
If you want to spot your own ground for scouting purposes, that's fine with me... I just get tired of guys lighting up my ground when they're never going to have permission to hunt, and running the risk of getting shot by some dumba$$ who's potentially looking to poach deer... this bill restricts to the landowner/leasee and those who have permission...
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 9, 2006 15:49:10 GMT -5
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Post by duff on Jan 9, 2006 16:40:29 GMT -5
JKD you really think that will stop you from getting shot? I would rather someone light me up with a Qbeam then a .22 or what ever their choice of weapon is when poachin and shooting at the large dark mass in the corn field!
This would rank up with some of the BS gun control "laws"!
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Post by genehopkins on Jan 9, 2006 19:53:50 GMT -5
another bill that was brought up without any recent input from the major state hunting orgs. As written, it could be interpreted as even outlawing coon hunting. Again, this is probably not the intent of the author. As many of us know, legislation is often written with one intent, and ends up written totally differently. Until more research has been completed, we really can't say what the author's intention is. Obviously, the bill is not good as it is written.
In the meantime, a good healthy (and respectful) debate over spotlighting for deer during the months that the antlers are hard (to stop poaching of antlered bucks) would be good input for everyone. In year's past this debate has been made and some supported it and some didn't. What do you all think?
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 9, 2006 20:08:31 GMT -5
Thanks Gene.
I think that this takes care of the coon hunters..
(b) A person may not take any wildlife, except furbearing mammals, with the aid of illumination of any spotlight, searchlight, or other artificial light.
I find very few deer hunters that are against "shining deer" for recreation/scouting. I haven't done it for awhile, but I used to enjoy it a lot.
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Post by trapperdave on Jan 9, 2006 22:16:59 GMT -5
If ya really want to get away with poaching, all ya need is night vision I'd say 95% of spotlighters are legal
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 9, 2006 22:40:05 GMT -5
If ya really want to get away with poaching, all ya need is night vision I'd say 95% of spotlighters are legal Oh, you have a point there. I don't see any regulations against them.. |
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Post by gobblerstopper on Jan 9, 2006 22:45:28 GMT -5
Any of you been hunting your own property in a woods edge at sunset+15 about 150 yards from a road and had someone shine you...? If so, what goes through your mind at that moment... (gee... hope this spotlighter doesn't think I'm a deer and start shooting...) Yes. I've had that happen. Might as well punish the people that spotlight legally, since there are some people that do shoot deer using a spotlight. Then all they will have left is their headlights. |
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Post by duff on Jan 11, 2006 22:54:33 GMT -5
Wait a gosh darn minute, if we want to ban poaching, we need to make it illegal to have a weapon while spotlighting. Oh yea it is already a law! Well lets ban guns, without guns we won't have any poaching!
Sound good, Ididn't think so!
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Post by hornzilla on Jan 11, 2006 23:52:07 GMT -5
I think it a bunch of B.S.
And for anyone thats walking out after dark, THEY SHOULD HAVE A LIGHT ON ANYWAY. If you look in the reg's, to coon hunt you must have a light on at all time, why is a deer hunter any different?
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 12, 2006 0:12:23 GMT -5
Some people are trying to spread a little mis-information out there.
They say this bill would stop coon hunting.
That is covered here..
(b) A person may not take any wildlife, except furbearing mammals, with the aid of illumination of any spotlight, searchlight, or other artificial light.
Now I certainly don't agree with this bill but usng false informaton is not the way to beat it.
Contact your reps.
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Post by bigballer on Jan 12, 2006 8:41:20 GMT -5
I agree with hornzilla.... You should always have a light on before and after dark when you are walking out. My dad taught me that when I was very young and I teach that to my brothers and I will teach that to my kids. I don't know if that's a law or not but it is a very good way to go with walking out and not worrying about someone shooting you. Even on your own property you don't know if there is no one there.
And Woody if it says you can hunt furbearing mammals aren't deer fur bearing mammals? I would think it would have to be more spacific then that.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 12, 2006 10:29:42 GMT -5
I agree with hornzilla.... You should always have a light on before and after dark when you are walking out. My dad taught me that when I was very young and I teach that to my brothers and I will teach that to my kids. I don't know if that's a law or not but it is a very good way to go with walking out and not worrying about someone shooting you. Even on your own property you don't know if there is no one there. I agree. Carry one of those little LED lights in red. It doesn't put out a whole lot of light but can be seen a LONG ways. IMO - I don't think deer would qualify as "fur bearing". Most "fur bearing" animals are the ones people take to make coats, trim, etc out of. The hair on a deer is much too brittle for any purpose like that. I knew a guy that thought a deer hide with hair would make an excellent throw rug. It looked pretty for awhile but every time someone walked on it some hairs broke off. It ended up looking like it had the mange. |
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Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Jan 20, 2006 11:42:14 GMT -5
I have to agree,this bill is a bunch of bull chips...I remember a couple years ago at the Deer and Turkey expo,the IDHA had a petention going on this spotlight law and among other things.I think I only saw a few no's on there counting mine for outlawing spotlighting during deer season.I wonder if JB knows anything about it?
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Post by bigballer on Jan 20, 2006 13:43:43 GMT -5
Don't know if I missed this but when is this going up for vote? Or has it allready passed? Man this would suck. I got my wife interested in hunting by taking her spot lighting and showing her the deer and everything.
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