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Post by hotshot on Oct 2, 2006 8:52:14 GMT -5
My 13 yr old had a buck walk up within perfect shooting distance, missed him, grabbed another arrow before the deer figured out what was going on, and hit him with a what appearred to be good liver shot. We found first blood, waited awhile, and tracked. after 150 yards of good blood, nothing. deer disappeared into a wooded area, circle after circle, hundreds of yards of walking with nothing but hopes. Crawling, backtracking, more circles, went home church and ate, went back, more circles, followed trails and more trails, crossed trails at 10 yard intervals, back and forth across the wooded area. more back tracking.
I for the life of me cannot figure out where that deer went.
This would have been my son's first deer with a bow.
He did everything right, even the shot looked good. The only thing I can think of is that he hit "the pocket" between the lungs and the spine- the area that is non lethal.
He never gave up. I was proud of his determination to find the deer. At times he out walked me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2006 9:37:00 GMT -5
The non-lethal "pocket" between the spine and lungs does not exist. Any shot that goes below the spine should catch part of at least one lung (unless it is too far back) because of the anatomy of the deer. There could be a non lethal one lung hit, or a non lethal hit in the pocket above the spine (which acutally sits about 2 1/2 inches below the top of the deer's back.
I hope you can still find the buck. Look in and around water.
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Post by dec on Oct 2, 2006 9:52:53 GMT -5
Hotsot -
I have that funeral this afternoon and the dinner this evening.
But, if you want I'd be willing to meet up with you Tuesday to help try and find the deer. I'm free all late afternoon and evening. The rain will have washed away all the blood and the meat won't be any good, but we might be able to save the cape and rack if we can find it. We could set up a grid and walk it.
Let me know, I'm more than willing to go help you. Shoot me a PM if you are interested.
Another thing you might do is take your lab out with you. Even if she's not trained on blood, their noses are a useful tool.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 2, 2006 10:06:24 GMT -5
If the deer is hit in the liver it will most assuredly die.
They do need some time to lay down, and die though. Pushing them will not work on a liver shot deer.
Grid search is about the only thing left to do. Be organized about it and don't just wander around looking.
If I lived closer I'd help you look.
GOOD LUCK..
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Post by hotshot on Oct 2, 2006 10:42:58 GMT -5
we gave it lots of time. the non lethal one lung theory is what I'm hoping for.
I truly don't think its dead. I would have found it. did a walk arond a small swamp thinking it would head there.
a local guy has blood dogs, I tried to get him most ofthe day, but he never answered.
Thanks Derrick for the offer. Scott
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Oct 2, 2006 11:18:41 GMT -5
Sorry man!
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Post by hornharvester on Oct 2, 2006 13:09:34 GMT -5
If you trail a deer and it goes over 100 yds or so and you are not sure of the shot...WAIT... for minimum of 4 hours before going on. If its a lethal hit the deer will soon lay down and usually they will not get up, unless you push them. Once they get up they will go a long way and most likely you will never find them.
Another thing is smell your arrow. If there is any bowl odor, wait at less 10-12 hours or over night. Gut shot deer will tend to go to the nearest water to drink. If you lose the blood trail then concentrate on the nearest pond or stream. Good luck in finding you deer. h.h.
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Post by hotshot on Oct 2, 2006 14:12:30 GMT -5
Yeah, we've looked and looked. the blood: dark red- liver, the shot upper one third of deer. No stomach material in any trail. Arrow- my son's bow is a 45 pound Jennings. He's accurate with it, but it does not have the power of a pass through. We never found the arrow either.
This was tough, and we're good trackers. checked all water sources in the vacinity.
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Post by hornharvester on Oct 2, 2006 14:56:39 GMT -5
Yeah, we've looked and looked. the blood: dark red- liver, the shot upper one third of deer. No stomach material in any trail. Arrow- my son's bow is a 45 pound Jennings. He's accurate with it, but it does not have the power of a pass through. We never found the arrow either. This was tough, and we're good trackers. checked all water sources in the vacinity. It bothers me to no end to lose a deer that i know will die. If you've made every effort to recover it and still cant find it then thats all you can do. This situation has happened to most all experienced bow hunters. If this bothers your son then it is a good thing because that means he is an ethical hunter. h.h. |
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