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Post by schoolmaster on Aug 21, 2005 7:45:17 GMT -5
Hoy many rattle, grunt, bleat to attract deer? How effective is it? I have a friend who has done one of these techniques several times with success. However I have rattled my brains out and have had no luck. What procedure do you use to get the deer to respond? I have watched the videos and they make it look easy. The deer I hunt are not that stupid! Any one have any suggestions as I would like to add calling deer to my bag of tricks.
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Post by 911 on Aug 21, 2005 9:14:33 GMT -5
Yes it does work i have done it successfully the last couple of years. I like to rattle the first week of November. I rattle for about 30 seconds to a minute and use a primos bleet can 3 or four times and then some grunting i do this sequence about every half hour. The last two bucks i have killed have come running right to my stand. Just experiment a liitle and see what happens.
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Post by steiny on Aug 21, 2005 10:43:52 GMT -5
When it works, you'll feel like a real genious. When it doesn't work, you'll wonder "Why in the heck am I making all this racket, and how many deer have I scared off?"
Works best if you have a spot where deer are fairly unpressured. Seems like it only works for me about one out of ten times, however over the years I've killed some bucks that came into my calling. That is pretty darned cool !
About the only time I do it now, is if I see a buck in the distance that looks like it isn't coming by me. Occasionally you can turn them your way with rattling or grunting. About the only advice I would give, is don't overdue it. Do it sparingly.
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Post by whitetail1 on Aug 21, 2005 17:08:56 GMT -5
It can definitely work, but it will not work every time. It is VERY cool when it does produce. When I rattle, I will do so for about 30 seconds and then hit my grunt call 3-4 times. I will wait for a minimum of 30 minutes before doing so again and usually about 45 minutes. I start using the rattle/grunt sequence during the pre-rut and sometimes again after the 1st rut. Good luck.
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Post by bigugly on Aug 21, 2005 20:34:24 GMT -5
I've found over the years that rattling produces best in the pre-rut to early rut stages after that I leave the rattle bag in my day pouch and hardly ever use it. I've called many deer in with a grunt tube.Most of the time they always seem to stop in the dirtiest spots and don't always get a shot but when it works it's wonderfull. I also use a bleat can. I think just the sound of a social deer will bring curious does in and if you bring in the does the bucks are never to far away. As for rattling you may want to try just tickling the tines together. I do this alot with a partner in front of me and he has got a couple of nice bucks doing this. It also comes down to confidence. This same buddy won't rattle as he fears scaring them away as he rattles to hard. I've told him this, he just can't seem to get the knack down and it works better if I do it anyway. Out of a gang of five we got four deer last year and everyone involved some sort of calling. As always watch the wind and be alert. Alot of deer get scared by over anxious callers. Do your calling and hold still, they can sneak up real quite like and have you pinpointed by your calling to begin with!
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 21, 2005 21:25:55 GMT -5
I haven't had much luck rattling, but I am a firm believer in using a grunt tube and a Primos Can.
This is my story a couple of years ago where The Can and a grunt tube paid off....Almost slept in this morning. It was warm – 61 degrees F at 4:00 am. Wind was blowing pretty good and rain was threatening. Halfway to my hunting spot the rain started up and I almost turned around and came back home. But it quit before I could find a turn around spot.. Got into my treestand about 5:30. The treestand is in a rather large pine tree located in a stand of large pines that leads back into some coalmine stripper pit spoil banks. A lot of our deer like to bed in those areas. As the pink light got brighter and brighter I am watching where the deer ‘normally’ come from and that is southwest. It is down through the pines and is fairly open. So I can see about 100 or more yards. Being able to see that far in advance I had my crossbow hung up on a hanger. I’ve got a Southerly wind in my face so I am not paying a whole lot of attention to behind me as that is the bedding area and the wind is wrong for anything to approach from that way. WRONG!!! I hear a noise and before I can ease around to see what it was a pretty decent buck walks right past me (10 yards) and into some thick stuff. I get my crossbow off the hanger and pull out my grunt tube. I grunted at him 7 or 8 times while he just kept right on walking right on out of sight. I then whipped out my Primos Can and turned it over a couple of times followed by a couple of grunts from the grunt tube. I then did a repeat on the Can and tube. Just when I was about to give up lo and behold the buck had turned around and was coming back. He walked right up to within 20 yards of me and stopped. He was looking everywhere for that buck and doe he had heard. Unfortunately where he stopped was a no shot area. Dogwood branches were all in the way of a shot. I had the Exomag up and ready for him to move. Finally he started walking again and as he hit a very small opening I went BAHH with my mouth. Unfortunately he took two more steps after I BAHHed and was behind stuff again. ARRGH!! He is looking and trying to smell the deer that grunted, wahhed and now bahhed at him. He stood there for at least 5 minutes surveying the scene. FINALLY he started walking again. He hit another opening at 17 yards and I BAHHed again. This time he stopped and looked back over his shoulder. It was beautiful quartering away shot. My aim was slightly back on him and basically aiming for an off shoulder exit hole. I popped trigger and the Exomag barked and the buck did a kick and did a race horse gallop out of there. I lost sight of him as he topped a small incline, but I heard a loud crack of a limb or stick breaking very shortly after loosing sight of him. I crossed my fingers and said a silent prayer that it was him falling. I called my son , who is on vacation this week, and had him come up for the trailing and dragging (hopefully) out. The trailing was fairly short of about 100 yards and he had piled up just about where I heard the stick/limb crack. The Wasp Hammer SST had done it's job well. He is a basic nine pointer (4 X 5) with a 1 ½ inch sticker off one brow tine. We aged him at 3 ½ and he tipped the scale at 178 field dressed. I should have known better about not watching all directions during pre-rut and rut. They can and sometimes do come from any and all directions. Even from down wind… 
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Post by jajwrigh on Aug 21, 2005 22:06:20 GMT -5
Nice buck!! ;D
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Post by mbogo on Aug 22, 2005 6:10:36 GMT -5
I have had a lot of luck with bleat calls throughout the season, on both bucks and does. I don't typically has as much success with grunt calls but when conditions are right they are hard to beat. I also tend to have better luck with certain brands of calls than others. As for rattling, I'm not sure what to make of the results. I have on occasion had bucks come in after rattling but I'm not entirely convinced that my rattling is what brought them in.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Aug 22, 2005 7:25:58 GMT -5
They all work as long as the weather conditions & timing are right for the calling you are doing. As mentioned above they are not going to work every time. Just like us, sometimes we have things to do & places to go that prevents us from being sidetracked at that particular time. But if we see, or hear something of interest to us we will usually swing back by & check it out when we have the time. Think back to the times you had the same buck show up a little while later downwind of your position.
deertracks
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Post by RiverJim on Aug 22, 2005 7:29:40 GMT -5
Primos can has brought them in for me but I can't say rattling has. Of course all the biggins seem to not be in the area to be dominat. I'll be tryin a differnt area this year.
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