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Post by span870 on Apr 25, 2024 13:13:01 GMT -5
Backstory.
Hunted this small piece of HNF by my house for years. No one else hunted it. Was a nice place to go for a quick hunt. Last year I went and set a stand up early October for bow. Next day I came back and there was a note on it. "You set your stand up 75 yards from mine. Thank you". Honestly had no idea that there was a stand there. Looked around and found a new ladder stand up. Not 100% sure it was there before me but I yanked my stand. Left a note apologizing and left my name and number. Told him to call me because I'd be hunting too and wanted to stay out of his way. Never got a phone call but I stayed away from his stand all year. Fast forward to today. Hunted that property and noticed his stand is still up and another about 75 yards away from that one. This is a small property, less than 30 acres. Couple questions. Who does this type of thing. Set up stands and think they can lock a property down year after year by leaving their stands up. You and I both know that I go on opening morning before him, he comes in and it'll be an issue. What would you guys do at this point? It's not the fact that someone is hunting it, it's the fact that they think it's okay no lock an area down year after year. It keeps getting worse and worse year after year with shows like "the hunting public". There was another guy that hunted it and we both stayed out of each other's way and never left stands up.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Apr 25, 2024 13:43:12 GMT -5
No one person owns any public land. Hunt it.
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Post by greghopper on Apr 25, 2024 13:54:07 GMT -5
And expect drama to follow…. Depending on the person it could lead to aggressive drama.
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Post by jjas on Apr 25, 2024 13:55:50 GMT -5
According to Indiana hunting regulations...
If the above is correct, I would call the DNR and ask them about the stands that are up during a time they aren't supposed to be.
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Post by span870 on Apr 25, 2024 14:46:57 GMT -5
According to Indiana hunting regulations... If the above is correct, I would call the DNR and ask them about the stands that are up during a time they aren't supposed to be. They were asked. The answer was they won't go out and remove the stands. |
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Post by span870 on Apr 25, 2024 14:48:02 GMT -5
And expect drama to follow…. Depending on the person it could lead to aggressive drama. This. So what's the solution? It's not just my situation. I see so many stands left in woods while I turkey hunt or run dogs all year long. |
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Post by omegahunter on Apr 25, 2024 15:13:16 GMT -5
According to Indiana hunting regulations... If the above is correct, I would call the DNR and ask them about the stands that are up during a time they aren't supposed to be. They were asked. The answer was they won't go out and remove the stands. You could try the Bedford HNF office. Can't remember the guy's name, but I had an email conversation with him about a 4 wheeler trail and a stand that was on HNF property. He even emailed me back later to thank me as they had run-ins with a neighboring property owner that was treating the HNF like it was his own back yard. The neighboring property owner got two tickets out of it. |
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Post by jager on Apr 25, 2024 15:56:43 GMT -5
I don’t know what the answer is, but unfortunately Greg is right! You really don’t know what people are capable of anymore. He didn’t contact you because he doesn’t want to work with you. He simply wants you to stop hunting there so he has his own “private ground” to hunt.
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Post by freedomhunter on Apr 25, 2024 16:30:32 GMT -5
I would catch him outside and go from there
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Post by esshup on Apr 25, 2024 20:58:21 GMT -5
It's just as much your property to hunt as his. Ran into the same thing hunting MFL lands in Wisconsin. The neighbor thought the MFL lands was his and his alone to hunt. Even stricter than HNF, all stands have to be removed at the end of the hunting day. He put up a ladder stand where my buddy has sat in the woods for 25 years. So my buddy didn't hunt that spot, I set up 200 yds away for the first 3 days of the season and the stand was never used.
Warden was called, he removed the stand.
I agree, call the office and report it and if it's still there in a week, call the local warden and report it. I am perfectly fine if everybody plays by the same rules, I am NOT fine if they don't. It's public property, not private, and we all own a piece of it.
Same with the park hunts. I figure it's first come gets the spot. I will gladly move if someone is there before me, but if I'm there and someone puts up a stand after mine is there, too bad, I'm hunting mine. I put flagging tape on mine so it's visible and lock it to the tree. So, they can't say "I didn't see it."
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Post by deadeer on Apr 25, 2024 22:27:23 GMT -5
It's just as much your property to hunt as his. Ran into the same thing hunting MFL lands in Wisconsin. The neighbor thought the MFL lands was his and his alone to hunt. Even stricter than HNF, all stands have to be removed at the end of the hunting day. He put up a ladder stand where my buddy has sat in the woods for 25 years. So my buddy didn't hunt that spot, I set up 200 yds away for the first 3 days of the season and the stand was never used. Warden was called, he removed the stand. I agree, call the office and report it and if it's still there in a week, call the local warden and report it. I am perfectly fine if everybody plays by the same rules, I am NOT fine if they don't. It's public property, not private, and we all own a piece of it. Same with the park hunts. I figure it's first come gets the spot. I will gladly move if someone is there before me, but if I'm there and someone puts up a stand after mine is there, too bad, I'm hunting mine. I put flagging tape on mine so it's visible and lock it to the tree. So, they can't say "I didn't see it." My last park hunt info letter said you now have to put your contact info on every piece of flagging tape you put out there. Could you imagine that? Lol. |
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Post by esshup on Apr 26, 2024 7:02:00 GMT -5
It's just as much your property to hunt as his. Ran into the same thing hunting MFL lands in Wisconsin. The neighbor thought the MFL lands was his and his alone to hunt. Even stricter than HNF, all stands have to be removed at the end of the hunting day. He put up a ladder stand where my buddy has sat in the woods for 25 years. So my buddy didn't hunt that spot, I set up 200 yds away for the first 3 days of the season and the stand was never used. Warden was called, he removed the stand. I agree, call the office and report it and if it's still there in a week, call the local warden and report it. I am perfectly fine if everybody plays by the same rules, I am NOT fine if they don't. It's public property, not private, and we all own a piece of it. Same with the park hunts. I figure it's first come gets the spot. I will gladly move if someone is there before me, but if I'm there and someone puts up a stand after mine is there, too bad, I'm hunting mine. I put flagging tape on mine so it's visible and lock it to the tree. So, they can't say "I didn't see it." My last park hunt info letter said you now have to put your contact info on every piece of flagging tape you put out there. Could you imagine that? Lol. That's so they can track you down when you don't remove it all after the hunt. I'll do that if I do a park hunt again. I'll use a gel pen. Not my problem if rain washes it off. As you know I yank all that stuff off the trees/branches when I yank the stand at the end of the hunt. |
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Post by duff on Apr 26, 2024 7:43:57 GMT -5
You are part Coon hunter...did you tell him that?
Don't mess with beagle hunters. Those dogs eat a lot
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Post by jman46151 on Apr 26, 2024 9:24:07 GMT -5
Backstory. Hunted this small piece of HNF by my house for years. No one else hunted it. Was a nice place to go for a quick hunt. Last year I went and set a stand up early October for bow. Next day I came back and there was a note on it. "You set your stand up 75 yards from mine. Thank you". Honestly had no idea that there was a stand there. Looked around and found a new ladder stand up. Not 100% sure it was there before me but I yanked my stand. Left a note apologizing and left my name and number. Told him to call me because I'd be hunting too and wanted to stay out of his way. Never got a phone call but I stayed away from his stand all year. Fast forward to today. Hunted that property and noticed his stand is still up and another about 75 yards away from that one. This is a small property, less than 30 acres. Couple questions. Who does this type of thing. Set up stands and think they can lock a property down year after year by leaving their stands up. You and I both know that I go on opening morning before him, he comes in and it'll be an issue. What would you guys do at this point? It's not the fact that someone is hunting it, it's the fact that they think it's okay no lock an area down year after year. It keeps getting worse and worse year after year with shows like "the hunting public". There was another guy that hunted it and we both stayed out of each other's way and never left stands up. Hunt it. I wonder if it's a neighboring landowner that views it as an extension of his property and doesn't want anyone else to hunt it. |
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Post by span870 on Apr 26, 2024 9:30:37 GMT -5
Backstory. Hunted this small piece of HNF by my house for years. No one else hunted it. Was a nice place to go for a quick hunt. Last year I went and set a stand up early October for bow. Next day I came back and there was a note on it. "You set your stand up 75 yards from mine. Thank you". Honestly had no idea that there was a stand there. Looked around and found a new ladder stand up. Not 100% sure it was there before me but I yanked my stand. Left a note apologizing and left my name and number. Told him to call me because I'd be hunting too and wanted to stay out of his way. Never got a phone call but I stayed away from his stand all year. Fast forward to today. Hunted that property and noticed his stand is still up and another about 75 yards away from that one. This is a small property, less than 30 acres. Couple questions. Who does this type of thing. Set up stands and think they can lock a property down year after year by leaving their stands up. You and I both know that I go on opening morning before him, he comes in and it'll be an issue. What would you guys do at this point? It's not the fact that someone is hunting it, it's the fact that they think it's okay no lock an area down year after year. It keeps getting worse and worse year after year with shows like "the hunting public". There was another guy that hunted it and we both stayed out of each other's way and never left stands up. Hunt it. I wonder if it's a neighboring landowner that views it as an extension of his property and doesn't want anyone else to hunt it. No. The neighbor property owner and me have hunted it for years. Never had an issue. My guess is it's a guy found it on Onx. Almost bet he's under 30 too |
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Post by budd on Apr 26, 2024 10:36:22 GMT -5
Not sure how the laws on public are there, but here if you put a stand on public ANYONE can hunt it on a 1st come bases. I've never ran into that issue, but I have added baits to people's deer stands and hunted bear out of them. Stands are to be removed after deer season but I can find a dz or more on a daily drive around here without getting off the improved roads.
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Post by omegahunter on Apr 26, 2024 13:35:03 GMT -5
Not sure how the laws on public are there, but here if you put a stand on public ANYONE can hunt it on a 1st come bases. I've never ran into that issue, but I have added baits to people's deer stands and hunted bear out of them. Stands are to be removed after deer season but I can find a dz or more on a daily drive around here without getting off the improved roads. Prosecutable as criminal conversion in Indiana to take over another's personal property without their permission. |
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Post by jjas on Apr 26, 2024 13:55:44 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I don't see any good way of dealing with this issue based on the suggestions I've read here.
Here's hoping the hunter moves on next year.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Apr 27, 2024 15:49:03 GMT -5
Tough call, I lost a pretty good spot to an OnX user. Kind of the same deal, easy to get to after work, nice funnel area. The best place to be is where others are unwilling or unable to get to. That, however, doesn't make for an easy after work/just down the road hunting spot.
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Post by mattfinney on Apr 29, 2024 4:43:56 GMT -5
First mistake was apologizing. Anyone can put up stands anywhere on public. It was extremely rude and disrespectful for the other guy to leave you that note unless his only intention was to coordinate with you so you aren't messing up each others hunts. If you want to continue to hunt that spot, try to get in touch with the fellow by telephone, explain that you will also be hunting that spot. Explain that you guys can simply text one another when you plan to hunt. I wouldn't leave any trail cams or treestands, hunt mobile if you can. Or just walk away.
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