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Post by beermaker on Nov 6, 2023 6:03:17 GMT -5
Anti-black talk is automatically labeled racist.
Anti-gay/trans talk is automatically labeled hate speech.
Anti-Israel/Jew talk is automatically labeled free speech.
The media and much of our society is so morally corrupted that I don't know if there is a way back to sensible conduct and conversation.
"Your profession is one or two steps above prostitution." Bob Knight to a young reporter many years ago. I've never realized how true those words are until the last few years.
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Post by astronankin on Nov 6, 2023 7:50:57 GMT -5
I've sure noticed. Doesn't matter if you are white, black, Hispanic, or Asian, if you say something that goes against "their" ideals, you get labeled as a racist, white supremacist, Christian nationalist, trans/gay hater, etc, etc. But the joke's on them. This is coming fr the same party that founder and supported the Ku Klux Klan, the same party founded by Martin van Buren in an attempt to put a party in power in the White House in order to bring some peace between slave and non-slave states by supporting slavery and allowing the slave states to essentially do their own thing. This is also the same party who in the South during Reparations would send members to voting places, members who targeted and physically bullied voting blacks into voting for the Democrat party. Now look at what they do today. They appear to have done a complete 180°, now people who are white, etc, etc, are their targets. What remains to be seen is if this is now their true face or not. Time will tell.
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Post by deadeer on Nov 6, 2023 8:10:33 GMT -5
That's why we gave up on the news. They are infested with this crap. If we need to check something, we look it up online, and that's not always safe, but at least you can tailor to suit your taste buds better.
We have started living in our own little bubble again, the way it used to be. We quit worrying about what everybody else is doing, and realize there was nothing we could do about it anyway. Life is so much better now.
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Post by Huntnfreak on Nov 6, 2023 8:40:16 GMT -5
That's why we gave up on the news. They are infested with this crap. If we need to check something, we look it up online, and that's not always safe, but at least you can tailor to suit your taste buds better. We have started living in our own little bubble again, the way it used to be. We quit worrying about what everybody else is doing, and realize there was nothing we could do about it anyway. Life is so much better now. Same here…my circle of people is a dot!! Just the way I want it!
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Post by astronankin on Nov 6, 2023 9:42:57 GMT -5
I suggest reading the Epoch Times. It's excellent reporting from a true neutral stance. They really do delve into the truth. Go read some of their articles, you'll be surprised at how deep they will get into research.
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Post by esshup on Nov 6, 2023 11:36:39 GMT -5
Anti-black talk is automatically labeled racist.
Anti-gay/trans talk is automatically labeled hate speech. Anti-Israel/Jew talk is automatically labeled free speech. The media and much of our society is so morally corrupted that I don't know if there is a way back to sensible conduct and conversation. "Your profession is one or two steps above prostitution." Bob Knight to a young reporter many years ago. I've never realized how true those words are until the last few years. That depends. If you are black, calling someone the N word is not considered racist. But if you aren't black? Whoo Boy!! I don't understand why there isn't being a bigger deal being made of the initial Hamas act against Israel, with them kidnapping and killing civilians. Why isn't that continually brought up? Persnally I think Netanyahu is correct when people are saying that there should be a cease fire. His telling them to kiss off and there won't be a cease fire until the kidnapped people are returned is the correct response. Also telling the media that if Hamas continues to use civilians to hide, then the civilians better get the heck out of the way or they will be collateral damage. The hospitals knew that tunnels were being dug under the hospital. What did they thing would happen? Remember, Israel declared war on Hamas, that was the smart thing to do because there are different rules for a police skirmish and a war. If someone says that "Well, even during war civilians aren't supposed to be targeted." Tell that to Hamas when they first entered Israel and violated Common Article 3. Why should Israel play by a different set of rules than Hamas? If my family and friends were targeted you better believe that I'd take steps to ensure that nobody in the future would even think about doing it again because of the amount of hell that I'd rain down on them.
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Post by stevein on Nov 6, 2023 13:21:00 GMT -5
Why are the people of the state of Israel labeled Jews and the Hamas members not labeled Islamist?
The modern news seems to want to label everyone that do not fit their agenda.
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Post by esshup on Nov 6, 2023 13:22:14 GMT -5
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Post by wsky70 on Nov 6, 2023 18:35:18 GMT -5
Yes, anything you say against that group, then you are labeled whatever it is....Long gone the day you disagree with someone on the other side and it's just a disagreement. Now they can't be wrong in any way, but you are if you say something, has gotten way out of hand. I've always said, we will have another civil war right here again one day. May be sooner than I thought though...SF Woody
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Post by drfleck on Nov 6, 2023 18:58:07 GMT -5
Gotta keep everyone divided and hating each other.
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Post by welder on Nov 6, 2023 19:15:59 GMT -5
Throughout my childhood, my parents were "news hounds" every evening,6 o'clock local news,6:30 national news, Today Show before getting on the bus. In the days of Walter Cronkite, John Chancellor and Tom Brokaw, NOBODY that I was aware of ever questioned anything they said. Until the term "fake news" started being used,I guess I never really considered not believing what they were saying. I think they were telling the truth, but now all you can really do is listen to several different people and try to piece together what you think is actually happening.
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Post by duff on Nov 6, 2023 20:14:40 GMT -5
Just watched an episode of jfk on hulu. 1st 5 min they show riots, political assassinations, divided country.
I kinda laughed and told my wife, "and we think current times are a mess". I know a few of you lived through the 60s, I am not sure how you guys compare. I know Dad talks about being mobilized to Chicago as a national guardsmen during the riots.
I don't watch news anymore and really don't deal with much politics besides meaningless banter. Hardliners and blind faith based on a political party are hard for me to understand. I do understand they are the most vocal and all sides use it to their advantages.
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Post by jman46151 on Nov 7, 2023 13:10:58 GMT -5
Gotta keep everyone divided and hating each other. Most true statement in this thread. This is the easiest way to stay relevant and make money for the media and politicians.
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Post by 36fan on Nov 10, 2023 19:32:46 GMT -5
I guess I'm just an equal opportunity offender. 🤷♂️
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