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Post by HighCotton on Oct 16, 2023 16:36:10 GMT -5
My wife and I had the opportunity to attend a taco bar and some good fellowship with a bunch of friends recently, most from our church. Eventually, the topic turned to politics. Surprisingly, I found that two couples had voted for Biden. I’ve known these people for years and frankly, I was half shocked! Both husbands pack heat. Matter of fact they were carrying while we were meeting. Topping that, all four emphatically proclaim to be pro life. I finally had to speak up. I asked them how, in God’s name, knowing their belief system, could they have voted for Biden. The husbands virtually said nothing. And the only response I could get from the wives was, “I just don’t like Trump’s attitude!” And “No way I could vote for Donald Trump-He’s such a meanie!”
I mean talk about airheaded! Like, no substance at all to their thought process, IMO!
Thoughts? Feedback?
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Oct 16, 2023 18:12:53 GMT -5
And that’s the issue with how the majority vote any more. Not about what they actually believe, they just don’t like the person even if they are the better candidate. I mean, he’s a meanie, really.
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Post by duff on Oct 16, 2023 18:15:40 GMT -5
Even in Indiana 4 of 10 folks probably voted for Biden or against Trump. So it is likely we deal with someone daily that didn't vote your way.
His ambiance pushed people away as much as it attracted.
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Post by duff on Oct 16, 2023 18:20:15 GMT -5
And some folks just don't like to discuss politics. It is a personal choice just like the wages you make or the prayers you say.
I really don't think much good comes out of discussing politics. Isn't there a saying?
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Oct 16, 2023 18:21:34 GMT -5
And some folks just don't like to discuss politics. It is a personal choice just like the wages you make or the prayers you say. I really don't think much good comes out of discussing politics. Isn't there a saying? That’s exactly right. Most times if it comes up and I’m around I just get away, because no good can come if it. You do you and I’ll be me.
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Post by joebuck on Oct 16, 2023 23:48:15 GMT -5
...but its so much harder when its family. My brother took a hard left turn a couple years back; its really hard to talk to him anymore. The times when politics comes up follows this pattern: he makes outlandish statement; i bring receipts, present facts, make logical statements to refute his position; he retreats to feelings and "the way the world SHOULD be!"; gets mad at me for a week or 2; we start talking again about something innocuous. He has his worldview, and theres nothing i can say or do, no proof that i can show him that will alter it. If i said trump had a scientific commission report on on the color of the sky, he'd bring up 15 reasons why the report was wrong. And he has the same opinion of me - he doesnt see how i could possibly be a conservative, having grown up in a solidly Dem home. He hasn't actually SAID it, but he probably thinks i'm some deep down top secret racist...which is a real joke, considering my wife is Black.
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Post by beermaker on Oct 17, 2023 4:39:59 GMT -5
This thread sums up both my parents and FIL.
My parents stand for pretty much NOTHING that the liberals do, but they absolutely despise Trump.
The FIL is such a narrow-minded liberal that it is impossible to have a civil conversation with him about any political issue. I promised my dear MIL (R.I.P.) that I would not initiate any political conversation with him and I can honestly say that I have held up to that commitment. Now, just like anyone should, I do fire back when he engages. It's usually a short debate. Just like Reagan said, the best way to combat a liberal is with facts and logic.
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Oct 17, 2023 6:33:15 GMT -5
My wife and I had the opportunity to attend a taco bar and some good fellowship with a bunch of friends recently, most from our church. Eventually, the topic turned to politics. Surprisingly, I found that two couples had voted for Biden. I’ve known these people for years and frankly, I was half shocked! Both husbands pack heat. Matter of fact they were carrying while we were meeting. Topping that, all four emphatically proclaim to be pro life. I finally had to speak up. I asked them how, in God’s name, knowing their belief system, could they have voted for Biden. The husbands virtually said nothing. And the only response I could get from the wives was, “I just don’t like Trump’s attitude!” And “No way I could vote for Donald Trump-He’s such a meanie!” I mean talk about airheaded! Like, no substance at all to their thought process, IMO! Thoughts? Feedback? They wouldn't like Jesus either, because he flipped tables and said tough words. A meanie.
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Post by HighCotton on Oct 17, 2023 6:46:06 GMT -5
My wife and I had the opportunity to attend a taco bar and some good fellowship with a bunch of friends recently, most from our church. Eventually, the topic turned to politics. Surprisingly, I found that two couples had voted for Biden. I’ve known these people for years and frankly, I was half shocked! Both husbands pack heat. Matter of fact they were carrying while we were meeting. Topping that, all four emphatically proclaim to be pro life. I finally had to speak up. I asked them how, in God’s name, knowing their belief system, could they have voted for Biden. The husbands virtually said nothing. And the only response I could get from the wives was, “I just don’t like Trump’s attitude!” And “No way I could vote for Donald Trump-He’s such a meanie!” I mean talk about airheaded! Like, no substance at all to their thought process, IMO! Thoughts? Feedback? They wouldn't like Jesus either, because he flipped tables and said tough words. A meanie. Ah yes! You make a good point!🤠
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Post by astronankin on Oct 17, 2023 7:18:31 GMT -5
I think a lot of people not only find Trump's attitude and big ego annoying, but also don't like that he sees many of the real problems, and talks loudly about them, investigates them, and deals with them. I personally am a conservative, and like his policies and other things, however have found his ego probably a little too much (his legal struggles seem to be inflating it). I read the Constitution a few years back, and I think he is one of the best presidents America has had in a long time. We have friends who are Democrats, and sometimes politics comes up. Some of them don't seem to like Trump a whole lot, but usually just complain about how crazy our government is. Others obviously have opinions, but don't really talk much about them. Yet others liked Trump's policies better than Biden's. We don't try to do any persuading, etc. Just general talk. Works pretty well.
I was able to read part of the article. I would say America is still in the complacency stage, but starting the apathy stage. Because we are mostly complancent with things, but starting to really become apathetic about ourselves and our country and what our government does
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Post by omegahunter on Oct 17, 2023 7:19:39 GMT -5
And that’s the issue with how the majority vote any more. Not about what they actually believe, they just don’t like the person even if they are the better candidate. I mean, he’s a meanie, really. I truly believe more people voted against Trump than voted for Biden. If the vote count is to believed. My fear is that it will happen again next year.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 17, 2023 7:51:44 GMT -5
Unfortunately a lot of people vote like it’s a popularity contest.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 17, 2023 7:54:59 GMT -5
And that’s the issue with how the majority vote any more. Not about what they actually believe, they just don’t like the person even if they are the better candidate. I mean, he’s a meanie, really. I truly believe more people voted against Trump than voted for Biden. If the vote count is to believed. My fear is that it will happen again next year. Same could be said when Trump beat Hillary. Lots of people would not vote for Hillary no matter who ran against her.
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Post by greyhair on Oct 17, 2023 9:01:45 GMT -5
I too wonder how Christians support Biden. I also wonder how they support Trump. Trump is not a Christian and does not attend church, and never has, and commits so many immoral and un-Christian acts...yet some Christians support him too.
If one wants to talk about a true Christian, look at Carter. A good President? No. A true moral Christian man? Yes. Many talk about faith in God and living as the Bible teaches, but few actually do it.
George W. Bush is also a man of faith, after an early sin-filled life.
It is apparent to me that we need a whole new crop of leaders in this country, ones with actual morals.
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Post by steiny on Oct 17, 2023 9:41:36 GMT -5
All the more reason why the Republican party should have kicked Trump to the curb a year ago and gone with someone more likeable. When the Dems play the switcheroo at the last minute and run Michelle or Newsome, there's a good chance Trump will get beat.
Even though Trumps policies were good for them, a lot of people simply don't like him.
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Post by jjas on Oct 17, 2023 11:13:33 GMT -5
I truly believe more people voted against Trump than voted for Biden. If the vote count is to believed. My fear is that it will happen again next year. Same could be said when Trump beat Hillary. Lots of people would not vote for Hillary no matter who ran against her. I agree. The Republicans could have run anyone against Hillary and they would have won. And IMO, Trump proved that.
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Post by esshup on Oct 18, 2023 0:08:13 GMT -5
While I really don't want Trump to be on the ticket (for fear of the hordes of people that will vote for someone else solely because they don't like his personality) if he's the Republican's choice, then that is the way I will vote. I don;t see us surviving (and thriving) under another 4 years of an administration like this one.
My college roomate (whom I talk with at least once a week) is a self proclaimed Libetard. He would vote against Biden if anybody else besides Trump were to oppose Biden. He would solely vote against Trump because of Trumps personality, not because he thinks Trump did a bad job as president. What I don't understand is how a person with an IQ of 150 can think like that.
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Post by saltydog on Oct 18, 2023 7:59:16 GMT -5
My Brother in law and sister in law which own an Excavating co dogged my wife and I for being Trump supporters while he was in office, since the election of Biden, which they voted for, their company's business operating expense's have almost tripled and on the verge of collapse. I don't want them to go under, but I do ask them how's Biden omics working for them. (Crickets). Not even been invited over for a long time now.
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Oct 18, 2023 11:57:22 GMT -5
Obama had seven wars in 8 years, Biden's has two wars in 3 years and Trump had zero wars in 4 years. I'm voting for the peace life maker.
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Post by bullseye69 on Oct 18, 2023 12:53:37 GMT -5
That's pretty much how Obama got in. They wanted a black president. No other real reason.
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