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Post by genesis273 on Oct 1, 2023 8:03:09 GMT -5
We're looking at getting a water softener so we had Culligan come out, test the water and gives us their run down. Everything seems to be about average with the other dealers in the area. However, when discussing the installation, there is something that is a bit questionable to me. And perhaps it's just my ignorance.
The water softener will go in my utility room with the washer, dryer, hot water heater and whole house water filter, freezer and furnace This room is roughly 7' by 13'. The location for the water softener will be on the opposite wall of the washer and dryer, where the main water line comes in. They are wanting to run the discharge line up, across the ceiling and back down to the drain where my washing machine is hooked up. To get to my question, why wouldn't they run the line through the floor and connect directly to the waste line? Neither one of us are too happy about the line running across the ceiling. Is this common?
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Post by beermaker on Oct 1, 2023 8:16:05 GMT -5
Not good to connect directly to waste line. There could (unknown to you) be a small back up that would put waste (sewage) into the softener. You can take it from there. Much better to flow into non-sealed line that does not have any pressure.
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 1, 2023 8:19:38 GMT -5
Not good to connect directly to waste line. There could (unknown to you) be a small back up that would put waste (sewage) into the softener. You can take it from there. Much better to flow into non-sealed line that does not have any pressure. That makes more sense. Thank you
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Post by greghopper on Oct 1, 2023 8:23:06 GMT -5
How much waste water comes from softener you know?
If it’s not much just drain to ground or bucket …
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Post by featherduster on Oct 1, 2023 8:24:52 GMT -5
Mine is located in a small room with my furnace, hot water heater, washer, dryer and my well bladder. The drain is a plastic tube running along the floor/wall directly to a sump pump pit.
During the summer months that sump has a splitter valve which allows sump drain water to go out directly into my yard above ground. During the winter months I close this valve forcing water into my septic system. This process extends the life of your drain field by not flooding it with wash water and other waters.
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Post by esshup on Oct 1, 2023 22:13:46 GMT -5
My softener goes to sump pit too. It then goes out to the yard (all year 'round). I am not concerned about freezing in the winter due to the salt that it uses plus I have a gutter heating element in the drain line outside so if it is really cold and I see that it freezes, I can turn that on and thaw out a path for it to go. It's roughly 40 yards from the house where it exits the ground. (pop up 4" drain)
I would not run it up and out like they were suggesting, and I would run it to the open discharge for the washer if you go that route.
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Post by greghopper on Oct 2, 2023 7:00:48 GMT -5
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Post by omegahunter on Oct 2, 2023 8:28:34 GMT -5
They need to get their story straight. Either it damages stainless or not; it can't be both ways. We've been in our current house 17 years while using a water softener drained to a sump pit. It is a pedestal pump and I've only had to change out a switch. Hard telling how many years that pump has seen brine water before we moved in.
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Post by esshup on Oct 2, 2023 12:00:05 GMT -5
They need to get their story straight. Either it damages stainless or not; it can't be both ways. We've been in our current house 17 years while using a water softener drained to a sump pit. It is a pedestal pump and I've only had to change out a switch. Hard telling how many years that pump has seen brine water before we moved in. Cheap FloTech pedestal pump here, had to change it once since 2009. It's RED due to the iron in the water. I have a spare sitting next to it, all plumbed and ready. All that is needed to switch it out is unplug from wall, undo a plastic union, re-attach the new pump/union and plug it back into the wall. < 5 minutes from start to end.
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Post by omegahunter on Oct 2, 2023 12:06:47 GMT -5
I should really do that. Hate for the stuff in the basement to get soggy or ruined because I didn't have a $150 backup sitting there ready.
I did a sneaky and wired an upstairs hallway outlet into the sump pump circuit so that if it was not lit up I would check the breaker. It was popping off the breaker occassionally when the switch was going bad.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Oct 2, 2023 13:02:07 GMT -5
I installed a water powered sump pump as a backup for our main pump. Now that the basement is getting close to finished I didn’t want it ruined by a flooding sump pit. Don’t have to worry about batteries not lasting long enough in a power outage with this backup. Couldn’t do it if you have a well though. I should look into a softener though. Have to change the main water line valve at least every two years.
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