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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 28, 2023 13:48:41 GMT -5
What's you all thoughts on head to head match ups of these calibers?
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 28, 2023 14:12:46 GMT -5
From manufacturers of ammo, availability and ballistics I'd go 350 personally. Not a boom stick guy at all as many know, but I do see a day coming where I hunt with a gun more out of state on public land excursions and 350 is on my list due to how widely legal it is in most states for more seasons.
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Post by BigJLocke on Sept 28, 2023 14:24:33 GMT -5
I will probably never be in a position to shoot much further than 200 yards, at least for the foreseeable future, so the 350 legend is perfect for what I need it for. The biggest deciding factor though would have to be the recoil. I have 5 kids and even the youngest can shoot it without worry of dislocating a shoulder. I’ve heard the 450 bushmaster is a real banger.
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Post by omegahunter on Sept 28, 2023 14:39:03 GMT -5
I will probably never be in a position to shoot much further than 200 yards, at least for the foreseeable future, so the 350 legend is perfect for what I need it for. The biggest deciding factor though would have to be the recoil. I have 5 kids and even the youngest can shoot it without worry of dislocating a shoulder. I’ve heard the 450 bushmaster is a real banger. Got to shoot a 450 last week or 2 for the first time. It was in an AR and I can say that there was not near the recoil I was expecting. Nice gentle push. It would be even less in a CVA Scout 2 with their brakes. I would say the .400 would be the perfect blend of larger diameter bullet and speed. However, there is a SEVERE lack of .400 bullets to reload at rifle velocities right now (same as there was for the 350 Legend when it came out). I don't shoot factory ammo in anything I have except rimfires. Way too much trouble to reload those for what it's worth. |
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Post by HuntMeister on Sept 28, 2023 14:53:58 GMT -5
JMHO based on my limited knowledge of all these rounds...
you can keep the 450, don't need the recoil and just plain not needed.
At this point in time, I would roll with either the 350 or 360 due to the bullet choices for reloading. If I did not reload, then the 350 would be my choice due to a great selection of factory ammo.
in time I might change my mind depending on what becomes available for the 400 bullet wise.
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Post by steiny on Sept 28, 2023 15:46:01 GMT -5
In Indiana I'd pass on all of them and go with a good old, tried and true caliber.
Something like a .308, 30-06, .243, .270, etc. will kill deer just as dead and give you more range and flat trajectory.
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Post by BigJLocke on Sept 28, 2023 15:59:44 GMT -5
In Indiana I'd pass on all of them and go with a good old, tried and true caliber. Something like a .308, 30-06, .243, .270, etc. will kill deer just as dead and give you more range and flat trajectory. But you can’t use them on public land. |
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Post by titanium700 on Sept 28, 2023 16:03:43 GMT -5
Fortunately I don’t have to chose as my public land rifle is a 358 wssm but if I did and I do reload so I’d roll with the 360 buckhammer due to the fact that it actually uses .358” bullets vs the .355” from the 350 legend.
I’m not much of a fan of those 400 or 450’s so I’d pass on those.
Ultimately I hunt mostly private so I rotate my rifles.
Maybe one day I’d use my .308 next day .243AI
Maybe I’d get a wild hair and use my 300 wsm who knows?
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Post by jjas on Sept 28, 2023 16:54:50 GMT -5
It's hard to say since of the four I only own a .350 legend. I do like the lack of recoil and it's a solid 150 yard gun in my opinion and that's a pretty good poke where I hunt.
The .360 might be a good choice, but I would pass on it right now and wait a couple of years and let the rifle and ammo manufacturers get more product on the shelves and more experience in the field before I'd even think seriously about going that way.
As for the .400 vs the .450 Bushmaster. I've gotten to the point where I'm not a fan of recoil so neither really appeals to me.
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Post by parson on Sept 29, 2023 15:43:18 GMT -5
I've watched a few head-to-head youtube vids on these calibers. I'd probably go with 360 Buckhammer if brass were readily available. I like the Henry lever guns. Edit to ad link www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKrypAANOZc |
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Post by omegahunter on Oct 2, 2023 10:01:10 GMT -5
Fortunately I don’t have to chose as my public land rifle is a 358 wssm but if I did and I do reload so I’d roll with the 360 buckhammer due to the fact that it actually uses .358” bullets vs the .355” from the 350 legend. I’m not much of a fan of those 400 or 450’s so I’d pass on those. Ultimately I hunt mostly private so I rotate my rifles. Maybe one day I’d use my .308 next day .243AI Maybe I’d get a wild hair and use my 300 wsm who knows? I picked up another 358 WSSM last month. MGM barrel for my Encore. Came with a good amount of brass and a set of Hornady dies. The guy was turning brass necks not because of the chamber neck, but because the bullet alignment sleeve of the seating die was not large enough. I sent the sleeve off and had it opened from 0.390" to 0.400". Now I don't have to turn necks. He had a recipe for Speer 180 FN and a powder that I do not have. I looked up an IMR4198 load that looks to duplicate his load (Hornady book shows it the same velocity) and it seems to shoot pretty good without any load workup. |
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Post by deadeer on Oct 2, 2023 10:44:52 GMT -5
Fortunately I don’t have to chose as my public land rifle is a 358 wssm but if I did and I do reload so I’d roll with the 360 buckhammer due to the fact that it actually uses .358” bullets vs the .355” from the 350 legend. I’m not much of a fan of those 400 or 450’s so I’d pass on those. Ultimately I hunt mostly private so I rotate my rifles. Maybe one day I’d use my .308 next day .243AI Maybe I’d get a wild hair and use my 300 wsm who knows? I picked up another 358 WSSM last month. MGM barrel for my Encore. Came with a good amount of brass and a set of Hornady dies. The guy was turning brass necks not because of the chamber neck, but because the bullet alignment sleeve of the seating die was not large enough. I sent the sleeve off and had it opened from 0.390" to 0.400". Now I don't have to turn necks. He had a recipe for Speer 180 FN and a powder that I do not have. I looked up an IMR4198 load that looks to duplicate his load (Hornady book shows it the same velocity) and it seems to shoot pretty good without any load workup. You snatched up that deal before I was done reading the post. Lol. Good score! When we were strapped to the cartridge limits, I just went with the plain short neck 358win route in an MGM barrel. It was easy to simply neck up 308 brass, and cut the neck to length. I seat the bullet to normal oal, and found an accurate load right away. I have a new box of 358 brass sitting here, but never used it since the 308 brass reworked so well and has held up. The 35's are potent deer medicine thats for sure. From the 357max, to 350L, and 358win, we've put quite a few deer down over the years. |
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Post by omegahunter on Oct 2, 2023 10:49:47 GMT -5
I picked up another 358 WSSM last month. MGM barrel for my Encore. Came with a good amount of brass and a set of Hornady dies. The guy was turning brass necks not because of the chamber neck, but because the bullet alignment sleeve of the seating die was not large enough. I sent the sleeve off and had it opened from 0.390" to 0.400". Now I don't have to turn necks. He had a recipe for Speer 180 FN and a powder that I do not have. I looked up an IMR4198 load that looks to duplicate his load (Hornady book shows it the same velocity) and it seems to shoot pretty good without any load workup. You snatched up that deal before I was done reading the post. Lol. Good score! When we were strapped to the cartridge limits, I just went with the plain short neck 358win route in an MGM barrel. It was easy to simply neck up 308 brass, and cut the neck to length. I seat the bullet to normal oal, and found an accurate load right away. I have a new box of 358 brass sitting here, but never used it since the 308 brass reworked so well and has held up. The 35's are potent deer medicine thats for sure. From the 357max, to 350L, and 358win, we've put quite a few deer down over the years. I did the same with an H&R Handirifle in .35 Remington. I have most of my brass left full-length and several trimmed to public land length; loaded exactly the same. Literally no difference in how they shoot. The 358 bullets are deer stompers! |
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