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Post by astronankin on Sept 5, 2023 7:18:50 GMT -5
My squirrel hunting gun.... Bullets getting jammed even with the ramrod in, then the mechanism that moves them up into the action getting stuck, and last of all, the action itself got stuck. Then last night a bullet got jammed again and I was foolish and stuck the ramrod in, well that was the only bullet in the gun by then and guess what, it didn't move into the action but slid all the way down into the end of the chamber below the action! Great, so now what do I do?? Dad told me the gun is spring loaded so it needs multiple bullets in there in order to load the gun. So that was somewhat of an answer. He was going to look at it, but I don't know if he did anything. Anyone know why this might be acting up? It hasn't been cleaned in a very long time that I know of and the action feels sticky when this happens, so this is probably the case.
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Post by titanium700 on Sept 5, 2023 8:39:58 GMT -5
We need info.
What brand and model .22?
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Post by deadeer on Sept 5, 2023 9:09:05 GMT -5
You likely answered your own question. Rim fire ammo, especially 22, is very dirty. Gummy,waxy, oily, all mix and cause hang ups. There will be a thousand opinions on how or what to do. Easy try is spray some wd40 in the action and cycle it several times. See if that frees it up, then move on to next cleaning/lubing step. Good luck.
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Post by stevein on Sept 5, 2023 12:42:43 GMT -5
Poormans ultra sonic cleaner. Mineral spirits in a pan deep enough to allow covering the parts. Sometimes a paint can is needed. Cover with mineral spirits a nd let soak for at least a day. Clean the barrel and chamber. Blow off the action with compressed air and oil with your favorite lube. Clean both mag tubes especially the inner tube. I have seen them so dirty you could plant tomatoes in what comes out.
Make & model number will help.
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Post by esshup on Sept 5, 2023 20:08:07 GMT -5
Take any wood parts off of the gun before soaking in mineral spirits.
It's dirty and that is most likely causing the problems. Clean, clean, clean. Lightly lube when done and go verify that the zero hasn't changed.
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Post by greghopper on Sept 5, 2023 20:11:04 GMT -5
Take any wood parts off of the gun before soaking in mineral spirits. It's dirty and that is most likely causing the problems. Clean, clean, clean. Lightly lube when done and go verify that the zero hasn't changed. Kerosene is good cleaner also…..Thin and light |
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Post by astronankin on Sept 6, 2023 8:00:16 GMT -5
I'll have to look closely at the barrel for the make and model. It's a very plain looking gun. And yeah, the action felt sticky so that's what makes me think it needs cleaned. I can try the WD40, I know we have a can because I used it on a rooster's legs for mite damage treatment a few weeks ago.
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Post by titanium700 on Sept 6, 2023 17:28:02 GMT -5
I don’t like using WD-40 on guns…..it attracts moisture.
On a semi auto I like to use brake cleaner or carburetor cleaner and compressed air. = brush if needed.
Then oil with appropriate gun oil.
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Post by astronankin on Sept 7, 2023 6:35:57 GMT -5
I don’t like using WD-40 on guns…..it attracts moisture. On a semi auto I like to use brake cleaner or carburetor cleaner and compressed air. = brush if needed. Then oil with appropriate gun oil. I don't have a semi auto. But when I shoot, it can sound like I do! I could try just taking the gun apart and giving it a very thorough cleaning. We have stuff like Gunzilla that I know has worked very well on our muzzleloaders. |
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Post by esshup on Sept 7, 2023 18:49:19 GMT -5
I don’t like using WD-40 on guns…..it attracts moisture. On a semi auto I like to use brake cleaner or carburetor cleaner and compressed air. = brush if needed. Then oil with appropriate gun oil. When WD-40 dries out it leaves a waxy coating. I have a WD-40 can in the garage that the top is all sticky and you can scrape it off with your thumbnail. Muzzleloader cleaner won't clean regular firearms as well as regular firearm cleaner will. |
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Post by astronankin on Nov 6, 2023 7:59:01 GMT -5
So... Here we are in November and I still have yet to clean the gun. Life got in the way, at least for a few weeks.
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Post by astronankin on Nov 28, 2023 8:17:52 GMT -5
Finally did a rather rough round of cleaning. Found that the entire bottom section of the action was gummed up. Got my dad to take the spring off and also tried to take the action out completely to do a thorough cleaning but the screw on the bottom was literally welded in by all the nastiness so even Dad wasn't able to get it out. So I did what I could. I used Gunzilla cleaning volution which worked quite well and there was a lot of dirt coming off. Sometimes I simply just poured the Gunzilla onto the dirty spots and wow, it literally lifted much of the looser stuff up and that ran off pretty quick. Once I started putting things back together we discovered that the action also needed oiling, so did that. Took the gun out for squirrels afterwards and while it wasn't a super good cleaning the action no longer stuck and was working maybe a bit smoother than it has in a while. Now on to my great grandfather's birding gun, which also needs cleaned but should take as long.
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Post by tomthreetoes on Nov 30, 2023 17:39:40 GMT -5
You likely answered your own question. Rim fire ammo, especially 22, is very dirty. Gummy,waxy, oily, all mix and cause hang ups. There will be a thousand opinions on how or what to do. Easy try is spray some wd40 in the action and cycle it several times. See if that frees it up, then move on to next cleaning/lubing step. Good luck. I don't want to sound like a "know it all" but WD 40 is not friendly to .22 firearms or any firearm for that matter. WD40 is best used for rust prevention but it will gum up over time and cause all kinds of problems in auto loading .22s. When problems start spray it down with some penetrating oil or soak it in a solvent then dry and use some good gun oil. |
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Post by deadeer on Nov 30, 2023 23:05:41 GMT -5
You likely answered your own question. Rim fire ammo, especially 22, is very dirty. Gummy,waxy, oily, all mix and cause hang ups. There will be a thousand opinions on how or what to do. Easy try is spray some wd40 in the action and cycle it several times. See if that frees it up, then move on to next cleaning/lubing step. Good luck. I don't want to sound like a "know it all" but WD 40 is not friendly to .22 firearms or any firearm for that matter. WD40 is best used for rust prevention but it will gum up over time and cause all kinds of problems in auto loading .22s. When problems start spray it down with some penetrating oil or soak it in a solvent then dry and use some good gun oil. You guys missed my point. Spray something in the action and cycle it to see if it helped. THEN clean it up, as stated in my paragraph. That would help determine if it was just grimy or had other potential problems. Apparently you all must have had real bad experiences with WD40. It's about all I use, and ever have. My guns are clean and in tip top shape, no misfires, sludge, or any other problems. I keep a rag saturated to wipe down everything and will continue this regimine. To each their own. |
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Post by esshup on Dec 1, 2023 8:16:01 GMT -5
I've switched from using WD-40 to using ZEP 45. It has Teflon in it and it doesn't seem to turn gummy if left to dry over a long time. I still use WD-40 for some things but typically will grab a can of ZEP-45 if one is handy.
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Post by bullseye69 on Dec 1, 2023 10:29:14 GMT -5
WD-40 is the only thing I use.
Don't know why someone would say it attracts moisture when it was designed to displace water hence the WD! Water Displacement
Yes its bad on ammo because it's so good at penatrating that it can get by the primer or bullet and kill the round. But I'm sure any oil will kill ammo if it gets on it.
But I still use it. My dad has used it for ever.
Never gums up for me.
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Post by omegahunter on Dec 1, 2023 13:26:01 GMT -5
WD-40 is the only thing I use. Don't know why someone would say it attracts moisture when it was designed to displace water hence the WD! Water Displacement Yes its bad on ammo because it's so good at penatrating that it can get by the primer or bullet and kill the round. But I'm sure any oil will kill ammo if it gets on it. But I still use it. My dad has used it for ever. Never gums up for me. It's all my uncle has ever used. I have had more trouble with Rem Oil turning into a varnish after a long period of time than what my uncle has ever had by hosing down his firearms with WD40 when he comes in from the field. |
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