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Post by subzero350 on Nov 12, 2022 18:34:01 GMT -5
Neighbors shot twice at a buck early this morning and apparently didn't hit it. Range was less than 50 yards. No blood. They admitted they didn't sight the gun in before season but they were blaming old ammo.
Come'on man!
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Post by Huntnfreak on Nov 12, 2022 19:20:57 GMT -5
Yell it louder for those in the back!!!
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Post by greghopper on Nov 12, 2022 19:32:14 GMT -5
Open sites can be a challenge for some also.
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Post by scrub-buster on Nov 12, 2022 21:49:59 GMT -5
I went through 2 scopes and over $100 worth of slugs before I finally got my wife's 20g sighted in where I wanted it. If she misses a deer it's on her.
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Post by Sasquatch on Nov 13, 2022 7:16:10 GMT -5
It's difficult to understand that lack of preparation if you any option. It's one of the few things in the hunting world that you can control.
Still, when I was just starting out we were so poor I tried to use a lot of substandard setups. Once I was shooting foster slugs out of a smoothbore pump that only had a bead for a sight. I know that a lot of deer have been killed with such rigs, but I could not buy enough slugs to see exactly what it was doing. I shot three or four times at a big ten that was rut dumb and chasing a doe. Each time I shot he ran closer. At the end ( and I can still see this ) he stood skylined against the sunset with me out of bullets. I vowed then and there I would never gun hunt again until I had a decent gun. a year or two later I bought a NEF Ultra slugster--practically a ray-gun compared to earlier setups-- and killed the first deer I aimed at.
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Post by freedomhunter on Nov 13, 2022 7:34:02 GMT -5
First two bucks I kilt in hnf was with a smooth bore and iron sights never thought anything of it I've always been a good shot though
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Post by duff on Nov 13, 2022 10:34:00 GMT -5
First two bucks I kilt in hnf was with a smooth bore and iron sights never thought anything of it I've always been a good shot though Opposite for me. I was using an old smooth bore single shot 16 gage with a bead. Whiffed on about 4 of them despite hitting paper plates on the range. Upgraded to a smooth bore slug barrel 870 when I turned 18. Had a bad shot on 1 buck and switched to a scoped in-line. Scoped rifles from then on. Shotguns were fir birds and bunny's. 1st 2 deer killed, does,, were archery deer though. 1st buck was with a bow too. But to be fair most of my hunting back then was before duck and goose season so really only gun hunted a weekend a season. |
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Post by freedomhunter on Nov 13, 2022 10:42:43 GMT -5
I started out with a bear compound but then moved on to the 870 with brenneke slugs to get one
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Post by titanium700 on Nov 13, 2022 11:51:09 GMT -5
As a kid my dad used to hunt solely with a savage stevens model 58 in 16 gauge.
While he never had a shot over 60 yds he killed a buck every year with a heart shot.
That was a smoothbore with a bead sight.
Last time he hunted he used my brothers AR-15 and said he hated it. Lol
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Post by beermaker on Nov 13, 2022 12:01:15 GMT -5
I know someone who does this regularly, but with his bow. Ne NEVER practices, I mean NEVER. There have been years when the last time he shot his bow was the last time he missed/injured a deer. It would absolutely infuriate me, but he is such a dear friend to me that I won't rip into him like I would anyone else. I know, that's bad policy, but it's just the way I feel and know how he would react.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Nov 13, 2022 12:10:34 GMT -5
Shot quite a few deer with a smooth bore 870 and Winchester rifled slugs open sights. Missed a nice deer at about 60 yards one year. Bought a rifeled barrel and the gunstore owner pointed me to Hornady SST's. Love that set up, one of the benefits is the Wednesday or Thursday before gun season I clean the barrel, it usually only takes one shot to see that the scope is still zeroed at 50 yards then I clean the barrel again. Ready to hunt.
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Post by treetop on Nov 13, 2022 12:57:03 GMT -5
Shot quite a few deer with a smooth bore 870 and Winchester rifled slugs open sights. Missed a nice deer at about 60 yards one year. Bought a rifeled barrel and the gunstore owner pointed me to Hornady SST's. Love that set up, one of the benefits is the Wednesday or Thursday before gun season I clean the barrel, it usually only takes one shot to see that the scope is still zeroed at 50 yards then I clean the barrel again. Ready to hunt. I find running one round after cleaning a bit better for some reason my gun likes a bit of powder in it never fails first round is always off 2 nd is dang near perfect if I do my job |
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Post by treetop on Nov 13, 2022 12:58:57 GMT -5
I started out with a bear compound but then moved on to the 870 with brenneke slugs to get one Started with a used bear whitetail used it for years managed to take a few. |
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Post by greghopper on Nov 13, 2022 13:42:43 GMT -5
Shot quite a few deer with a smooth bore 870 and Winchester rifled slugs open sights. Missed a nice deer at about 60 yards one year. Bought a rifeled barrel and the gunstore owner pointed me to Hornady SST's. Love that set up, one of the benefits is the Wednesday or Thursday before gun season I clean the barrel, it usually only takes one shot to see that the scope is still zeroed at 50 yards then I clean the barrel again. Ready to hunt. I find running one round after cleaning a bit better for some reason my gun likes a bit of powder in it never fails first round is always off 2 nd is dang near perfect if I do my job This ^^^^ |
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 13, 2022 14:33:30 GMT -5
Walking across a field last night headed to the forest on the other side, I kept feeling a "rattle" while my rifle was slung across my back. It only took me a few seconds to locate the source -- the scope base was loose. I was already far enough that I went ahead to my chosen stand, realizing unless a buck was 20 yards or less, I wasn't going to chance a shot.
A half hour ago, I pulled the scope, applied Loctite to the three base screws, and remounted the scope. I just tested fired it at 100 yards and was 2.5" high and 2.5" right. 10 clicks down and left and I'm ready to go again.
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 13, 2022 20:14:13 GMT -5
My first “deer gun” was my rabbit gun. My Remington 870 Wingmaster. 28” modified choke. A single bead. I shot Remington Foster slugs. I learned early that for close in I needed to bury the bead. Out there about 75 yards it was full bead. I killed a bunch of deer with that gun. I did get a smooth slug barrel for it. The added sights really helped I tried scoping it with one of those “saddle mounts”. Because the barrel is not pinned I could never get it to hold zero. I then bought an 870 3” magnum with a cantilevered fully rifled barrel. Since it’s fixed to the barrel a scope would finally hold zero. I then bought a field barrel abd installed an after market cantilever mount on it. I scoped that with a 2X scope for turkeys. So it’s my deer and turkey gun.  |
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Post by welder on Nov 13, 2022 20:22:52 GMT -5
I remember when shooting Foster slugs,if you hit a paper plate at 50 yards, you had a tack driver. Times have changed!
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Nov 13, 2022 20:24:37 GMT -5
I took 4 shots last month to confirm.
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Post by tynimiller on Nov 14, 2022 7:21:21 GMT -5
I know someone who does this regularly, but with his bow. Ne NEVER practices, I mean NEVER. There have been years when the last time he shot his bow was the last time he missed/injured a deer. It would absolutely infuriate me, but he is such a dear friend to me that I won't rip into him like I would anyone else. I know, that's bad policy, but it's just the way I feel and know how he would react. I mean this with all respect but I question what kind of person would make such decisions as these? Such a simple task to ensure you give a d*** at least. I'd recommend this conversation needs breached, especially since close friends as you say. |
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Post by subzero350 on Nov 14, 2022 11:40:26 GMT -5
I guess I just don't understand why someone would head out to the field with a weapon (and ammo) that they have no idea how it shoots or even how accurate it is because they haven't tried it out at the range recently (or even within the last year).
If all you have is an inaccurate smoothbore shotgun to hunt with; if you at least try it out at the range, you should be able to determine what limitations it has and what your maximum effective range is going to be with it to reasonably score a kill shot on a deer.
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