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Post by greghopper on Aug 1, 2022 13:28:40 GMT -5
Yeah I don’t remember any rules on amount of rounds it all started when HPR became legal and they are the only gun with a limit now. My reading of the above I.C. would include all rifles used on private ground. Is there a separate I.C. for public or just an I.A.C? Not sure I got it from CO thread …. That really wouldn’t make sense though if that’s the case
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Post by tynimiller on Aug 1, 2022 14:15:49 GMT -5
How many rounds come in a typical box of ammo? When I buy usually 20 or 25. It is silly that you can't just throw a box in your backpack and go. I'm not a massive gun hunter as many know but (but allow me to play the opposite thought process) it is also IMO just as silly to not take the time to pull a few out of the box and slid them in my sling ammo slots on my gun...or a vest or the magazine of the gun rather than them be buried in a box in my backpack.
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Post by firstwd on Aug 1, 2022 14:35:34 GMT -5
How many rounds come in a typical box of ammo? When I buy usually 20 or 25. It is silly that you can't just throw a box in your backpack and go. I'm not a massive gun hunter as many know but (but allow me to play the opposite thought process) it is also IMO just as silly to not take the time to pull a few out of the box and slid them in my sling ammo slots on my gun...or a vest or the magazine of the gun rather than them be buried in a box in my backpack. Much like lawrencecountyhunter, I have been several places and states with the same gun and gear with one box of ammo in the backpack. Load the gun magazine and leave the rest in the bag. Just a convenience thing for travel.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Aug 1, 2022 15:15:02 GMT -5
How many rounds come in a typical box of ammo? When I buy usually 20 or 25. It is silly that you can't just throw a box in your backpack and go. I'm not a massive gun hunter as many know but (but allow me to play the opposite thought process) it is also IMO just as silly to not take the time to pull a few out of the box and slid them in my sling ammo slots on my gun...or a vest or the magazine of the gun rather than them be buried in a box in my backpack. Is it an undue burden? No. But it's a rule that was made just for the sake of making a rule, no real benefit to it.
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 1, 2022 16:50:40 GMT -5
I'm not a massive gun hunter as many know but (but allow me to play the opposite thought process) it is also IMO just as silly to not take the time to pull a few out of the box and slid them in my sling ammo slots on my gun...or a vest or the magazine of the gun rather than them be buried in a box in my backpack. Is it an undue burden? No. But it's a rule that was made just for the sake of making a rule, no real benefit to it. Bingo!! There were/are some groups that want to limit the multiple volley shots at deer. What better way to do it than limit ammo? Some even pushed for the gun to hold no more than three cartridges. One in the chamber and I’m two in the magazine. I would like to see the DnR’s reasoning on the 10 cartridge rule.. I’ll bet it was from the anti-rifle bunch squawking .
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Post by greghopper on Aug 1, 2022 17:01:11 GMT -5
Is it an undue burden? No. But it's a rule that was made just for the sake of making a rule, no real benefit to it. Bingo!! There were/are some groups that want to limit the multiple volley shots at deer. What better way to do it than limit ammo? Some even pushed for the gun to hold no more than three cartridges. One in the chamber and I’m two in the magazine. I would like to see the DnR’s reasoning on the 10 cartridge rule.. I’ll bet it was from the anti-rifle bunch squawking . I thought it came from the Pennsylvania model… I know they looked at other states where HPR were allowed. At least they didn’t limit capacity just Ammo limit. What I don’t understand is if HPR are so safe(as they seem)why not legal on public ground also?
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Post by esshup on Aug 1, 2022 18:45:07 GMT -5
Bingo!! There were/are some groups that want to limit the multiple volley shots at deer. What better way to do it than limit ammo? Some even pushed for the gun to hold no more than three cartridges. One in the chamber and I’m two in the magazine. I would like to see the DnR’s reasoning on the 10 cartridge rule.. I’ll bet it was from the anti-rifle bunch squawking . I thought it came from the Pennsylvania model… I know they looked at other states where HPR were allowed. At least they didn’t limit capacity just Ammo limit. What I don’t understand is if HPR are so safe(as they seem)why not legal on public ground also? Baby steps. Now they can prove that they aren't dangerous so that might be the next thing.
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Post by ms660 on Aug 1, 2022 21:24:13 GMT -5
Bingo!! There were/are some groups that want to limit the multiple volley shots at deer. What better way to do it than limit ammo? Some even pushed for the gun to hold no more than three cartridges. One in the chamber and I’m two in the magazine. I would like to see the DnR’s reasoning on the 10 cartridge rule.. I’ll bet it was from the anti-rifle bunch squawking . I thought it came from the Pennsylvania model… I know they looked at other states where HPR were allowed. At least they didn’t limit capacity just Ammo limit. What I don’t understand is if HPR are so safe(as they seem)why not legal on public ground also? I myself very seldom guin hunt public ground but live close to many acres of it. On the first weekend of the season, people are parked everywhere. There seems to be orange behind every tree, I can see why just because of the number of hunters in these woods why HPR are not allowed. Hell, it would be dangerous if sling shots are the only weapons allowed IMHO.
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Post by esshup on Aug 2, 2022 8:06:22 GMT -5
I thought it came from the Pennsylvania model… I know they looked at other states where HPR were allowed. At least they didn’t limit capacity just Ammo limit. What I don’t understand is if HPR are so safe(as they seem)why not legal on public ground also? I myself very seldom guin hunt public ground but live close to many acres of it. On the first weekend of the season, people are parked everywhere. There seems to be orange behind every tree, I can see why just because of the number of hunters in these woods why HPR are not allowed. Hell, it would be dangerous if sling shots are the only weapons allowed IMHO. 20 years ago it was worse than that in Wisconsin, and the Northern half of the state allows rifles. I'd lose count of the number of shots fired in the first hour.
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Aug 2, 2022 8:39:50 GMT -5
My 308 is a 5 clip and I fill it up. I just do it. It's been a long time where I took a 2nd shot. The other 0-15 in the box of 20 gets thrown in the pouch. Each year or so the number of bullets go down one. When I get to 5 or 6, I repeat the process. I get another box of 20. So, from year to year, I carry 5-26, but no more than 5 in the rifle. Just the way I do it. What's poorly written is the word "possession". If I buy it is transferred from their possession to my personal possession. Where I store it varies. Some are in my hunting house, some in the hunting pouch and 5 in the rifle when hunting. All are in my possession, just stored in different locations. A box of two still in possession at my house. And I hate grammer!
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Post by jjas on Aug 2, 2022 10:43:31 GMT -5
What I do is put three rounds in my primary mag. I keep a spare mag in my pack with three rounds in it (just in case I somehow lose the one in my rifle). I put the other 4 rounds in a pouch also inside my pack.
That makes 10...
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Post by 36fan on Aug 3, 2022 20:45:01 GMT -5
Is it an undue burden? No. But it's a rule that was made just for the sake of making a rule, no real benefit to it. Bingo!! There were/are some groups that want to limit the multiple volley shots at deer. What better way to do it than limit ammo? Some even pushed for the gun to hold no more than three cartridges. One in the chamber and I’m two in the magazine. I would like to see the DnR’s reasoning on the 10 cartridge rule.. I’ll bet it was from the anti-rifle bunch squawking . IC is Indiana Code, which is law made by the elected legislators. IAC is Indiana Administrative Code, which is rule made by the respective agency that says how they are going to enforce the law. DNR didn't make the 10 round limit, the legislators did, but DNR is responsible for enforcing it.
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Post by omegahunter on Aug 8, 2022 7:08:08 GMT -5
Per the regs, the 10 total shell limit is only with HPR (.243 & up) on private land. It does not state that with .357 cal and up on public or private land. Rambo look-a-likes behind every tree! HA The round limit has always only been included in the .243 and up HPR section and not in the .357 rifles allowed on private AND public lands. Maybe even the last couple reg books have even specified that the round limit applies to "rifles in this section", referring to the .243 HPRs. The newest reg book has them divided off and the limit refers to "these" cartridges. DNR is trying to make it pretty clear which rifles have the round count limit.
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Post by duff on Aug 16, 2022 6:38:43 GMT -5
How many rounds come in a typical box of ammo? When I buy usually 20 or 25. It is silly that you can't just throw a box in your backpack and go. That is my thoughts. Another scenario...I used my backpack to carry fishing gear when bank fishing. The other day some rounds from deer season fell out. Hard telling how long they'd been in there. What is the issue if I have 10 or 100 rounds?
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Aug 16, 2022 9:10:16 GMT -5
Just more dumb regulations. It seems there is a lot of bad or dumb regulations on almost every subject. Some over a hundred years that pertain to nothing today. Hunting regulations should fit easily on one side of 8x11 paper. Close to half page.
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Post by BigJLocke on Oct 2, 2022 0:38:26 GMT -5
I haven't seen this year's version of the regs, but it used to just say rifle. I hope they changed it. When I carry my 357 rifle 6 of my 10 rounds are in my handgun. Not sure what the guide may say but here is the Code IC 14-22-2-8 IC 14-22-2-8 Deer hunting; permitted firearms; required report Sec. 8. (a) This section applies to a hunting season beginning after June 30, 2016. (b) A hunter may use a rifle to hunt deer on privately owned land subject to the following: (1) The use of a rifle is permitted during hunting seasons established by the department. (2) The rifle must be chambered for a cartridge that fires a bullet that is two hundred forty-three thousandths (.243) of an inch in diameter or larger. (3) The rifle must fire a cartridge that has a minimum case length of one and sixteen-hundredths (1.16) inches, but is no longer than three (3) inches. (4) A hunter may not possess more than ten (10) cartridges for the rifle while hunting deer under this section. (5) The rifle must meet any other requirements established by the department. (c) The use of a full metal jacketed bullet to hunt deer is unlawful. (d) The department shall report on the impact of the use of rifles to hunt deer under this section to the governor and, in an electronic format under IC 5-14-6, the general assembly before February 15, 2020. (e) The department may adopt rules under IC 4-22-2 to authorize the use of rifles on public property. As added by P.L.110-2016, SEC.1. Amended by P.L.195-2017, SEC.7; P.L.39-2018, SEC.6; P.L.164-2020, SEC.53. So according to this, you can use 308 on public or federal land right? Or no? I was planning to use my 308 on public lands, but the way some things read, I’m not sure if it will be allowed, more specifically on the big oaks draw hunt.
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Post by span870 on Oct 2, 2022 3:14:14 GMT -5
Not sure what the guide may say but here is the Code IC 14-22-2-8 IC 14-22-2-8 Deer hunting; permitted firearms; required report Sec. 8. (a) This section applies to a hunting season beginning after June 30, 2016. (b) A hunter may use a rifle to hunt deer on privately owned land subject to the following: (1) The use of a rifle is permitted during hunting seasons established by the department. (2) The rifle must be chambered for a cartridge that fires a bullet that is two hundred forty-three thousandths (.243) of an inch in diameter or larger. (3) The rifle must fire a cartridge that has a minimum case length of one and sixteen-hundredths (1.16) inches, but is no longer than three (3) inches. (4) A hunter may not possess more than ten (10) cartridges for the rifle while hunting deer under this section. (5) The rifle must meet any other requirements established by the department. (c) The use of a full metal jacketed bullet to hunt deer is unlawful. (d) The department shall report on the impact of the use of rifles to hunt deer under this section to the governor and, in an electronic format under IC 5-14-6, the general assembly before February 15, 2020. (e) The department may adopt rules under IC 4-22-2 to authorize the use of rifles on public property. As added by P.L.110-2016, SEC.1. Amended by P.L.195-2017, SEC.7; P.L.39-2018, SEC.6; P.L.164-2020, SEC.53. So according to this, you can use 308 on public or federal land right? Or no? I was planning to use my 308 on public lands, but the way some things read, I’m not sure if it will be allowed, more specifically on the big oaks draw hunt. Not allowed on those scenarios.
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Post by duff on Oct 2, 2022 4:24:28 GMT -5
Not sure what the guide may say but here is the Code IC 14-22-2-8 IC 14-22-2-8 Deer hunting; permitted firearms; required report Sec. 8. (a) This section applies to a hunting season beginning after June 30, 2016. (b) A hunter may use a rifle to hunt deer on privately owned land subject to the following: (1) The use of a rifle is permitted during hunting seasons established by the department. (2) The rifle must be chambered for a cartridge that fires a bullet that is two hundred forty-three thousandths (.243) of an inch in diameter or larger. (3) The rifle must fire a cartridge that has a minimum case length of one and sixteen-hundredths (1.16) inches, but is no longer than three (3) inches. (4) A hunter may not possess more than ten (10) cartridges for the rifle while hunting deer under this section. (5) The rifle must meet any other requirements established by the department. (c) The use of a full metal jacketed bullet to hunt deer is unlawful. (d) The department shall report on the impact of the use of rifles to hunt deer under this section to the governor and, in an electronic format under IC 5-14-6, the general assembly before February 15, 2020. (e) The department may adopt rules under IC 4-22-2 to authorize the use of rifles on public property. As added by P.L.110-2016, SEC.1. Amended by P.L.195-2017, SEC.7; P.L.39-2018, SEC.6; P.L.164-2020, SEC.53. So according to this, you can use 308 on public or federal land right? Or no? I was planning to use my 308 on public lands, but the way some things read, I’m not sure if it will be allowed, more specifically on the big oaks draw hunt. Check with the property regs. Crane won't even let you hunt with pcr. It is still shotgun or smoke pole.
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Post by elmo on Oct 2, 2022 7:29:46 GMT -5
Hpr not allowed on big oaks. Cowboy guns, shotguns, and smoke poles are the extent of things that go bang.
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Post by greghopper on Oct 2, 2022 8:45:27 GMT -5
Hpr not allowed on big oaks. Cowboy guns, shotguns, and smoke poles are the extent of things that go bang. HPR are allowed just not the HP ammo ......ammo has to meet public land criteria.
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