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Post by greghopper on Jun 8, 2021 17:21:45 GMT -5
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Post by medic22 on Jun 8, 2021 18:22:39 GMT -5
By the time this gets to a court the vaccine will be fully approved and it will all be moot.
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Post by greghopper on Jun 8, 2021 18:27:31 GMT -5
By the time this gets to a court the vaccine will be fully approved and it will all be moot. I heard once there fully approved the military will mandate also.
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Post by jjas on Jun 8, 2021 19:29:00 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Jun 8, 2021 19:37:42 GMT -5
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Post by steiny on Jun 9, 2021 12:58:33 GMT -5
Pretty ridiculous forcing unwanted drugs on people that have no issues or fears.
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Post by jjas on Jun 9, 2021 13:06:28 GMT -5
I guarantee that just about everyone on this forum has had a vaccine for something along the way.
The link to the vaccines I posted before are a pretty full list required by today's public schools. Even @ the college level there are vaccines that students must have.
So why not just take this one too?
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 9, 2021 13:27:35 GMT -5
Pretty ridiculous forcing unwanted drugs on people that have no issues or fears. “It’s for the children!”
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Post by medic22 on Jun 9, 2021 13:37:54 GMT -5
I guarantee that just about everyone on this forum has had a vaccine for something along the way. The link to the vaccines I posted before are a pretty full list required by today's public schools. Even @ the college level there are vaccines that students must have. So why not just take this one too? The problem in my eyes (as someone that has been fully vaccinated for nearly 6 months), is this is not an FDA approved vaccine (EUA is not approval). Requiring unapproved vaccinations is a can of worms and it needs to be challenged. While I concur that the vaccine is safe and effective, many people are rightfully concerned about long term effects which have not been studied for obvious reasons.
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Post by freedomhunter on Jun 9, 2021 13:46:49 GMT -5
IU and IU health have just made themselves look like ridiculous communists.
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Post by jjas on Jun 9, 2021 14:17:47 GMT -5
I guarantee that just about everyone on this forum has had a vaccine for something along the way. The link to the vaccines I posted before are a pretty full list required by today's public schools. Even @ the college level there are vaccines that students must have. So why not just take this one too? The problem in my eyes (as someone that has been fully vaccinated for nearly 6 months), is this is not an FDA approved vaccine (EUA is not approval). Requiring unapproved vaccinations is a can of worms and it needs to be challenged. While I concur that the vaccine is safe and effective, many people are rightfully concerned about long term effects which have not been studied for obvious reasons. I would imagine that the same thing can be said of many of the vaccines we all took over the years. Nothing is perfect, nothing is without risk. But the vaccine does appear to be safe and effective.
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Jun 9, 2021 14:23:48 GMT -5
Time will tell. Some of us will know by end of next year. I have time to wait.
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Post by jjas on Jun 9, 2021 14:25:31 GMT -5
Time will tell. Some of us will know by end of next year. I have time to wait. So what will you know by the end of next year?
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Jun 9, 2021 14:28:56 GMT -5
Time will tell. Some of us will know by end of next year. I have time to wait. So what will you know by the end of next year? I already answered that.
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Post by jjas on Jun 9, 2021 14:30:50 GMT -5
So what will you know by the end of next year? I already answered that. I must have missed it. Perhaps you could humor me by reiterating what you may (or may not) know by the end of next year.
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Post by esshup on Jun 9, 2021 18:57:50 GMT -5
People complain that it takes way too long for the FDA to approve of a new medical procedure or drug all the time, and that it should be made available sooner. So now when that happens other people complain that it hasn't been approved. You can't have it both ways. If the FDA were to approve it quickly, and there were problems, then people would complain too.
Nothing is a guarantee in life. You make your choices and take your chances.
Both people and businesses have choices to make. In this case I'm siding with the hospital, if the people don't want to get vaccinated, then they can find another place to work - it's not like there are many job shortages in today's economy.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 9, 2021 20:23:18 GMT -5
People complain that it takes way too long for the FDA to approve of a new medical procedure or drug all the time, and that it should be made available sooner. So now when that happens other people complain that it hasn't been approved. You can't have it both ways. If the FDA were to approve it quickly, and there were problems, then people would complain too. Nothing is a guarantee in life. You make your choices and take your chances. Both people and businesses have choices to make. In this case I'm siding with the hospital, if the people don't want to get vaccinated, then they can find another place to work - it's not like there are many job shortages in today's economy. Truth... Being in the age group (and a little overweight) that are most seriously affected by this virus I could not wait to get that vaccination shot in my arm. The survival rate of slightly chubby 80+ individuals is not all that great. We got our first shot January 9th and our second on January 30th. Now IF I was in my 30s or 40s I might have passed on the shot..
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Post by parrothead on Jun 9, 2021 20:42:35 GMT -5
THere is a guy up the road from me that has several food trailers and goes to all the big events like Sturgis and Bike week in FL those type of things. He was at one and they were playing pickup basketball and he hurt his ankle thought maybe it was broke just and bad sprain, but he went to hospital to get it checked out. He gets home and his wife is looking though his paper work from the hospital and she says "You have to get out of this house" Of course he goes what? Again she says "Get out of the house?" He says "Why?" She goes this paper work says you have Covid. Well he never got tested for Covid. Hospital was just trying to get money from government. They are now trying to cover their butt and settle with him out of court.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 9, 2021 21:19:03 GMT -5
WOW!!
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Post by freedomhunter on Jun 9, 2021 21:26:40 GMT -5
My 71 year old father got a common intestinal infection and almost died of dehydration in the hospital because they kept testing him for covid over and over again. Finally he got the antibiotics he needed after they gave up getting the covid money. Tough old bird
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