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Post by BOBinIN on Jan 12, 2021 13:58:59 GMT -5
The Jacob Blake shooting was the recent incident where a man was shot at close range in the back, hit 7 times and lived. That's hard to believe... I'm not trying to be cold or unsympathetic but I have to ask if anyone has heard what caliber pistol the officer was using that preformed so poorly. How could a reasonable weapon fired that close be so ineffective? Anybody know?
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 12, 2021 14:37:32 GMT -5
From what I could find they were one of the departments the transitioned to a Gen 4 Glock. The only caliber authorized for an automatic in a back up weapon is a 40 S&W so I would assume the issued Glock is also in that caliber. Could not find what round they are using. The reality is unless you make a CNS hit a person is going to able to function for some amount of time-how long depends on exactly what damage was caused by the rounds. Could the rounds be under penetrative; possible. Could they just not have hit anything that would cause quicker incapacitation, sure. It ‘s not like the movies. To a fair extent in whatever time an individual has to react to being shot depends on their mindset. That is one thing that LFI1 goes to great lengths to demonstrate. One of their videos involves a perp who was shot twice in the chest with 12GA slugs; he ran 100yds before collapsing. He chose to flee in that time he could have chosen to fight or just lay down an expire.
Choose a reliable gun in a reasonable caliber that you shoot well. Load it with a reliable round that gives you 12-16” of penetration and keep shooting until you are no longer in danger.
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Post by firstwd on Jan 12, 2021 16:51:31 GMT -5
To me, this instance is all every person that has to shoot multiple rounds into somebody needs to reference when the question of "why so many" comes up. The vast majority of people who simply don't understand how physics works has had their education through one theatrical avenue or another.
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Post by esshup on Jan 12, 2021 20:02:39 GMT -5
From what I could find they were one of the departments the transitioned to a Gen 4 Glock. The only caliber authorized for an automatic in a back up weapon is a 40 S&W so I would assume the issued Glock is also in that caliber. Could not find what round they are using. The reality is unless you make a CNS hit a person is going to able to function for some amount of time-how long depends on exactly what damage was caused by the rounds. Could the rounds be under penetrative; possible. Could they just not have hit anything that would cause quicker incapacitation, sure. It ‘s not like the movies. To a fair extent in whatever time an individual has to react to being shot depends on their mindset. That is one thing that LFI1 goes to great lengths to demonstrate. One of their videos involves a perp who was shot twice in the chest with 12GA slugs; he ran 100yds before collapsing. He chose to flee in that time he could have chosen to fight or just lay down an expire. Choose a reliable gun in a reasonable caliber that you shoot well. Load it with a reliable round that gives you 12-16” of penetration and keep shooting until you are no longer in danger. I didn't think departments were issued automatic pistols, only semi-automatics?? There IS a difference, one being an NFA weapon, the other is not. |
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 13, 2021 12:32:57 GMT -5
You know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
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Post by esshup on Jan 13, 2021 14:51:12 GMT -5
You know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah I do, but unless we stay vigilant the anti's will say we have automatic weapons and they should be banned. The less ammo we give them the better. |
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 14, 2021 8:22:58 GMT -5
I think we are OK on this this site!
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