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Post by budd on Oct 29, 2020 11:01:42 GMT -5
I know sometimes there is no other options, but ive never seen a deer left overnight in the woods without having some spoilage.
Ive had maybe 15-20 head brought in over the last 15 years or so that were left overnight in the woods, i can usually smell it while unloading it from their vehicles. For sure while skinning it. Please let your processors know when you drop off, this way it dont hang any longer than necessary.
Have NEVER seen a bear salvageable when left overnight, have seen the fat actually bubbling on a big bear.
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Post by steiny on Oct 29, 2020 13:09:50 GMT -5
Not to mention, in most cases where I hunt the coyotes will get to them.
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 29, 2020 13:39:56 GMT -5
Just depends on temp's. and shot location. If in 40's should not be a issue unless gut shot then possibly lose some meat. Like Steiny I rarely leave over night as high predator population. IF a marginal hit I will wait 4-6 hours then recover. Think biggest mistake guys make is taking up tracking on marginal hit's and push deer. If not pushed wounded deer will lay down pretty quickly if not pushed has been my experience.
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Post by 36fan on Oct 29, 2020 16:35:05 GMT -5
Not to mention, in most cases where I hunt the coyotes will get to them. Last year I shot a doe right around sunset. I continued hunting for the next half hour, went back to get my truck and called a buddy who wanted an easy tracking job for his dog. The dog took about a minute to find it after he got there, which was a little less than two hours after I arrowed her ... and coyotes had already got to her and tore into the entrance wound. |
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Post by scrub-buster on Oct 29, 2020 17:57:58 GMT -5
I've never liked the idea of leaving them overnight. I did 1 time a couple years ago after a shot that was too far back. I found the deer about 100 yards away the next morning. It got down below freezing temps that night. I didn't lose any meat from spoilage or coyotes. It was a small deer and probably cooled off fairly quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 18:25:35 GMT -5
When Ladoga meats used to process deer, they told me there is a phenomenon they called bone sour meat. They said the heat that emanates from within the animal, specifically from the bones, will begin to spoil the meat from the inside out if left too long. If an animal was brought to them that had been left overnight, they would examine it with the hunter there, and decide whether they would cut it or not, because they wouldn`t charge someone to put foul meat on their plate.
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Post by budd on Oct 29, 2020 19:57:26 GMT -5
When Ladoga meats used to process deer, they told me there is a phenomenon they called bone sour meat. They said the heat that emanates from within the animal, specifically from the bones, will begin to spoil the meat from the inside out if left too long. If an animal was brought to them that had been left overnight, they would examine it with the hunter there, and decide whether they would cut it or not, because they wouldn`t charge someone to put foul meat on their plate. If i have my doubts about spoilage i will pop the hind quarter joint and examine the ball joint. Green i will pass on processing it. Have seen deer spoiled with the temps dropping down in the teens at night. Seen it to many times to believe otherwise. Have had people beg me to process them anyhow, i dont get their thought process. |
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Post by budd on Oct 29, 2020 19:58:26 GMT -5
When Ladoga meats used to process deer, they told me there is a phenomenon they called bone sour meat. They said the heat that emanates from within the animal, specifically from the bones, will begin to spoil the meat from the inside out if left too long. If an animal was brought to them that had been left overnight, they would examine it with the hunter there, and decide whether they would cut it or not, because they wouldn`t charge someone to put foul meat on their plate. If i have my doubts about spoilage i will pop the hind quarter joint and examine the ball joint. Green or dark grey i will pass on processing it. Have seen deer spoiled with the temps dropping down in the teens at night. Seen it to many times to believe otherwise. Have had people beg me to process them anyhow, i dont get their thought process. |
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Post by esshup on Oct 29, 2020 20:16:55 GMT -5
Just depends on temp's. and shot location. If in 40's should not be a issue unless gut shot then possibly lose some meat. Like Steiny I rarely leave over night as high predator population. IF a marginal hit I will wait 4-6 hours then recover. Think biggest mistake guys make is taking up tracking on marginal hit's and push deer. If not pushed wounded deer will lay down pretty quickly if not pushed has been my experience. I disagree. I've had a deer spoil with a thru and thru lung shot when the temps were right at 30°F. Snowing like heck. Lake effect storm. Shot the deer with less than 10 min of legal light left. Waited 30 min, lost track within 20 yds. Couldn't use a flashlight and see very far due to the heavy snow. Went back in the morning and found the deer not 80 yds away. It was under 6" snow and it was all bad. |
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Oct 29, 2020 20:20:43 GMT -5
Thinking back, I think I've only ever had one deer sit overnight. A doe shot in early October, probably 40* low. I processed it myself and ate the whole thing, if it was rotten I didn't notice.
Obviously not an ideal scenario though.
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Post by esshup on Oct 29, 2020 23:20:31 GMT -5
If i have my doubts about spoilage i will pop the hind quarter joint and examine the ball joint. Green or dark grey i will pass on processing it. Have seen deer spoiled with the temps dropping down in the teens at night. Seen it to many times to believe otherwise. Have had people beg me to process them anyhow, i dont get their thought process. The processor I take mine to can sniff and tell right away. He's honest. He will say "If it was mine I wouldn't waste my time" or "I might be able to salvage some of it". I've had to leave a couple overnight due to different scenarios (archery season) and none came thru without any spoilage. Never had that problem during gun or muzzleloader season, but then again they never run far if at all during those seasons. LOL |
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Post by titanium700 on Oct 29, 2020 23:40:36 GMT -5
Just depends on temp's. and shot location. If in 40's should not be a issue unless gut shot then possibly lose some meat. Like Steiny I rarely leave over night as high predator population. IF a marginal hit I will wait 4-6 hours then recover. Think biggest mistake guys make is taking up tracking on marginal hit's and push deer. If not pushed wounded deer will lay down pretty quickly if not pushed has been my experience. I disagree. I've had a deer spoil with a thru and thru lung shot when the temps were right at 30°F. Snowing like heck. Lake effect storm. Shot the deer with less than 10 min of legal light left. Waited 30 min, lost track within 20 yds. Couldn't use a flashlight and see very far due to the heavy snow. Went back in the morning and found the deer not 80 yds away. It was under 6" snow and it was all bad. Is it possible that the covering of snow acted like insulation? I think so. |
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Post by esshup on Oct 30, 2020 11:40:49 GMT -5
I disagree. I've had a deer spoil with a thru and thru lung shot when the temps were right at 30°F. Snowing like heck. Lake effect storm. Shot the deer with less than 10 min of legal light left. Waited 30 min, lost track within 20 yds. Couldn't use a flashlight and see very far due to the heavy snow. Went back in the morning and found the deer not 80 yds away. It was under 6" snow and it was all bad. Is it possible that the covering of snow acted like insulation? I think so. Between the deer hair and the snow, yes. |
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