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Post by teenhunter00 on Sept 30, 2020 16:15:44 GMT -5
I am now an official private land hunter!!!! I was able to gain permission from a family who owns a vineyard and also does garden and has a pumbkin patch. It is a small parcel only 25 acres and it is surrounded by fields corn and soybeans. This property along with the surrounding ones do not have any pressure what so ever! It is some of the only timber in the area and also has a ton grasses and under brush. There is a small river that cuts right through the property too. I scouted for just under an hour a few days ago once I got done with class and I found 3 fresh rubs 4 fresh scrapes and tons of great deer sign. The property owner requests that I only use my bow and that she does not want to even know that I am there so my tree stand locations have to sneaky and hard to spot. But there are tons of great buck sign I currently have cameras set up and I am doing some more scouting and I want to get an idea of how many deer have set up shop in this area. I will post pictures from onx and from my phone here in a bit! I was given full permission to do whatever it takes and manage the deer how I see fit... so with that being said I have zero knowledge of how to set up this little hidden gem. Sorry for the long post I am really excited its only 20 minutes away from my house and I am pumped! Any advice on how to go about managing a new property is welcome
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 16:22:23 GMT -5
I am now an official private land hunter!!!! I was able to gain permission from a family who owns a vineyard and also does garden and has a pumbkin patch. It is a small parcel only 25 acres and it is surrounded by fields corn and soybeans. This property along with the surrounding ones do not have any pressure what so ever! It is some of the only timber in the area and also has a ton grasses and under brush. There is a small river that cuts right through the property too. I scouted for just under an hour a few days ago once I got done with class and I found 3 fresh rubs 4 fresh scrapes and tons of great deer sign. The property owner requests that I only use my bow and that she does not want to even know that I am there so my tree stand locations have to sneaky and hard to spot. But there are tons of great buck sign I currently have cameras set up and I am doing some more scouting and I want to get an idea of how many deer have set up shop in this area. I will post pictures from onx and from my phone here in a bit! I was given full permission to do whatever it takes and manage the deer how I see fit... so with that being said I have zero knowledge of how to set up this little hidden gem. Sorry for the long post I am really excited its only 20 minutes away from my house and I am pumped! Any advice on how to go about managing a new property is welcome I wouldn`t say "only" 25 acres! Neither of the farms I hunt have woods anywhere near that many acres. That`s a big enough patch of woods that deer likely bed in the brushy areas you`ve seen and if you`re careful to not disturb them in their beds, you may have phenomenal hunting catching them leaving, or coming to bed. CONGRATULATIONS on your fantastic good fortune. Now you just have to determine the proper stand locations! |
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Post by drfleck on Sept 30, 2020 16:25:00 GMT -5
Congratulations on your good fortune. Is there an observation point you might be able to sit back and watch without going back on the property? Get a better idea how the deer are using it without leaving scent all over the place. Probably what I would do. If you can be patient it might be worth waiting until November to hunt it. Then id put my stands up this winter after season based on what I observed this fall. 25 acres isnt much and wont take much pressure to alert the deer. Be mindful of access and exit routes. Good luck
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Post by teenhunter00 on Sept 30, 2020 17:02:19 GMT -5
Congratulations on your good fortune. Is there an observation point you might be able to sit back and watch without going back on the property? Get a better idea how the deer are using it without leaving scent all over the place. Probably what I would do. If you can be patient it might be worth waiting until November to hunt it. Then id put my stands up this winter after season based on what I observed this fall. 25 acres isnt much and wont take much pressure to alert the deer. Be mindful of access and exit routes. Good luck That is my main concern. I don't want to spook them but its just so thick on the edges that you can't really see into it until you get like 15 ft in. I don't want to walk in too far for my tree stands cause there is an old property fence( that isn't the boundary) but would just make a ton of noise to get over. I want to develop it a bit, the deer are used to cars and atvs going through the property and people wandering around for the most part. I like the idea of holding off until November though! I have to remember that I don't really have anyone to compete with this year haha Thanks for the advice!! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 17:05:52 GMT -5
Congratulations on your good fortune. Is there an observation point you might be able to sit back and watch without going back on the property? Get a better idea how the deer are using it without leaving scent all over the place. Probably what I would do. If you can be patient it might be worth waiting until November to hunt it. Then id put my stands up this winter after season based on what I observed this fall. 25 acres isnt much and wont take much pressure to alert the deer. Be mindful of access and exit routes. Good luck That is my main concern. I don't want to spook them but its just so thick on the edges that you can't really see into it until you get like 15 ft in. I don't want to walk in too far for my tree stands cause there is an old property fence( that isn't the boundary) but would just make a ton of noise to get over. I want to develop it a bit, the deer are used to cars and atvs going through the property and people wandering around for the most part. I like the idea of holding off until November though! I have to remember that I don't really have anyone to compete with this year haha Thanks for the advice!! Something else you might want to consider; a buddy and I, on one of the farms I hunt, rented a brush mower several seasons and went in and mowed lanes in through the really thick stuff, and in some cases, right up to our stands. We had easier, quieter access, and, incidentally, the deer used those mowed paths too... |
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Post by SFC (R) B on Sept 30, 2020 17:18:17 GMT -5
Congratulations!! There is a youtube channel I follow called Kapper Outdoors (he has places in IL and KY) and he does a lot of work on his properties. Might be worth checking it out and scaling down to your needs.
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Post by firstwd on Sept 30, 2020 20:22:56 GMT -5
Just make sure you have permission to do field/woods work before you start cutting or mowing anything. It would be awful to lose such a place because you mowed some trails.
The deer have all the food they will ever need there. Cover and security are the important factors to manage.
As for advice, they make a living off that land and deer put a dent in that living. Don't be holding out for a monster buck. If the numbers are where I imagine them, take the opportunity to shoot a doe or three and maybe save some grapes and pumpkins.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 20:28:20 GMT -5
Congrats. Like Gregr said, 25 acres is great. I hunt 3 to 5 acre home lots. I do have three in the row on one side and 2 in row on my side of the private drive. The challenge makes the reward even better.
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Post by esshup on Sept 30, 2020 20:49:23 GMT -5
I agree, talk to them about how many deer they want removed from the property and do just that. Their property, their rules, if you abide by them they will want you to keep coming back.
With that said, pay attention to the wind and hunt the wind. If people are walking around in there, then I would get to scouting asap and not worry too much about your scent. If you use a climber, nobody will know you are there.
Find out from them where the people walk, and when the most traffic is, and avoid that time of day/week to hunt.
Also ask them about field dressing the deer, or do they want you to take it out whole? Again, their property, their rules.
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 1, 2020 4:42:31 GMT -5
My first private land was only 3 acres of woods. I shot my first deer on that.
Congratulations and good luck on your new piece of property! Treat the land owner well and respect the hopefully it'll be yours for a very long time.
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Post by saltydog on Oct 1, 2020 5:29:03 GMT -5
Congratulations...... My advise for what its worth, stay in touch with the land owner, treat it like its yours, Treat it as if you could lose the privilege of hunting it tomorrow.
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 1, 2020 5:34:26 GMT -5
Congratulations...... My advise for what its worth, stay in touch with the land owner, treat it like its yours, Treat it as if you could lose the privilege of hunting it tomorrow. Great advice! |
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Post by teenhunter00 on Oct 1, 2020 7:17:54 GMT -5
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all the advice! I know I'll have more questions in the future and its great to know I have a place to ask
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Post by steiny on Oct 1, 2020 8:45:31 GMT -5
Biggest problem with bow hunting small acreages is that it is not unusual for a arrow hit deer to leave the property and wind up on the neighbors. Make plans for that in advance and do your best to make really good hits to lessen the odds of such.
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Post by featherduster on Oct 1, 2020 9:12:18 GMT -5
Weather you are able to harvest a deer or not tread lightly, respect the owners requests, come and go quietly and don't forget them at Christmas with nice gift and don't make it deer meat.
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Post by medic22 on Oct 1, 2020 9:20:50 GMT -5
Congratulations on your good fortune. Is there an observation point you might be able to sit back and watch without going back on the property? Get a better idea how the deer are using it without leaving scent all over the place. Probably what I would do. If you can be patient it might be worth waiting until November to hunt it. Then id put my stands up this winter after season based on what I observed this fall. 25 acres isnt much and wont take much pressure to alert the deer. Be mindful of access and exit routes. Good luck That is my main concern. I don't want to spook them but its just so thick on the edges that you can't really see into it until you get like 15 ft in. I don't want to walk in too far for my tree stands cause there is an old property fence( that isn't the boundary) but would just make a ton of noise to get over. I want to develop it a bit, the deer are used to cars and atvs going through the property and people wandering around for the most part. I like the idea of holding off until November though! I have to remember that I don't really have anyone to compete with this year haha Thanks for the advice!! If there are any low spots or breaks in the fence, set up there. |
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Post by esshup on Oct 1, 2020 11:18:00 GMT -5
Biggest problem with bow hunting small acreages is that it is not unusual for a arrow hit deer to leave the property and wind up on the neighbors. Make plans for that in advance and do your best to make really good hits to lessen the odds of such. Good point. Now might be the time to knock on the neighbors doors and ask for permission to retrieve a deer on their property. Better now than 9pm at night..... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 11:24:40 GMT -5
Biggest problem with bow hunting small acreages is that it is not unusual for a arrow hit deer to leave the property and wind up on the neighbors. Make plans for that in advance and do your best to make really good hits to lessen the odds of such. Good point. Now might be the time to knock on the neighbors doors and ask for permission to retrieve a deer on their property. Better now than 9pm at night..... That's great advice and heads up. That is what I've done in my neighborhood. I have permission on all but one. That one will let me retrieve, but not hunt on it. If the deer runs more than my guess 400 yards then it's an issue. I will only take double lung shots parallel or slight angle away. Never seen one run over 200 yards. |
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Post by hooterhunter on Oct 2, 2020 5:03:23 GMT -5
Congratulations. Great score before season.
I had a similar situation and request awhile back. I would assume the owner isn’t a huge fan of hunting but due to damage feels it to be a last resort to allow you in their land. You mentioned she doesn’t want to know you are there and try hard to respect that. She doesn’t want to admit she has allowed a hunter on her property. Non hunters don’t understand our love and thrill of the hunt. This site is safe but I wouldn’t post pictures of kills on Facebook type sites. The owner might find this odd and disrespectful to their property. I know it sounds weird. I would also encourage you to never have a deer exposed for others to see when on or leaving the property after a harvest. It just takes one crying heart to share their opinion with owner that sees these deer as other than edibles and you are out. Also go out of your way to donate a deer to the local food bank. After you have done this share how it helps feed the hungry in the community and thank her for giving you the opportunity provide to this wonderful program. Never........I mean never, take a questionable shot. If you lose one and the owner finds it or worse a neighbor.....you are done.
But have fun! Sounds like you found a gem.
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Post by 36fan on Oct 2, 2020 7:11:05 GMT -5
Congratulations on your good fortune. Is there an observation point you might be able to sit back and watch without going back on the property? Get a better idea how the deer are using it without leaving scent all over the place. Probably what I would do. If you can be patient it might be worth waiting until November to hunt it. Then id put my stands up this winter after season based on what I observed this fall. 25 acres isnt much and wont take much pressure to alert the deer. Be mindful of access and exit routes. Good luck If the owner doesn't want to know you are there, I would recommend putting up your stands shortly before season starts, and then take them down soon after the season is over. Use the winter to scout locations and figure out where to put up stands, but don't put them up and leave them all year. |
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