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Post by oldhoyt on Sept 30, 2020 8:06:30 GMT -5
I saw an e-mail from Tenpoint that talked about your crossbow hitting high when shot from your treestand as opposed to on level ground, where most guys do their practicing. They gave the typical rationale for this - gravity acts on the arrow over the horizontal distance to the target and not the actual distance traveled by the arrow. That makes sense and is true. But to get an idea of just how much difference would typically be encountered, I used 8 yards for the height of the shot and 40 yards for the horizontal distance to the target. The distance traveled by the arrow is about 40.8 yards. That's not enough to compensate for by adjusting your aiming point. And of course, for distances under than 40 yards, the difference is even less.
What this shows me is that the actual real reasons people don't hit deer where they want to are misjudging yardage, aiming incorrectly, deer jumping the arrow and plain old poor execution of the shot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 8:24:35 GMT -5
Basic triangulation of ABC, but gravity gets in the way, then deer movement gets in the way, and then shot placement gets in the way and one more thing gets in the way; the hill sloping up or down. Is the deer equal, below or above my stand at time of placement? Good thing most archery shots are under 40 yards.
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 30, 2020 8:52:39 GMT -5
We tend to overthink our shots at deer. Know the distance and shoot your shot. Aim at the spot you want to hit (with the arrow exit in mind) and shoot.
There is no reason to think the Shot will be high shooting from a 20 foot elevation at a deer 40 yards away.
Where vertical bow hunters get in trouble is not bending at the waist to make the shot. That changes anchor and can cause you to hit high.
No such a problem with crossbows.
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Post by luckyhounddog on Sept 30, 2020 8:53:01 GMT -5
One thing I have noticed with my wife and kids when they started practicing from elevation... They would hit high. After sitting in the buddy stand in the back yard and shooting at the 3d deer, I figured out why. They were changing the spot that the buttstock met their shoulder. Trying to get the red dot on target without moving their front arms. At times it was almost in their armpit. Thus, the relationship between their shoulder and face were not the same as on the ground. I told them to think of it as anchor points on their compounds. The buttstock has to meet your shoulder and cheek in the same place Everytime. Otherwise you can get some parallax error with those sights.
Maybe what some others are experiencing.
There's a metal sight pin out by the stirrup on my wife's old Horton. I tell her to line the tip of it up with the red/green dot. It works really well for her. The kids use a different bow with a multiple cross hair reticle. No issues there once form was corrected.
Happy hunting!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 9:04:11 GMT -5
We should also practice sitting and standing. This can also change the anchor spot and other little things.
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 30, 2020 10:26:10 GMT -5
Spot on Woody
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Post by jman46151 on Sept 30, 2020 11:11:39 GMT -5
We tend to overthink our shots at deer. Know the distance and shoot your shot. Aim at the spot you want to hit (with the arrow exit in mind) and shoot. There is no reason to think the Shot will be high shooting from a 20 foot elevation at a deer 40 yards away.
Where vertical bow hunters get in trouble is not bending at the waist to make the shot. That changes anchor and can cause you to hit high. No such a problem with crossbows. I used to be guilty of this. I spined a doe once and this was my problem. Now when it gets closer to season I start practicing off of my second story deck to keep it under control. |
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