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Post by scrub-buster on Sept 7, 2020 18:42:06 GMT -5
I mow the small field behind my house every time I mow the yard. I was thinking about planting some trees there for the deer. Persimmon and white oak are what I have in mind but I'm open to other suggestions. I guess I'll wait until spring to plant them. Anyone on here have experience with this sort of project? I have no idea of spacing or alternating species. I don't want anything close enough that it could ever fall on the house during a storm. I'd rather not have my gutters full of leaves either. I've attached a few pictures of where I'm thinking about planting them. The fence line has been removed since this picture was taken. The blue circle area is where I want to plant them. I will still mow the areas around the trees. I like having it cleaned up. It used to be an overgrown hay field full of thorns.  This picture is zoomed out a little more. I have the pond circled. I have cut a trail from the edge of the field straight down the hill to the pond. The deer use it a lot now. Our woods are so tangled with fallen ash trees it's hard for them to move around. I've been cutting trails so they travel where I want them too. I have a good potential stand site at the top of that trail.  |
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Post by ukwil on Sept 7, 2020 18:45:40 GMT -5
I'd go with persimmons, apples, pears, or even chestnuts. Ive always been told and read fsll is the best time to plant due to the fact the tree will put all its efforts into its root system versus trying to leaf out.
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Post by bullseye69 on Sept 7, 2020 18:54:58 GMT -5
I'd go with persimmons, apples, pears, or even chestnuts. Ive always been told and read fsll is the best time to plant due to the fact the tree will put all its efforts into its root system versus trying to leaf out. Its also better to plant in the fall because the ground will be wetter in the spring when its wanting to sprout leaves so it kinda gives you a head start on the watering. |
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Post by scrub-buster on Sept 7, 2020 18:58:15 GMT -5
I'd go with persimmons, apples, pears, or even chestnuts. Ive always been told and read fsll is the best time to plant due to the fact the tree will put all its efforts into its root system versus trying to leaf out. What kind of maintenance do fruit trees need? |
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Post by scrub-buster on Sept 7, 2020 18:58:55 GMT -5
Another question, where is a good place to order trees from?
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Post by bullseye69 on Sept 7, 2020 19:09:21 GMT -5
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Post by parrothead on Sept 7, 2020 19:20:27 GMT -5
I planted 500 persimmon trees over 5 years from state. I got another 20 from Stark Bro. I probably have 50 chestnuts some I started from seeds other from Stark Bro.
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Post by scrub-buster on Sept 7, 2020 19:58:28 GMT -5
I went to that website but it said to return on October 1st to order trees. |
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Post by gumbootbill on Sept 7, 2020 19:58:48 GMT -5
Chestnuts, pears, apples, persimmon. I tried to plant what the neighbors don't.
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Post by scrub-buster on Sept 7, 2020 19:58:57 GMT -5
I planted 500 persimmon trees over 5 years from state. I got another 20 from Stark Bro. I probably have 50 chestnuts some I started from seeds other from Stark Bro. What is the cost per tree? |
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Post by parrothead on Sept 7, 2020 20:08:40 GMT -5
Persimmon were like 35 bucks per 50 dont hold me to that but it was around there. Stark Bro are more but have free one year replacement too.
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Post by scrub-buster on Sept 7, 2020 20:13:00 GMT -5
Persimmon were like 35 bucks per 50 dont hold me to that but it was around there. Stark Bro are more but have free one year replacement too. Thanks! |
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Post by ukwil on Sept 7, 2020 20:20:07 GMT -5
I'd go with persimmons, apples, pears, or even chestnuts. Ive always been told and read fsll is the best time to plant due to the fact the tree will put all its efforts into its root system versus trying to leaf out. What kind of maintenance do fruit trees need? The apples might need some pruning but I'd think thats about it. I know Rural King up here has the Dunstan Chestnuts for like 30$ a piece but they are like 6 to 8 ft trees. |
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Post by bullseye69 on Sept 7, 2020 21:02:51 GMT -5
I went to that website but it said to return on October 1st to order trees. Ya you can order from Oct 1st 2020 to March 1st 2021 but you need to order as soon as you can so supplies don't run out. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 6:21:07 GMT -5
I mow the small field behind my house every time I mow the yard. I was thinking about planting some trees there for the deer. Persimmon and white oak are what I have in mind but I'm open to other suggestions. I guess I'll wait until spring to plant them. Anyone on here have experience with this sort of project? I have no idea of spacing or alternating species. I don't want anything close enough that it could ever fall on the house during a storm. I'd rather not have my gutters full of leaves either. I've attached a few pictures of where I'm thinking about planting them. The fence line has been removed since this picture was taken. The blue circle area is where I want to plant them. I will still mow the areas around the trees. I like having it cleaned up. It used to be an overgrown hay field full of thorns. This picture is zoomed out a little more. I have the pond circled. I have cut a trail from the edge of the field straight down the hill to the pond. The deer use it a lot now. Our woods are so tangled with fallen ash trees it's hard for them to move around. I've been cutting trails so they travel where I want them too. I have a good potential stand site at the top of that trail. I would add in a few Reds with the white oaks. Once every 4-10 years for white acorns. I do know they always have a few each year. Pear trees are good and the pears sit on the ground a good long time into deer season. |
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Post by hornzilla on Sept 8, 2020 7:35:36 GMT -5
Crabapple and pears require a lot less maintenance than regular apple. I have planted both as well as persimmon trees
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 8, 2020 11:50:24 GMT -5
Little reminder that the actual cost of the tree is not the cost of it. Let me explain.
Survival of a tree depends on a plethora of things, but the one we can control is pressure from critters and their mouths. I order less trees now than I used to, but spend more than I used to. Why? Fencing materials.
Now don't get me wrong I grab free posts and any kind of fence, but proper fencing - using solid metal posts or actual treated posts with tall 4 foot minimum (prefer 5) heavy fences that no animal can mess with it is WELL WORTH THEIR COST. The only thing that can take the tree out then is if weather doesn't cooperate or disease hits - but one can haul water, and one can spray for diseases.
Stark Bros has been very good to me over the years for a specific mention of a source, but I've bought from state nurseries, Lowes...even Walmart over the years. Proper protection is the CRUCIAL aspect to ensuring the investment is worth it.
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Post by Russ Koon on Sept 8, 2020 12:21:35 GMT -5
I used to make it point to visit a couple of pear trees on the Camp Atterbury property when I hunted there, more just for fun than to actually hunt over them, as they were in the open and everyone else knew about them, too. They always showed plenty of sign of deer visits.
You might want to also consider hazelnut bushes. Our conservation club planted thirty or so of them about seven years ago and they all survived and thrived. I can't recall how long it took to produce nuts, but it seemed pretty quick, maybe two or three years? I've never checked the leaves/twigs for browsing, but have watched the snow for tracks have seen a good bit of activity in late season. The squirrels are enjoying them right now, but there are plenty of nuts to go around, even when some of us members gather a hatful once in a while to take home. They have never needed anything after planting. Might be another option.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Sept 8, 2020 15:07:08 GMT -5
Another option to consider is clover or osts or something of that nature. If you plant trees you have to either maintain them, mow around them, and or let the woods take over the spot. It seems you have plenty of trees surrounding your property adding oak or hickory doesn't seem like you'd be adding much that they don't already have. My point is clover could be a great way to attract and feed deer and be easily maintained. But if trees are what you want I'd go with a few varieties of apple pair peach and cherry. I love to grill and smoke meat, it could be a flavorful supply of fruit wood for the grill if you save the trimmings.
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Post by scrub-buster on Sept 8, 2020 16:43:08 GMT -5
Another option to consider is clover or osts or something of that nature. If you plant trees you have to either maintain them, mow around them, and or let the woods take over the spot. It seems you have plenty of trees surrounding your property adding oak or hickory doesn't seem like you'd be adding much that they don't already have. My point is clover could be a great way to attract and feed deer and be easily maintained. But if trees are what you want I'd go with a few varieties of apple pair peach and cherry. I love to grill and smoke meat, it could be a flavorful supply of fruit wood for the grill if you save the trimmings. We already have a lot of clover and I plan on planting more next year. We have red oak and chinkapin oak. I wanted something different for them to eat. I will mow around the trees and keep the area trimmed. |
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