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Post by harmonist34 on Aug 31, 2020 21:25:05 GMT -5
I'm reading through the annual report (http://www.state.in.us/dnr/fishwild/files/fw-DeerSummaryReport_2019.pdf). I'm in Indy, and I guess I've always thought you have to go south for good hunting. But looking at the numbers of deer harvested and deer collisions, Noble and some of the other northern counties have really high numbers.
Anybody hunt in Noble or surrounding counties? Is it mostly agriculture land with small wood lots? Assume pretty dead flat?
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Post by onebentarrow on Sept 1, 2020 3:38:51 GMT -5
I'm reading through the annual report (http://www.state.in.us/dnr/fishwild/files/fw-DeerSummaryReport_2019.pdf). I'm in Indy, and I guess I've always thought you have to go south for good hunting. But looking at the numbers of deer harvested and deer collisions, Noble and some of the other northern counties have really high numbers.
Anybody hunt in Noble or surrounding counties? Is it mostly agriculture land with small wood lots? Assume pretty dead flat?
Lot of lakes,lot of woods and some hills(not like southern indiana hills) The land up here is funny, you have large aeras of farming with small woods then large areas with small farming and large tracks of woods. And most of the large ag aeras are cut in 1 sq mile sections with the large wooded areas being 2 to 8 sq mile chunks. It is also mostly private and supper hard to get permission. Either they have hunters or they do not allow hunting. I have knocked on tons of doors only to be turned away or yelled at. Just acc the road from me is a some what rectangular 4 sq mi block.3 brothers own 840 acres of it and only trophy hunt (no other hunters allowed and no does killed)there is 40 acres of wildlife habitat (no hunting) 90 acres a sawmill owned with no hunting an 80 acre that is leased for hunting. This area is over run with deer. My buddy and I drove around that section one Jan. evening and counted over 100 deer we could see in the fue fields and wood edge.other than the lease I think there is only 1 (150ish acre) farm that is hunted. That is the way most areas are up here. I have permission on a small area 30 miles from here in a farming area and if I see deer 1 out of 3 sits I think I am doing good. It is either feast or famine with deer here and mostly no access. I do wish I had access whre I could be some what selective but if I want to put meet in the freezer I have to take what ever gives me the good shot opportunity and as for bucks I have ran cameras for 4 years and only had 1 buck on camera that would exceed 120 in and only 1 time Onebentarrow
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Post by harmonist34 on Sept 1, 2020 7:26:58 GMT -5
That's great intel, Onebentarrow - thanks! Always comes back to access and permission, doesn't it?
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Post by jman46151 on Sept 1, 2020 7:56:01 GMT -5
About 10 years ago I had a framer working for me who lived in NE Indiana. He said that they taught their granddaughter to count by going out and counting deer in the evening. He said they had her counting to 45-50 regularly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 8:52:22 GMT -5
When I hunted north of Fort Wayne I saw a lot of deer. The hardest part was visibility of me to the deer. Trying to get in without the deer knowing. It seemed the deer knew where to stay to see all around them. Tactics are totally different to hunt the flat to slight slow rolling to hilly steep hills.
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Post by subzero350 on Sept 1, 2020 18:09:50 GMT -5
I have family on a lake in Noble Co. (I live next to Noble in DeKalb Co.). What Onebentarrow said is true about this part of the state - lots of deer, great deer habitat (water+food+cover) but 99% of it is private land and no one grants permission.
There are a few DNR properties up here you can hunt on but they get crowded quickly. Check out:
Pigeon River Fish and Wildlife Area Mallard Roost Wetland Conservation Area Eagle Lake Wetland Conservation Area Whirledge Wetland Conservation Area
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Post by harmonist34 on Sept 1, 2020 22:11:21 GMT -5
Thanks, all - this is very helpful!
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Post by subzero350 on Sept 2, 2020 15:51:58 GMT -5
Further information about the terrain up here: Noble co. is mostly flat with a few hills here and there with many lakes and streams.
The southern part of DeKalb co. is mostly flat while the northern half gets pretty hilly; DeKalb county has few lakes but still lots of water sources (ponds, streams, county ditches, etc).
Steuben co. is even more hilly (in areas) and seems to have more woods and lakes.
I forgot to mention Huntington co. where I have also hunted (it is just south of Allen co. & Fort Wayne). It is hilly and has 2 large public hunting properties:
-J. E. Roush Lake Fish and Wildlife Area -Salamonie Lake
I've hunted both public and private land in this area of the state. Deer behavior can be best described by saying if a given property isn't frequented by humans - the deer tend to be very skittish. Opposite is true where deer and humans live in close proximity, year-round.
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Post by 36fan on Sept 4, 2020 7:26:14 GMT -5
I talked to someone from DNR about the state park hunts several years ago. He was telling me most of the parks they can get the herd size down to about what they want ... except in northern Indiana. I believe we were discussing Chain O' Lakes SP in Noble County that we were specifically discussing, and he said he didn't think they would ever be able to get the herd size down to the desired density. The habitat is just too good.
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Post by subzero350 on Sept 16, 2020 20:11:47 GMT -5
I talked to someone from DNR about the state park hunts several years ago. He was telling me most of the parks they can get the herd size down to about what they want ... except in northern Indiana. I believe we were discussing Chain O' Lakes SP in Noble County that we were specifically discussing, and he said he didn't think they would ever be able to get the herd size down to the desired density. The habitat is just too good. Drive by there all the time, never been in it though... I know you have to put in for a draw hunt to be able to hunt deer on it. Friend of mine got drawn to hunt it 9 out of the last 10 years and he always gets a deer when he hunts there. Plenty of woods and water on the property - and corn/bean fields right across the street if the deer get hungry.
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Post by esshup on Sept 17, 2020 3:04:41 GMT -5
In the state parks up here the invasives (Russian Olive, etc) get so thick that the only way to get through them is on your hands and knees. A few areas that were great hunting 10-15 years ago where you could see 100-150 yds are so dense now you might be able to see 20 yds. Not good when there are 6-10 deer trails going past the stand within the 100-150 yds.
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Post by stevein on Sept 17, 2020 7:24:20 GMT -5
There are a lot of deer in the Chain-o-Lakes but not like they used to have. Numbers are way down. Like everywhere the does have been hammered. Before the hunts I used it as a good place to break hounds from running deer. It was easy to just cruise the park on a day with snow and put a beagle on 5 to 10 bedded deer. The traffic around the park was heavy in the late winter with people going up to see the yard deer. It was not uncommon to see a 40 acre field covered in deer. I think some of the thick areas are due to not having the deer to clean them up.
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