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Post by moose1am on Dec 31, 2019 10:48:40 GMT -5
The USA should shoot these people when they attack USA property. Remember when the Iranians attacked the US Embassy in Iran? They took and held our diplomates for almost a year. This must never be repeated. We should never allow anyone to invade our embassies which are sovereign US soil.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 11:23:46 GMT -5
The USA should shoot these people when they attack USA property. Remember when the Iranians attacked the US Embassy in Iran? They took and held our diplomates for almost a year. This must never be repeated. We should never allow anyone to invade our embassies which are sovereign US soil. Remember when Carter was in office and iran scoffed at the United States? But, just before Reagan took office, the iranian regime released the hostages, knowing that the weak, ineffective president was to quickly be replaced by someone with the conviction and intestinal fortitude to do whatever had to be done to get our people back. Then consider the more recent Benghazi embarrassment, in which demon-crats allowed a U.S. Ambassador to be brutalized and murdered, and left American hero`s to die at the hands of terrorists. Then, Susan Rice made the talk show rounds attempting to spin the lie that the attacks were due to a YouTube video that had enraged muslims, (as though that would have been ok), when the truth was, the attacks were premeditated by al-Qaeda, which U.S. intelligence has been aware of, but the Hussein obama regime for unspoken reasons, decided not to defend against. Not only was that administration complicit in the deaths of four U.S. citizens, but tried to cover it all up, with perhaps the final insult being, then Secretary of State, klinton screeching: "What difference does it make"? A terribly sad chapter in U.S. history. And I agree with you entirely, since it is an act of war to attack an embassy, and if there are no consequences, that opens the door to further escalation.
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Post by moose1am on Dec 31, 2019 12:17:26 GMT -5
I remember it all to well. Over 100 days of confinement of our US Diplomats in Iran which ed me off big time. We should have bombed the Hell out of the Iranian Leader and taken out anyone else that got in our way. That is the militant in me I guess. What did Trump do when Iran put mines on this (oil tankers) in the Persian Gulf? Or what did we do when Iran shot down a million-dollar Global Hawk USA Drone which was flying over the Persian Gulf? What did we do when Iran attacked Saudi Arabia's Oil Complex? I'm glad that we finally attacked the Iranian Militia in Iraq and Syria with missiles from aircraft recently. We need to do more of that. That is what caused the Militias to attack our USA Embassy in Bagdad in the Green Zone in Iraq. The Iraqi military didn't do anything to break up the crowds and fled the scene. What should Trump do with the Iraqis?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 12:19:27 GMT -5
I remember it all to well. Over 100 days of confinement of our US Diplomats in Iran which ed me off big time. We should have bombed the Hell out of the Iranian Leader and taken out anyone else that got in our way. That is the militant in me I guess. What did Trump do when Iran put mines on this (oil tankers) in the Persian Gulf? Or what did we do when Iran shot down a million-dollar Global Hawk USA Drone which was flying over the Persian Gulf? What did we do when Iran attacked Saudi Arabia's Oil Complex? I'm glad that we finally attacked the Iranian Militia in Iraq and Syria with missiles from aircraft recently. We need to do more of that. That is what caused the Militias to attack our USA Embassy in Bagdad in the Green Zone in Iraq. The Iraqi military didn't do anything to break up the crowds and fled the scene. What should Trump do with the Iraqis? I guess i`m a "war hawk", because i feel force has to be met with not force, but overwhelming force...
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Post by greghopper on Jan 1, 2020 8:09:34 GMT -5
The USA should shoot these people when they attack USA property. Remember when the Iranians attacked the US Embassy in Iran? They took and held our diplomates for almost a year. This must never be repeated. We should never allow anyone to invade our embassies which are sovereign US soil. Until the get into the compound the use of force should not be used!
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Post by moose1am on Jan 1, 2020 11:18:11 GMT -5
The USA should shoot these people when they attack USA property. Remember when the Iranians attacked the US Embassy in Iran? They took and held our diplomates for almost a year. This must never be repeated. We should never allow anyone to invade our embassies which are sovereign US soil. Until the get into the compound the use of force should not be used! By the time they get into the compound? You do realize how large the US Embassy Compound it. it's the size of the Vatican. It's huge. Any vioence inside the Green Zone should be stopped immediately and the leaders of the protests should be arrested and jailed. I don't know how old you are or if you were around in 1979 when the Iranians overtook our US Embassy in Iran. That should never be allowed to reoccur.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 1, 2020 11:28:22 GMT -5
Looks like the security walls and doors are holding them at bay outside the compound!
So you want the people outside protesting outside the wall fired up on and displaced?
BTW.... big difference in stopping and arresting then “shoot these people” that you first stated!
IMO... “shoot these people” is the type of force that shouldn't happen outside the security walls...inside yes.
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Post by moose1am on Jan 1, 2020 12:19:36 GMT -5
Looks like the security walls and doors are holding them at bay outside the compound! So you want the people outside protesting outside the wall fired up on and displaced? BTW.... big difference in stopping and arresting then “shoot these people” that you first stated! IMO... “shoot these people” is the type of force that shouldn't happen outside the security walls...inside yes. You are inferring something that I didn't say. I said shoot them but I didn't say shoot them outside the compound. They are shooting them with rubber bullets and tear gas which worked to some extent. Now if they get inside the compound as some did then it times to start shooting them with real bullets. The point is to stop them from getting to our diplomates and personnel inside the embassy. They did that before 40 years ago and we did NOTHING to stop them back then. We can't let that happen again. We need to show the entire world that we should not be messed with. I have no qualms about shooting those ragheads over there. There is a reason why Saddam had to use excessive force to control the people in Iraq. That is what they respond to. Fear. They run out of control without someone who's strong and controls them. We were wrong to invade Iraq. We should have left Saddam in power as he kept the Iranians at bay. Now without Saddam Iran has taken over Iraq without firing a shot. You do realize that most of those in Iraq who are in power are not Sunni Muslim's anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 12:21:55 GMT -5
Until the get into the compound the use of force should not be used! By the time they get into the compound? You do realize how large the US Embassy Compound it. it's the size of the Vatican. It's huge. Any vioence inside the Green Zone should be stopped immediately and the leaders of the protests should be arrested and jailed. I don't know how old you are or if you were around in 1979 when the Iranians overtook our US Embassy in Iran. That should never be allowed to reoccur. It is an act of war to attack another country's Embassy. Period. That absolutely must be met with overwhelming force. Period. Waiting "until they`re inside" is insane. That`s like saying we wouldn`t engage an enemy approaching the shore of the U.S., we must wait until they`re inside the country. How could anyone even think that?
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Post by moose1am on Jan 1, 2020 12:32:25 GMT -5
This is the type of topic that divides this country. War or not. Those are the two choices.
I believe in being powerful and ready. Speak softly but carry a big stick. People can spot weakness and they will test you and see if there is a weakness that they can take advantage of.
There were thousands of Shiites with allegiance to Iran's spiritual leaders who were burning our outpost at the US Embassy and destroying our security cameras at the Embassy. Those people should have been shot when they burned the guard post and beat the US security Cameras on the wall surrounding our Embassy. This is not over.
It's people that want to stand by and do nothing that encourages Iran to do more violence.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 1, 2020 12:34:30 GMT -5
By the time they get into the compound? You do realize how large the US Embassy Compound it. it's the size of the Vatican. It's huge. Any vioence inside the Green Zone should be stopped immediately and the leaders of the protests should be arrested and jailed. I don't know how old you are or if you were around in 1979 when the Iranians overtook our US Embassy in Iran. That should never be allowed to reoccur. It is an act of war to attack another country's Embassy. Period. That absolutely must be met with overwhelming force. Period. Waiting "until they`re inside" is insane. That`s like saying we wouldn`t engage an enemy approaching the shore of the U.S., we must wait until they`re inside the country. How could anyone even think that? That not even close to what is being said...great SPIN again though SMH!
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Post by greghopper on Jan 1, 2020 12:41:50 GMT -5
This is the type of topic that divides this country. War or not. Those are the two choices. I believe in being powerful and ready. Speak softly but carry a big stick. People can spot weakness and they will test you and see if there is a weakness that they can take advantage of. There were thousands of Shiites with allegiance to Iran's spiritual leaders who were burning our outpost at the US Embassy and destroying our security cameras at the Embassy. Those people should have been shot when they burned the guard post and beat the US security Cameras on the wall surrounding our Embassy. This is not over. It's people that want to stand by and do nothing that encourages Iran to do more violence. "This is not over"...is correct, It seems they are being controlled and more forces are being put in place which is a good thing!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 14:28:43 GMT -5
This is the type of topic that divides this country. War or not. Those are the two choices. I believe in being powerful and ready. Speak softly but carry a big stick. People can spot weakness and they will test you and see if there is a weakness that they can take advantage of. There were thousands of Shiites with allegiance to Iran's spiritual leaders who were burning our outpost at the US Embassy and destroying our security cameras at the Embassy. Those people should have been shot when they burned the guard post and beat the US security Cameras on the wall surrounding our Embassy. This is not over. It's people that want to stand by and do nothing that encourages Iran to do more violence. We had eight sickening years before President Trump, of groveling and sniveling, and apologizing for American greatness, and weakening our military to a point of being unable to properly respond as needed, and no backbone or stomach for the harsh realities of keeping America safe in this day and time. May that never be repeated.
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Post by moose1am on Jan 1, 2020 19:37:22 GMT -5
It is an act of war to attack another country's Embassy. Period. That absolutely must be met with overwhelming force. Period. Waiting "until they`re inside" is insane. That`s like saying we wouldn`t engage an enemy approaching the shore of the U.S., we must wait until they`re inside the country. How could anyone even think that? That not even close to what is being said...great SPIN again though SMH! No spin. Just the facts that have been reported. I watch all the news channels not just one or two that agree with me. I can shift through the BS and make up my own mind. What I can't control is what the news is reported and how they report it. Neither you nor I were actually there. I did see a lot of videos showing them trying to see the security wall on fire. Lighting branches from the local trees and then trying to throw them up against the security wall or over the wall. I saw men with slings throwing rocks over the fence. David Killed Goliath with such a sling device so they can be lethal if the rock hits you in a certain spot like your head. That's lethal force.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 1, 2020 19:45:46 GMT -5
MEH....
My point went right over your head...geez!
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Post by moose1am on Jan 2, 2020 11:20:05 GMT -5
Landing those helicopters/planes inside the compound and offloading over 100 new US marine fighters seems to be working. That and the Iraqi Security Forces are finally doing their jobs.
A reception area was burned. I suspect that was inside the US Embassy compound and 100% inside the Green zone.
Riots inside the Green Zone should not be tolerated. IMHO. If the Iraqi Security does not do their job then the US Armed Forces will have to.
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Post by wv on Jan 2, 2020 14:05:09 GMT -5
I d show them exactly how bad an idea it is to mess with our embassy and then some
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 19:27:06 GMT -5
I d show them exactly how bad an idea it is to mess with our embassy and then some Peace through power is the prefered approach, but, unfortunately, there are times it comes down to flat-out fighting, and our United States Armed Forces folks fight better than any other warriors on this planet.
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Post by moose1am on Jan 2, 2020 21:32:33 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2020/01/02/middleeast/baghdad-airport-rockets/index.htmlSh** is really doing to hit the Fan in Iraq now. Rocket attacks killed the head of the Iranian Paramilitary in Iraq. Iran is going to be really pi&&ed off now. The leader of Iran told Trump that he could do nothing. I guess the leader of Iran was wrong. LOL The USA can kick the Cr&& out of Iran if we want to.
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Post by greyhair on Jan 2, 2020 21:46:46 GMT -5
A war just in time for election season. Just sayin, wont be the first time
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