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Post by swetz on Dec 12, 2019 20:11:04 GMT -5
No, case law and legal precedent are clear that not all rights are solely for citizens.
I think you are confusing your own opinion of what people should receive with legal rights.
Period and raise you an exclamation point.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 20:13:37 GMT -5
No, case law and legal precedent are clear that not all rights are solely for citizens. I think you are confusing your own opinion of what people should receive with legal rights. Period and raise you an exclamation point. As per the law of the land, you`re entitled to your opinion.
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Post by swilk on Dec 12, 2019 20:14:52 GMT -5
His opinion is actually backed with fact...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 20:17:19 GMT -5
His opinion is actually backed with fact... That`s all a matter of opinion...
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Post by swilk on Dec 12, 2019 20:17:47 GMT -5
No, it's not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 20:25:26 GMT -5
Actually, yes, it is. The courts have argued about this, with the liberal courts leaning towards favoring rights for illegals, and the conservative courts leaning towards the right and proper assessment, which is, illegal aliens have zero constitutional rights in the United States. Obviously, I favor the right and proper assessment, that illegal aliens have zero constitutional rights, not because that`s my preference, (which it is), but because it`s the right and proper, and legally judicious standpoint. I`m good with where I stand, as I know I`m right, and so, I`m done here. We could argue literally forever, but your point isn`t to defend illegals as much as it is to dispute me. And that`s fine, it`s all cool, because I know I`m right. Take care now.
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Post by swilk on Dec 12, 2019 20:26:44 GMT -5
Lol...uh . Have a nice day.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 12, 2019 20:29:53 GMT -5
His opinion is actually backed with fact... Yep exactly...everyone is entitled to their opinion but not THEIR OWN set of facts! Thank you....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 20:43:51 GMT -5
His opinion is actually backed with fact... Yep exactly...everyone is entitled to their opinion but not THEIR OWN set of facts! Thank you.... You`re welcome and you`re exactly correct. There`s only one truth.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 12, 2019 20:52:25 GMT -5
Yep exactly...everyone is entitled to their opinion but not THEIR OWN set of facts! Thank you.... You`re welcome and you`re exactly correct. There`s only one truth. Actually YOUR FACTS/OPINION are the ones in question... I think everyone else has got it right! Thank you
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 20:58:24 GMT -5
You`re welcome and you`re exactly correct. There`s only one truth. Actually YOUR FACTS/opinion are the ones in question... I think everyone else has got it right! Thank you Ahhh, I see...so those who invade America, who infest the Republic, and the pathetic who enable them and support them "have got it right". Got it.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 12, 2019 21:03:51 GMT -5
LOL....thought you were DONE!
BTW... all good opinions are based on FACTS you have provided none again!
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Post by swetz on Dec 12, 2019 22:03:52 GMT -5
Actually, yes, it is. The courts have argued about this, with the liberal courts leaning towards favoring rights for illegals, and the conservative courts leaning towards the right and proper assessment, which is, illegal aliens have zero constitutional rights in the United States. Obviously, I favor the right and proper assessment, that illegal aliens have zero constitutional rights, not because that`s my preference, (which it is), but because it`s the right and proper, and legally judicious standpoint. I`m good with where I stand, as I know I`m right, and so, I`m done here. We could argue literally forever, but your point isn`t to defend illegals as much as it is to dispute me. And that`s fine, it`s all cool, because I know I`m right. Take care now. No, you're not right. You just have severe confirmation bias.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 13, 2019 6:13:04 GMT -5
That's a understatement for sure....
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Post by swilk on Dec 13, 2019 7:23:05 GMT -5
It's really not even a discussion...there are numerous cases a person can reference. Liking or not liking. Supporting or not supporting. Doesn't matter. The Constitution and established case law are all that matter.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 17:09:38 GMT -5
It's really not even a discussion...there are numerous cases a person can reference. Liking or not liking. Supporting or not supporting. Doesn't matter. The Constitution and established case law are all that matter. That`s the same argument libs make regarding abortion, saying it`s already settled law, but abortion is going down. Nothing is "settled", especially not when it`s wrong.
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Post by swetz on Dec 13, 2019 17:39:21 GMT -5
Thought you were done with this discussion...
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Post by swetz on Dec 13, 2019 17:59:21 GMT -5
It's really not even a discussion...there are numerous cases a person can reference. Liking or not liking. Supporting or not supporting. Doesn't matter. The Constitution and established case law are all that matter. That`s the same argument libs make regarding abortion, saying it`s already settled law, but abortion is going down. Nothing is "settled", especially not when it`s wrong. New laws get passed, some get struck down, but regardless of future possible outcomes, it doesn't change the current state of affairs at any point in time. For example, alcohol was legal, illegal during prohibition, and then legal again after its repeal. Regardless of potential future states or your personal preference of what you think certain individuals should be entitled to, the point still stands that as of this moment not all rights are reserved solely for US citizens.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 18:26:36 GMT -5
That`s the same argument libs make regarding abortion, saying it`s already settled law, but abortion is going down. Nothing is "settled", especially not when it`s wrong. New laws get passed, some get struck down, but regardless of future possible outcomes, it doesn't change the current state of affairs at any point in time. For example, alcohol was legal, illegal during prohibition, and then legal again after its repeal. Regardless of potential future states or your personal preference of what you think certain individuals should be entitled to, the point still stands that as of this moment not all rights are reserved solely for US citizens. Again, it depends on which court rules, which time, and nothing is etched in stone. More than that, the point is, the right and proper thing, and the intent of the Constitution and bill of rights is that, constitutional rights are reserved for United States citizens only. I`m entitled to my perspective and you are yours. Mine just happens to be right.
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Post by swilk on Dec 13, 2019 18:35:51 GMT -5
Lol...it's so cute the way you keep saying that you are right.
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