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Post by genesis273 on Dec 1, 2019 22:00:50 GMT -5
Does anyone on here have one of these or any experience with them? Pro's or cons?
Since Nikon is going to stop making scopes I figured I should try a new brand. The Leupold CDS scope system has caught my eye.
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Post by esshup on Dec 1, 2019 22:58:20 GMT -5
Does anyone on here have one of these or any experience with them? Pro's or cons? Since Nikon is going to stop making scopes I figured I should try a new brand. The Leupold CDS scope system has caught my eye. HEre's another one to look at. Pretty good glass for the $$ spent. Athlon |
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Post by genesis273 on Dec 2, 2019 6:03:57 GMT -5
Those do look pretty nice!
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Post by kicker on Dec 8, 2019 22:50:30 GMT -5
I have my .270 & 7 mm rem mag with Vx3I 4.5 x 14 x 40 CDS sidefocus. If you do any hunting and your shots are longer than 200 yds, this is the scope. Once you get it sighted in either with factory ammunition or reloads, you send a ballistic report to leupold and they custom make dials for the yardage you want. On my .270, I have it sighted in @ 200 yds, and my dial will adjust to 350 yds. On my 7mm, it is sighted in @ 250 yds, and my dial will adjust out to 500 yds. Just the elevation knob is etched. So on mine, if my gun is sighted in @ 200 yds, and the target is 350 yds, I just turn my dial to reading 3.5. But this just takes into count elevation. It does not take into account windage.
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Post by esshup on Dec 8, 2019 23:34:47 GMT -5
I have my .270 & 7 mm rem mag with Vx3I 4.5 x 14 x 40 CDS sidefocus. If you do any hunting and your shots are longer than 200 yds, this is the scope. Once you get it sighted in either with factory ammunition or reloads, you send a ballistic report to leupold and they custom make dials for the yardage you want. On my .270, I have it sighted in @ 200 yds, and my dial will adjust to 350 yds. On my 7mm, it is sighted in @ 250 yds, and my dial will adjust out to 500 yds. Just the elevation knob is etched. So on mine, if my gun is sighted in @ 200 yds, and the target is 350 yds, I just turn my dial to reading 3.5. But this just takes into count elevation. It does not take into account windage. The only problem with this is if you are hunting in greatly varying temperatures or elevations and not using a very temp insensitive powder. As an example I sighted in my rifle at 300 yds and shot every 100 yds to 1,000 yds, then shot it at 1400 yds to get the drop numbers. This was at 38°F and 6500' elevation. When it came time to shoot at an elk at 500 yds, then again at 600 yds they were all clean misses. (low) At 708 yds I hit it where I aimed, but I had to add 2 moa (14" up) to the drop chart to do so. I was shooting at 5500' elevation and -8°F. So, before I'd spend the $$ on getting the turrets engraved, I'd find a load that was accurate, and shoot it at the distances you'd be hunting at, and at wildly varying temperatures just to make sure they will work for your hunting conditions and distances. |
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Post by kicker on Dec 9, 2019 12:00:49 GMT -5
My .270 stays true thru all temp ranges but I primarily use it to hunt deer here in Indiana. As far as the 7mm mag, I just have it sighted in with some Hornady ammuntion. I just got it back from a gunsmith. It was a Savage 111 but the recoil killed me. I had a gunsmith install a fixed muzzle brake, rifle basic trigger, and boyds thumbhole laminated stock. I will be working up a load and think I will settle on 160 gr bullet, and try and figure out a powder that would work here in Indiana and maybe someday out west. My buddy who regularly hunts elk has had good luck with Retumbo. Any suggestions ?
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Post by esshup on Dec 10, 2019 1:27:20 GMT -5
My .270 stays true thru all temp ranges but I primarily use it to hunt deer here in Indiana. As far as the 7mm mag, I just have it sighted in with some Hornady ammuntion. I just got it back from a gunsmith. It was a Savage 111 but the recoil killed me. I had a gunsmith install a fixed muzzle brake, rifle basic trigger, and boyds thumbhole laminated stock. I will be working up a load and think I will settle on 160 gr bullet, and try and figure out a powder that would work here in Indiana and maybe someday out west. My buddy who regularly hunts elk has had good luck with Retumbo. Any suggestions ? kicker Kicker, it depends on how far you want to shoot and how close the shots could be. If you don't know how close the shots could be I'd use a Barnes 139g LRX or 140g TTSX pushed by a stiff charge of H-4831SC. (The Barnes bullet won't grenade at even a VERY close target like some bullets will.) Do the usual load workup, finding out what is max charge for your rifle. I'd be willing to bet that it will like something in the range of 62-65 grains. When you do your load work up, I'd start with .005" off the lands/grooves if that length will fit in the magazine. Once you find a powder charge that shows promise, back off the lands/grooves in .005" increments to find the sweet spot. Start close to the lands/grooves because backing it off will only reduce the pressure. If you start a ways off and get closer, the pressure will increase and you might have to start all over again with a lower powder charge. Here's some reading for ya. If you don't have the equipment to measure the base to lands/grooves and the tools to measure base to ogive on the bullet then just use the recommended OAL measurement and follow the procedure in this link: OCW instructionsThis will be dang flat shooting out past 500 yds. If you are going to shoot further than that, look into the Berger hunting bullets, but I don't know how they'd perform at closer distances (under 200 yds in a 7mm Rem Mag). It's all about impact velocity as to how the bullets perform. For instance the Nosler Accubonds won't reliably open up below 2100 fps impact velocity, but the Long Range Accubonds will reliably open up down to 1,900 fps. A Nsoler Ballistic Tip might act as a varmint bullet at close range and not five you a lot of penetration, same with the Winchester Silvertip bullets, or any "target" bullet. I punched thru a cow elk with the 180g Berger VLD hunting bullet at an impact velocity of 2500 fps, exit was half dollar size and it died without taking a step because the bullet was placed right below the spine behind the shoulder. I've also shot a coyote with the same bullet and the impact was at the last rib, exiting about 3" further back and half the inside was outside the coyote. That impact was roughly 2250 fps. I'm shooting either the 7mm 180g Berger VLD @ 3350 fps or the Berger EOL 195g bullet @ 3250-3300 fps, but I'm not shooting a 7mm Rem Mag, I'm shooting a 7mm Allen Magnum. With that gun I don't plan on shooting anything at less than 300 yds, and I have it zero'd at 300 yds. |
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Post by kicker on Dec 10, 2019 13:01:40 GMT -5
Awesome. Not familiar with Berger bullets but I will be. I primarily use Sierra and Speers. Will ask for some Berger Bullets from Santa. Right now, my gun is sighted in with 140 gr Hornady Whitetail. As far a new load, I was going to start with Alliant Reloader 22 and Hodgdon 4831. Need a good load that can handle the wide temperature swings we encounter. As far as a testing range, in-laws own a semi-private golf course here in south east Indiana. I typically do most of my deer hunting there when it is closed. Not this year. Weather still pretty mild so people are still playing golf. However, their are a couple of holes, that I can shoot flat out to 500 yds safely without worrying about bullet impact or hitting any houses or other structures. My hope is to get it sighted in @ 200 yds with maximum range out to 500 yds. The finest aspect of what we do, is figuring out the right combination such that all the hard work we put into the round, the gun and shooting the gun shows itself when one takes a deer or elk at unbelievable shooting distances.
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Post by genesis273 on Dec 13, 2019 21:40:57 GMT -5
I have my .270 & 7 mm rem mag with Vx3I 4.5 x 14 x 40 CDS sidefocus. If you do any hunting and your shots are longer than 200 yds, this is the scope. Once you get it sighted in either with factory ammunition or reloads, you send a ballistic report to leupold and they custom make dials for the yardage you want. On my .270, I have it sighted in @ 200 yds, and my dial will adjust to 350 yds. On my 7mm, it is sighted in @ 250 yds, and my dial will adjust out to 500 yds. Just the elevation knob is etched. So on mine, if my gun is sighted in @ 200 yds, and the target is 350 yds, I just turn my dial to reading 3.5. But this just takes into count elevation. It does not take into account windage. That is the exact scope I'm eye balling. |
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Post by genesis273 on Dec 14, 2019 9:08:05 GMT -5
I have my .270 & 7 mm rem mag with Vx3I 4.5 x 14 x 40 CDS sidefocus. If you do any hunting and your shots are longer than 200 yds, this is the scope. Once you get it sighted in either with factory ammunition or reloads, you send a ballistic report to leupold and they custom make dials for the yardage you want. On my .270, I have it sighted in @ 200 yds, and my dial will adjust to 350 yds. On my 7mm, it is sighted in @ 250 yds, and my dial will adjust out to 500 yds. Just the elevation knob is etched. So on mine, if my gun is sighted in @ 200 yds, and the target is 350 yds, I just turn my dial to reading 3.5. But this just takes into count elevation. It does not take into account windage. Do you find it to be accurate with their adjustments? Also, did you go with the windplex reticle? |
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