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Post by bill9068 on Sept 24, 2019 16:38:11 GMT -5
Made 5 lifelines today. Easy to make, ordered my climbing rope on amazon.
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Post by swetz on Sept 24, 2019 21:39:24 GMT -5
What kind of rope is that and what did you use for the prussik knots?
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Post by bill9068 on Sept 25, 2019 8:46:15 GMT -5
10mm for the main line and 6mm for the Prusik loop. Easy to tie the Prusik knot and tied a double fisherman’s knot to make the loop. All rope is climbing rope I bought on Amazon. All said and done I have $16 in each.
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Post by swilk on Sept 25, 2019 18:35:15 GMT -5
I'm 11 seasons into the rope I bought for my lifelines...won't go up a tree anymore without being connected to the tree.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 20:21:07 GMT -5
Same deal. I have life lines on all four stands.
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Post by nvg on Sept 26, 2019 5:53:11 GMT -5
Bill, Thanks for sharing the info. Amazing how many hunters opt not to wear one. Be safe and wear one-if not for you, do it for your family.
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 26, 2019 7:59:20 GMT -5
I'm 11 seasons into the rope I bought for my lifelines...won't go up a tree anymore without being connected to the tree. Swilk, Do you bring them in at the end of season? I’ve got one on every stand stand I leave them out. I’m getting ready to change them all out. Weather can deteriate them. I don’t want to have a false sense of security.
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Post by swilk on Sept 26, 2019 9:23:19 GMT -5
More often than not I bring them in at the end of each season .... the rope we use is kernmantle so the strength comes from the core which is not subject to the sun as the outer jacket is. But, I think the recommendation is 10 years and replace so mine are inspected often and will be replaced it I ever see any sort of wear on them. So far, there is only one rope that shows wear and it is on an end and will never be load bearing.
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Post by jbird on Sept 26, 2019 9:30:32 GMT -5
I have been fearful of creating my own....fear of getting the wrong stuff and it failing. What EXACTLY should a person be looking for should they decide to make their own?
I will be honest in the I do not use a line currently but do use a harness.
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Post by swilk on Sept 26, 2019 9:54:58 GMT -5
There are nearly infinite choices out there but I personally use Yale Bandit 11MM rope (5600LB) and 6MM Samson accessory cord (2200LB) for my prusiks.
A good aluminum carabiner (steel is too heavy for me).
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Post by medic22 on Sept 26, 2019 9:55:00 GMT -5
I have been fearful of creating my own....fear of getting the wrong stuff and it failing. What EXACTLY should a person be looking for should they decide to make their own? I will be honest in the I do not use a line currently but do use a harness. 6mm accesory cord and STATIC climbing rope. 6mm prussik should bite well in 10-13mm
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 10:19:28 GMT -5
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Post by swilk on Sept 26, 2019 10:38:37 GMT -5
I disagree on double braided nylon being the "best"... I much prefer kernmantle.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 11:30:09 GMT -5
I disagree on double braided nylon being the "best"... I much prefer kernmantle. Both are good and mentioned on the article.
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Post by bill9068 on Sept 26, 2019 15:32:46 GMT -5
I gave no idea the construction of the rope I bought, just climbing rope. It was rated to break at I think 2500 pounds.
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Post by swetz on Sept 26, 2019 22:06:54 GMT -5
First off, the disclaimer. I am not an arborist or professional climber. Climbing is an intrinsically risky activity and you should use your own best judgment and never compromise safety.
From what little I have learned, everything must be climbing rated gear. A lot of rope seems plenty strong, but not really when you factor in the additional force from falling even a foot or two before it catches. Knots and carabiners used also matter. The strongest rope doesn't matter if the knot comes undone or the carabiner isn't closed or is loaded incorrectly. I believe, but double check me, that the cord used for the friction knot needs to be 60-80% of the diameter of the main rope.
I saddle hunt which is obviously a different application than a lifeline, but there is always tension on the rope and if anything breaks, I will fall. My main line is 11.4mm static climbing rope rated for 6,000 lbs and I've ordered an 8mm sewn prussik line made from line rated for 8,000 lbs to replace my current friction hitch, which is not strong enough for my liking at a 2,760 lb rating.
I believe REI offers classes related to rock climbing on ropes and knots that you may want to check out if you are interested.
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 27, 2019 6:57:34 GMT -5
What Swilk says..
Use climbing rope ONLY. ....the big heavy rope at Harbor Freight or wherever looks solid but it’s a false sense of security.
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Post by swilk on Sept 27, 2019 7:04:50 GMT -5
I have a few Ropeman 1's for my linemans belts and will also use one on my tether when saddle hunting ... I much prefer them to prusiks in those applications.
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Post by medic22 on Sept 27, 2019 8:53:42 GMT -5
On that note, when I spoke to the gentlemen at our local climbing related store about ascenders being used for fall protection, he agreed that it was a safe application. I know there are some instances of a ropeman 1 cutting ropes during falls, he seem to believe that would be a pretty rare occurence.
He also went on to state he doesnt believe they are any better or worse than a prussik, just a more expensive way to do the same job.
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Post by omegahunter on Sept 27, 2019 8:56:00 GMT -5
More often than not I bring them in at the end of each season .... the rope we use is kernmantle so the strength comes from the core which is not subject to the sun as the outer jacket is. But, I think the recommendation is 10 years and replace so mine are inspected often and will be replaced it I ever see any sort of wear on them. So far, there is only one rope that shows wear and it is on an end and will never be load bearing. If you leave them out you would have a better chance of catching some catfish once in a while!!
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