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Post by 10point on Jul 25, 2019 21:56:41 GMT -5
The fan in my outdoor unit is not spinning a lot of times. If I tap the top of the unit it will start spinning. Could it possibly just need some oil? It's like seven years old. I've owned the house for 3 years and haven't done any maintenance on it. Maybe should have.
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Post by scrub-buster on Jul 25, 2019 22:16:20 GMT -5
Mine quit spinning a couple of years ago. I called a friend who does HVAC work and he thought it could be the capacitor. I replaced it myself for about $15 and it fixed my problem. I hope yours is as simple of a fix.
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Post by bartiks on Jul 26, 2019 0:09:59 GMT -5
It isn't rubbing anywhere is it? You don't hear any rubbing or anything of the sort do you? The only reason I suggest that is whenever you tap it, it starts turning.
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Post by treetop on Jul 26, 2019 4:57:23 GMT -5
You could try the cap it’s a cheep try most times when they go bad your motor won’t work at all
Most newer units have sealed bearings so you don’t oil them you could try a touch of oil on the shaft right were it meets the motor
My guess is the start winding are going out most times that’s alll they need is a slight bump to make them work good enough to get going
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Post by 10point on Jul 26, 2019 5:59:18 GMT -5
I think I'm just going to call someone to come look at it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 6:55:09 GMT -5
Sounds like like your motor is going out. If the motor current starting draw starts reaching the capacitor holding current the motor can't start. Sometime just getting if over the starting current it will run.
If the cooling coils (evaporation coils) are clogged the motor will run hotter and wear out earlier. Most motor units are 4 screws and easy to lift up and remove. Take your garden hose and force dirt out from inside out. This should be done every year or even twice a year.
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Check the level of the unit. Over time it can become out of level and that create an unbalance of the motor shaft and wears it out faster.
PS: my unit is 27 year old and I just cleaned and looked at last week. It was out of level. I think the ground settle/lost from the spring rain. I think this is the last summer for it.
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Post by esshup on Jul 26, 2019 9:48:09 GMT -5
A buddy is a HVAC tech. He said most problems seem to run in spurts. One day he will replace a dozen capacitors. Another day all he will be doing is cleaning out the condenser coils and unplugging evaporator drains.
IIRC his service call fee is $90 plus parts and I forget what he charges per hour when on a call.
A capacitor is under $20 if you do it, expect to pay around $150 to have a HVAC tech do it.
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Post by jbird on Jul 26, 2019 10:23:19 GMT -5
If you decide to get adventurous and dig into it yourself.....disconnect the power and NOT just shot off the unit thru the thermostat. I had a little....Ummm....I know a guy....who went to mess with his and got a little zap because he was lazy!
Biggest issue I have had with mine thus far is mice chewing up the wiring!
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Post by Russ Koon on Jul 26, 2019 11:29:50 GMT -5
Mine quit year before last, after about fifteen years of faithful service with no maintenance. Repaired once by HVAC guy who replaced capacitor with "heavy-duty" capacitor, said it was often needed fr older units like mine.
Quit again the following spring. I replaced the capacitor he had put in, which was the standard duty capacitor that was original equipment, with another "heavy duty" capacitor from a nearby HVAC supply house, which was also the exact same spec's as the one it was replacing (I'm beginning to think they are all "heavy duty", as I can't find any regular duty or light duty ones listed anywhere). That one also got it going for a couple weeks, then it quit again, and when I checked the circuit that time, it was the relay (which is now called by a different name, "initiator" or "instigator" or somesuch, but it still just connects the 120V line to the compressor motor using the 24V power from the thermostat.
That repair was good for about a week and the compressor motor finally died with a squealing noise that made it obvious that it had been the real culprit all along and I had just been fixing the weak links in the circuitry that were failing because of the increased draw from the failing old motor.
Hot weather was upon us by that time, and I had no desire to put a bunch of money into a major repair of the central air when I'd be replacing most or all of the rest of that system anyway in a few years, so I ran up to the nearest Lowes and bought two window units that were narrow enough to fit our casement type sliding windows, and quickly put them in and we had sufficient cooling for the rest of last summer and I put them back in this spring and they're still doing the job quite well.
It depends on the individual situation whether that solution works better or not. We're an older couple with limited traffic in and out of the house, and really only need two areas to be really cooled during the hotter part of the summer, and one window unit in the master BR at one and of the house and another in a dining room near the other end gets the job done. Supposedly it's less efficient to do it that way, but I think that comparison is made based on the total cooling power needed for the whole interior to be made comfortable at all times during the cooling season, and that we are actually spending less on electricity by only cooling the one or two ends of the house that need it at the time.
I know I sleep better knowing that any failure for whatever reason in my cooling system can be remedied with another trip about ten miles up the road to Lowes and another $240 window unit 8^)
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Post by treetop on Jul 29, 2019 15:18:33 GMT -5
The fan in my outdoor unit is not spinning a lot of times. If I tap the top of the unit it will start spinning. Could it possibly just need some oil? It's like seven years old. I've owned the house for 3 years and haven't done any maintenance on it. Maybe should have. So what happen
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Post by omegahunter on Jul 30, 2019 10:10:39 GMT -5
I have replaced capacitors twice. Once the fan would not turn and the last time it would turn, but not at high speed. Each time my HVAC buddy has told me to up the capacitor size and I am now at the max for my unit.
He said that when the industry went to the smaller capacitors he sees them fail all the time. He said when they were the size of a coke can they lasted the lifetime of the unit most times.
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Post by nfalls116 on Jul 30, 2019 17:32:49 GMT -5
I have replaced capacitors twice. Once the fan would not turn and the last time it would turn, but not at high speed. Each time my HVAC buddy has told me to up the capacitor size and I am not at the max for my unit. He said that when the industry went to the smaller capacitors he sees them fail all the time. He said when they were the size of a coke can they lasted the lifetime of the unit most times. That’s something I hadn’t thought of.
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