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May 24, 2019 7:34:02 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on May 24, 2019 7:34:02 GMT -5
So I asked the question in the co forum but see if maybe anyone knows before he may answer. What is the legality in Indiana for possessing wild turkeys? I found a place that sells "wild" turkey eggs. Is it just a matter of wild animal permit? I can't find anything on dnr webpage but I can't imagine you can have deer and not turkey. Not sure how "wild" these turkey eggs actually are either
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May 24, 2019 8:42:06 GMT -5
Post by oldhoyt on May 24, 2019 8:42:06 GMT -5
I've read about past attempts to stock semi-wild turkeys, so-called game farm birds, that were not successful.
I have no idea if there are regs or rules about selling "wild" turkey eggs. Maybe that's how they get around the usual rules about not selling game?
I don't know how you'd legally be able to keep actual wild birds for egg production either.
All interesting questions.
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Post by span870 on May 24, 2019 8:50:49 GMT -5
The eggs actually come from another state. Guy raises them just like pheasants, flight pen and all. These turkeys will not be released, just farm pets. I just don't want domestic looking turkeys.
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Post by jbird on May 24, 2019 9:12:04 GMT -5
Only way I would consider the birds "wild" is if the eggs where actually taken from a wild nest. Which I would think would be illegal, but who knows. Birds raised from those eggs...in my opinion...would be livestock if they are raised in captivity. I suspect the guy somehow got birds from a "wild" egg and then claims his birds are wild birds and they produce just like any other captive animal. OR he got birds, from a source that claimed they where wild as well. Hard to say. Anything raised in captivity...isn't "wild" in my opinion. But this is all just my opinion....and you know what they say about those!
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Post by Woody Williams on May 24, 2019 10:04:28 GMT -5
I've read about past attempts to stock semi-wild turkeys, so-called game farm birds, that were not successful. I have no idea if there are regs or rules about selling "wild" turkey eggs. Maybe that's how they get around the usual rules about not selling game? I don't know how you'd legally be able to keep actual wild birds for egg production either. All interesting questions. That is a big mistake releasing tame turkeys into the wild, maybe even illegal. They can carry all kinds of diseases along with them...
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May 24, 2019 10:05:36 GMT -5
Post by esshup on May 24, 2019 10:05:36 GMT -5
I'd venture to say as long as you have the sales receipt and keep it you are in the clear. Same with the fish I sell. If I don't raise them myself, I have a sales receipt to show that they were purchased (and I apply for a pre-importation permit). Otherwise I'd be in deep doo-doo for having (for instance) largemouth bass less than 14" long, and way over the daily bag and possession limit. Look at the types of turkeys here: www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/standard_bronze_turkeys.html
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May 24, 2019 10:14:08 GMT -5
Post by Woody Williams on May 24, 2019 10:14:08 GMT -5
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May 24, 2019 10:35:52 GMT -5
Post by oldhoyt on May 24, 2019 10:35:52 GMT -5
I've read about past attempts to stock semi-wild turkeys, so-called game farm birds, that were not successful. I have no idea if there are regs or rules about selling "wild" turkey eggs. Maybe that's how they get around the usual rules about not selling game? I don't know how you'd legally be able to keep actual wild birds for egg production either. All interesting questions. That is a big mistake releasing tame turkeys into the wild, maybe even illegal. They can carry all kinds of diseases along with them... I know it's a bad idea. This was actually done by a state agency, can't remember which. Learned about it as an example of the way not to do things in college while studying the recovery program for wild turkeys in NH. If interested, you may be able to Google "Ted Walski" and read something about him. He was the leader of the turkey reintroduction in NH and also had a lot to do with fisher and cottontails.
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May 24, 2019 10:52:05 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on May 24, 2019 10:52:05 GMT -5
They won't be released. In fact I plan on cutting their flight feathers. Everyone that I've talked to that had they say they are as sweet as a dog the first two years then the gobblers get flat out mean and fly away. Always wanted "wild" ones and sure ain't going to let em go when I finally do. That is if I can keep the dogs from killing em.
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May 24, 2019 12:11:55 GMT -5
Post by jbird on May 24, 2019 12:11:55 GMT -5
I've read about past attempts to stock semi-wild turkeys, so-called game farm birds, that were not successful. I have no idea if there are regs or rules about selling "wild" turkey eggs. Maybe that's how they get around the usual rules about not selling game? I don't know how you'd legally be able to keep actual wild birds for egg production either. All interesting questions. That is a big mistake releasing tame turkeys into the wild, maybe even illegal. They can carry all kinds of diseases along with them... Releasing domestic animals into the wild can cause issues (see the wild pig issue in the deep south) and domesticating otherwise wild animals is an issue (see CWD spread in deer and elk). Sometimes mankind needs to know when to leave well enough alone!
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Post by jjas on May 24, 2019 13:56:00 GMT -5
jbird
Ain't that the truth...
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May 24, 2019 16:58:58 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on May 24, 2019 16:58:58 GMT -5
Guys I'm not going to release them. I live in Lawrence county. Definitely don't need more turkeys here.
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May 24, 2019 17:01:32 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on May 24, 2019 17:01:32 GMT -5
So I got my answer. Amazes me that I can have a coyote, coon, squirrel, deer or even a mountain lion but turkeys are a no no. Makes no sense but is what it is. Heck I just looked. Correct permit I can have a polar bear. Polar bear be a lot cooler than a turkey anyway.
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May 24, 2019 17:37:41 GMT -5
Post by esshup on May 24, 2019 17:37:41 GMT -5
So I got my answer. Amazes me that I can have a coyote, coon, squirrel, deer or even a mountain lion but turkeys are a no no. Makes no sense but is what it is. Heck I just looked. Correct permit I can have a polar bear. Polar bear be a lot cooler than a turkey anyway. Span870: You can take a banding tool that is used to castrate sheep (uses a fat "O" ring) and place that on the first joint in from the end of the wing. The end of that one wing will whither and die. San Diego Seaworld uses that method to pinion their ducks so they can't fly. They said it was less traumatic to the birds and less risk of infection than cutting/cauterizing. They do that instead of cutting the flight feathers because if they were too late the bird(s) could fly. Look at the place I linked to. Other species of turkey other than Eastern are available. And since they are domesticated, there should be no issues with the DNR.
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