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HPR’s
Nov 24, 2018 20:20:07 GMT -5
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Post by jdebose on Nov 24, 2018 20:20:07 GMT -5
I don’t know if any you guys follow Bucks of Indiana or Southern Indiana Deer Hunters on Facebook, but there sure have been a ton of great deer killed so far this season. From kids and new hunters up to seasoned veterans.
One thing that’s really jumped out to me is when these fortunate hunters post the distances at which they harvested. Wow, several 200yd, 300yd and I’m pretty sure even a 400yd shot was on there. I think that’s pretty impressive. I still consider a 100-120yds a pretty darn good shot on a whitetail.
I plan on spending a lot of hours at the range in the off season to work on my shooting skills. Not just to keep up with the Joneses, but I figure If I can work up to a good grouping on paper at 300yds, a 150yd shot on a deer in the field will feel like a chip shot.
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Post by firstwd on Nov 24, 2018 20:40:23 GMT -5
There is a series of humorous outdoor shirts floating around Facebook. One I like says "Long range shooting: It's like golf, only for men". My all time oldie but goodie, "How cute, you can hit a golf ball 300 yards. I can hit one at 300 yards".
Distance is only a number if you practice, have confidence in your weapon, and a full understanding of your abilities. I can promise you that the equipment can out preform the human factor every time.
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Post by scrub-buster on Nov 24, 2018 20:46:10 GMT -5
I can't imagine shooting a deer that far away. I've killed several with a rifle and the farthest one was 25-30 yards. Our woods are way too thick for any long shots.
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Post by elmo on Nov 24, 2018 21:03:49 GMT -5
I shot mine at a whopping 30 yards, but I was using a shotgun.
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Post by firstwd on Nov 24, 2018 21:06:22 GMT -5
The first deer I ever shot with an HPR was in Kentucky at 15 yards with a 30-30.
From the boy's stand I ranged the back of the grass patch across the field at 417 yards. I have no intentions of even trying to take a deer at that range, but the .22-250 is begging for a coyote to try sneaking through there. :-)
I'm a reacher. My "best" shot so far is a fox squirrel at 137 yards with my .17 HMR.
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Nov 24, 2018 21:32:33 GMT -5
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Post by jdebose on Nov 24, 2018 21:32:33 GMT -5
The first deer I ever shot with an HPR was in Kentucky at 15 yards with a 30-30. From the boy's stand I ranged the back of the grass patch across the field at 417 yards. I have no intentions of even trying to take a deer at that range, but the .22-250 is begging for a coyote to try sneaking through there. :-) I'm a reacher. My "best" shot so far is a fox squirrel at 137 yards with my .17 HMR. Do you have a bi pod or solid rest for the .22-250 or would you try that freehand?
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Nov 24, 2018 21:38:11 GMT -5
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Post by firstwd on Nov 24, 2018 21:38:11 GMT -5
The first deer I ever shot with an HPR was in Kentucky at 15 yards with a 30-30. From the boy's stand I ranged the back of the grass patch across the field at 417 yards. I have no intentions of even trying to take a deer at that range, but the .22-250 is begging for a coyote to try sneaking through there. :-) I'm a reacher. My "best" shot so far is a fox squirrel at 137 yards with my .17 HMR. Do you have a bi pod or solid rest for the .22-250 or would you try that freehand? Rest all the way. I'm not sure I could hit a truck at that range freehand.
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Post by throbak on Nov 24, 2018 21:44:05 GMT -5
That’s what I figured would happen with the implimentation of HPR For a lot , not all , Deer Hunting is now Deer Shooting And a challenge not to get a deer but the challenge of the longest shot ! I got a HPR but mine apes my MZL a 450 Bushmaster Same bullet and velocities as my MZL but I don’t have to clean or worry about it all the time !!
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Nov 24, 2018 21:45:55 GMT -5
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Nov 24, 2018 21:45:55 GMT -5
I’m still trying to draw first blood with my Ruger American 30-06. It will happen before this season is over. I don’t have many areas I can shoot long distance though. Probably still be under 75 yard shot.
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Post by kicker on Nov 24, 2018 22:00:55 GMT -5
For starters, in order to make a 200, 300 or 400 yd shot, you must be one with your rifle and inheretinly knowlegable on what your ammunition will do. For starters, what rifle caliber do you use. I have 2 guns. One is a 270 winchester the other is 7 mm rem mag. my point blank range on the 270 is 300 yds. The 7mm can reach out to 400 yds or more. But, 300 yd shot with a .270 is a long shot and I would not attempt it with out knowing the ballistics of my 140 gr bullet. Ballistics is everything that may effect the bullet. At 300 yds you would be surprized how a 10 mph cross wind effect bullet impact. Now the 7mm rem mag is basically a .270 on steroids. But, it out performs the .270 at 300 yds and beyond. Another consideration that you must take into account is the quality of your scope. A 3x9x40 wont even come close to being able to see a 6 inch target area at 300 yds. Both my guns are outfitted with high end Leupolds that are VX-3i 4.5-14x40mm (30mm) AO. I can remember my buddy who got me into deer hunting tell me you cant hit what you cant see. Basically decided on a rifle caliber that is capable of shooting 300 yds. Learn everything you possibly can on the ballistics of that round. Invest in a ballistic app. If you have an Iphone the best app out their is ballisticapp.com . Then start shooting. My 270 is zeroed at 200 yds. 7mm mag is zeroed at 250 yds. Once you can put 3 shots in a dime or quarter size group at 200 yds, move your target to 300 and so forth. Now one other thing to take into consideration is what your gun will do cold. Cold means you have not shot anything out of that gun. In hunting situations you get 1 shot. Your gun better put that 1 shot in the bullseye at 200, 250 or what ever yardage you are sighted in. So in the off season you will be studing ballistics of a certain rd, shooting that rd, and having fun. Hope this helps kicker
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Nov 24, 2018 22:18:00 GMT -5
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Post by jdebose on Nov 24, 2018 22:18:00 GMT -5
Thanks Kicker. Thanks makes a lot of sense.
At this point I’m still trying to decide if I want to upgrade to a Ruger PR, or Howa CR. Both are bolt guns. On the other hand I could go with a AR10 with a 24 inch barrel. Those might not be as accurate but not nearly as heavy either.
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Post by medic22 on Nov 24, 2018 23:17:11 GMT -5
400 and under really isnt very complicated. Practice, know youre dope, and you will be perfectly capable of taking a whitetail at that range.
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Post by boman on Nov 24, 2018 23:25:55 GMT -5
I don’t know if any you guys follow Bucks of Indiana or Southern Indiana Deer Hunters on Facebook, but there sure have been a ton of great deer killed so far this season. From kids and new hunters up to seasoned veterans. One thing that’s really jumped out to me is when these fortunate hunters post the distances at which they harvested. Wow, several 200yd, 300yd and I’m pretty sure even a 400yd shot was on there. I think that’s pretty impressive. I still consider a 100-120yds a pretty darn good shot on a whitetail. I plan on spending a lot of hours at the range in the off season to work on my shooting skills. Not just to keep up with the Joneses, but I figure If I can work up to a good grouping on paper at 300yds, a 150yd shot on a deer in the field will feel like a chip shot. I consider myself a seasoned rifleman and spend a bit of time on the range. I wonder how many of those shots were actually measured with a rangefinder or just a swag. I've encountered a lot of guys who overestimate the distance of their shot over the years. Hunting with a rifle and making an ethical shot at the ranges these guys are bragging about sounds easy until you try it. All of my hunting rifles are custom built and I work with them as kicker describes. my current deer rifle is a custom mauser 30-06 shooting a 125gr bullet. I only shoot handloads and work them up over a chronograph, so I know my velocity, trajectory and pbr. I hunt a mowed crp field that is 460yds long by 220 wide hide in a ground blind made from straw bales and shoot over a tripod from a sitting position. I'm capable of 300yds with this rifle bur doubt if I'll ever take a shot over 250 to 260 because that is my comfort zone. killed a 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 yr old buck at 210yds this year opening morning and it felt like a chip shot---- Steve
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Nov 25, 2018 0:18:43 GMT -5
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Post by jdebose on Nov 25, 2018 0:18:43 GMT -5
I don’t know if any you guys follow Bucks of Indiana or Southern Indiana Deer Hunters on Facebook, but there sure have been a ton of great deer killed so far this season. From kids and new hunters up to seasoned veterans. One thing that’s really jumped out to me is when these fortunate hunters post the distances at which they harvested. Wow, several 200yd, 300yd and I’m pretty sure even a 400yd shot was on there. I think that’s pretty impressive. I still consider a 100-120yds a pretty darn good shot on a whitetail. I plan on spending a lot of hours at the range in the off season to work on my shooting skills. Not just to keep up with the Joneses, but I figure If I can work up to a good grouping on paper at 300yds, a 150yd shot on a deer in the field will feel like a chip shot. I consider myself a seasoned rifleman and spend a bit of time on the range. I wonder how many of those shots were actually measured with a rangefinder or just a swag. I've encountered a lot of guys who overestimate the distance of their shot over the years. Hunting with a rifle and making an ethical shot at the ranges these guys are bragging about sounds easy until you try it. All of my hunting rifles are custom built and I work with them as kicker describes. my current deer rifle is a custom mauser 30-06 shooting a 125gr bullet. I only shoot handloads and work them up over a chronograph, so I know my velocity, trajectory and pbr. I hunt a mowed crp field that is 460yds long by 220 wide hide in a ground blind made from straw bales and shoot over a tripod from a sitting position. I'm capable of 300yds with this rifle bur doubt if I'll ever take a shot over 250 to 260 because that is my comfort zone. killed a 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 yr old buck at 210yds this year opening morning and it felt like a chip shot---- Steve
Very nice! Practice makes perfect.
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Post by featherduster on Nov 25, 2018 4:44:33 GMT -5
I like to see my deer up close and I want to know that my shot will be a killing shot. It's like those TV shows where they shoot an Elk a 1/4 mile away as opposed to the guy with the bow that has the elk breathing in his face while at full draw.
It's not a target practice, it's hunting.
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 25, 2018 5:39:48 GMT -5
I’ve killed them from 30 to 300 with a HPR. With a solid rest and range time at whatever distance you are shooting them at it is not as hard as it sounds. You just need to put in the trigger time.
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Post by swilk on Nov 25, 2018 7:58:08 GMT -5
Elevation is easy...wind is the variable that makes it tough.
Can't see it. Can't measure it easily under field conditions. It changes over the course of the bullets travel.
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Post by span870 on Nov 25, 2018 8:18:41 GMT -5
I find a lot of times distance is like weight is like score. Very rarely any are measured. Every deer is 200#, every turkey has 1 1/4 Spurs, every beard is a foot long, and every shot is 300+. Take it for what it's worth.
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Post by swilk on Nov 25, 2018 8:27:54 GMT -5
Lol...there are a lot of 200# deer aren't there.
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Post by span870 on Nov 25, 2018 8:31:00 GMT -5
Does at that. I've been blessed to kill alot of deer and alot of nice bucks. Most officially weighed. I broke 200# one time and I'm hunting property surrounded by farm land.
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