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Post by schoolmaster on Nov 20, 2018 18:06:38 GMT -5
Anyone having trouble with the
270 bullets failing to exit on behind the shoulder shots on deer wigh standard cup and core bullets. A friend of mine recovered a buck he thought he might have missed
175 yards 80 yards to recovery the next morning. No blood, no hair, no exit. Puzzling.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 18:56:41 GMT -5
Anyone having trouble with the 270 bullets failing to exit on behind the shoulder shots on deer wigh standard cup and core bullets. A friend of mine recovered a buck he thought he might have missed 175 yards 80 yards to recovery the next morning. No blood, no hair, no exit. Puzzling. If only 1 hole and high bucks seem to not bleed externally. How many grams? |
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Post by schoolmaster on Nov 20, 2018 19:34:02 GMT -5
Don't know the bullet brand, type, or weight. But probably some of the usual selection at the local mart.
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Post by jdebose on Nov 20, 2018 19:57:39 GMT -5
.270 should be enough for any deer at most ranges.
One thing to keep in mind when buying rifle ammo is to buy ammo that is designed for deer hunting. I’m seeing a lot of guys frustrated about not finding blood, trailing deer for hours. Come to find they were using match ammo. All the major manufacturers sell ammo designed for whittails. They offer near match accuracy and ideal expansion.
Federal Non Typical, Winchester Deer Season, Hornady American Whitail are all great affordable options.
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Post by deadeer on Nov 20, 2018 20:29:39 GMT -5
I used standard 130gr cup and core Hornady Interloc last year. They violated 3 does like nobodys business.
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Post by swilk on Nov 20, 2018 20:31:02 GMT -5
Even with the 308 dad's didn't exit...or bleed externally. Of course the shot nearly cut it's heart in two so I figured with nothing to pump the blood there was a reason for the lack of a blood trail. The no exit was puzzling but I chalked it up to sometimes strange things happen...
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Post by jjas on Nov 20, 2018 21:38:58 GMT -5
I shot an 8 pointer on Saturday with a 140 grain Remington Cork lokt from a 6.5 creedmoor and the deer dropped within 50 yards. When I walked up to him, there was very little blood on the side I shot him in, no exit and no blood trail.
When I field dressed him, the lungs were like someone had turned a blender on inside of him.
I too, wondered why no exit wound.
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Post by firstwd on Nov 20, 2018 22:10:55 GMT -5
I shot one at 108 yards and another at 64 yards Sunday with 100 grain remington core-lok 243. Neither bled, but both had complete pass through and dropped in their tracks. My son carried it a couple years, but this was the first deer shot with it. I was quite impressed.
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Post by scrub-buster on Nov 20, 2018 22:56:46 GMT -5
My .243 left an incredible blood trail on my doe Saturday. Entry and exit hole behind the shoulder. It was like someone had a pitcher of blood and was pouring it out as they walked.
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Post by esshup on Nov 21, 2018 6:46:30 GMT -5
I went to "tougher" bullets for deer a number of years ago because I had a Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet not exit on a doe at 80 yds. I watched her from the bullet impact until she fell, and tracked from impact to where she fell. No blood until the last 10 yds. Lungs were a mess, no exit but all the blood stayed inside.
I switched to using Barnes TSX bullets and have had no issues with deer either dropping where I shot them, or having a good blood trail. The doe this year dropped in her tracks with a shot that hit lungs/spine, and the buck that I shot hardly bled at all, but I didn't expect much when a bullet goes in one ear and out next to the opposite ear.
I like a bullet to exit so there is a better chance of a blood trail.
I shot a deer last year that had it's head down and was facing me. Bullet entered the deer at the base of the neck in front of the shoulder, went thru the spine, and exited the scrotum. I was fully expecting to recover the 85 grain .243 Barnes TSX bullet when I shot the deer, but that wasn't the case.
I don't use standard cup and core bullets for the majority of my hunting any more. I use Berger 180 - 195 VLD 7,, bullets, .308 Accubonds or .243/.257 Barnes TSX bullets.
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Post by HuntMeister on Nov 21, 2018 7:30:43 GMT -5
Yep, if you want pass throughs use a solid copper!
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Post by ekelsey on Nov 21, 2018 7:55:04 GMT -5
I use Nosler Accubond or whatever its called and have not had any issues in the past.
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Post by boman on Nov 21, 2018 9:05:19 GMT -5
I've been wondering when this question would pop up ever since standard rifles became legal here. My experience has shown me that most deer shot with any caliber centerfire in the lungs,heart, chest seldom bleed much wether there's an exit wound or not relative to a bow or shotgun. especially if you don't hit major bone. If you get a straight passthru the deer may not act like it was even hit until it drops. The problem, which really isn't a problem; with standard old school cup and core is that most shots are taken at such a close range the energy/high velocity in the bullet defeats the design and they come apart too quickly, expend all their energy and hence, don't exit.
An exit wound or blood trail is not necessary,however; the deer is still gonna die IF you make good SHOT PLACEMENT and WATCH the deer as they seldom will go over 60-80yds, maybe 100 at the most.
I prefer Nosler balistictip or accubond as they are tougher than a standard bullet, especially an accubond. Barnes don't expand enough for me but are the absolute go to bullet for a straight away or head on shot.
Steve
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 21, 2018 10:14:30 GMT -5
Interesting. I don’t have a 270Win but I do have a 270WSM and it seems to me my 260 and my 30-06 seem to bring deer down a bit faster. I use Sierra GameKings in all 3. I wondered if it was because the WSM was running faster.
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Post by schall53 on Nov 21, 2018 12:52:56 GMT -5
I went to "tougher" bullets for deer a number of years ago because I had a Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet not exit on a doe at 80 yds. I watched her from the bullet impact until she fell, and tracked from impact to where she fell. No blood until the last 10 yds. Lungs were a mess, no exit but all the blood stayed inside. I switched to using Barnes TSX bullets and have had no issues with deer either dropping where I shot them, or having a good blood trail. The doe this year dropped in her tracks with a shot that hit lungs/spine, and the buck that I shot hardly bled at all, but I didn't expect much when a bullet goes in one ear and out next to the opposite ear. I like a bullet to exit so there is a better chance of a blood trail. I shot a deer last year that had it's head down and was facing me. Bullet entered the deer at the base of the neck in front of the shoulder, went thru the spine, and exited the scrotum. I was fully expecting to recover the 85 grain .243 Barnes TSX bullet when I shot the deer, but that wasn't the case. I don't use standard cup and core bullets for the majority of my hunting any more. I use Berger 180 - 195 VLD 7,, bullets, .308 Accubonds or .243/.257 Barnes TSX bullets. I use the TSX in everything, .375 H&H, .243 , and 30-06. Never had the slightest problem with any. My grizzly took the shot in the front shoulder and excited the opposite hip with the .375. |
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Post by deadeer on Nov 21, 2018 14:45:03 GMT -5
I am loaded with 140gr Accubonds in the 270win this year. I got 4 boxes to use.
I use all different types of bullets because I do buy/sell/trade on a website, and getting some very good deals regularly.
I have so much stuff now, its ridiculous! I have entertained trading in a bunch of it for just the certain bullets I use or want. I couldnt shoot up everything in 2 lifetimes right now. Lol
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