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Post by omegahunter on Jul 7, 2018 16:34:39 GMT -5
Even though the ancient Snapper still starts on the first pull, I think it is time to replace it. The 30" cut and near-pushmower ground speed needs upgraded since I have taken on another yard to care for this year (2 besides mine for no pay; just being a good neighbor to some older folks).
I have an Exmark and a Scag dealer within 15 minutes and their residential models with 50" decks run almost identical MSRP of $4200.
So anyone have enough experience with using either or both of these brands to give me a recommendation?
Currently leaning toward Exmark as parts are slightly less, but may not necessarily be by the time I would need them.
BTW, when did mowers get so expensive?? Bought the Snapper used 13 years ago for $300!
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Post by medic22 on Jul 7, 2018 16:58:09 GMT -5
I know the feeling. My 36" snapper comet locked up a couple weeks ago. I went qith a JD 140 series, I felt like a zero turn was overkill for my acre.
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Post by beermaker on Jul 7, 2018 17:41:11 GMT -5
Both are good, reputable brands. Local dealer support and parts source are certainly important, but maintenance and non-emergency parts can be found much cheaper through online suppliers.
One of my hunting buddies has a Scag and loves it. He mows around two acres with it, cleans it with an electric pressure washer, lets it dry in the sun, then parks it in the barn under a tarp. It's probably ten years old and looks like it just rolled off the assembly line. I'm sure he changes the filters and oil much sooner than recommended and will have that mower for many more years.
Hustler is another good company. I have a walk-behind that I have not spent a dime on, other than filters, in the five years I've had it. My uncle has a rider that he mows 3-4 acres with and he does NOT take care of it whatsoever. It looks like hell, but keeps on going. I've never heard any complaints from him.
For what it's worth, my landscape contractor mows 300+ lawns and you could not give him a mower that doesn't have a Kawasaki motor. My Hustler has one and starts on no more than three pulls, depending on how long it's been sitting.
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Post by omegahunter on Jul 7, 2018 17:54:50 GMT -5
Mine is a Comet model, too. 9 horse Briggs that keeps on ticking and is easy on gas, but takes forever to finish all the yards now. I know the feeling. My 36" snapper comet locked up a couple weeks ago. I went qith a JD 140 series, I felt like a zero turn was overkill for my acre.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 19:18:55 GMT -5
I have a gravely. Solidly built. Going on 5 years with 0 issue. Just typical maintenance. Movwer deck is built like a bushhod deck.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 19:19:17 GMT -5
I have a gravely. Solidly built. Going on 5 years with 0 issue. Just typical maintenance. Movwer deck is built like a bushhod deck.
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Post by nfalls116 on Jul 7, 2018 19:42:48 GMT -5
Both are good I think the ex mark has suspension right? I would take which one has best financing if not paying cash. If it’s two different places I’d try to negotiate a better seat into the deal. The seat is the most important part when buying comparable equipment
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Post by omegahunter on Jul 7, 2018 19:45:55 GMT -5
Both are good I think the ex mark has suspension right? I would take which one has best financing if not paying cash. If it’s two different places I’d try to negotiate a better seat into the deal. The seat is the most important part when buying comparable equipment Two different dealers in opposite directions from me.
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Post by nfalls116 on Jul 7, 2018 20:10:43 GMT -5
Both are good I think the ex mark has suspension right? I would take which one has best financing if not paying cash. If it’s two different places I’d try to negotiate a better seat into the deal. The seat is the most important part when buying comparable equipment Two different dealers in opposite directions from me. Good deal makes it easier to negotiate a deal between one or the other
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Post by greghopper on Jul 7, 2018 20:23:01 GMT -5
The mower that spins the blades the fastest would be my choice.
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Post by esshup on Jul 7, 2018 20:30:39 GMT -5
My JD345 has an 18 hp Kaw liquid cooled motor. Other than the plastic gear timing set going out around 1,000 hours I haven't had a lick of problems with the motor. Some other issues, but nothing that cost any $$ to fix.
I agree with getting a fast blade speed. I'd also ask for the procedure for changing and the cost for new blades. Keep the blades sharp and the lawns will look better too. I have IIRC 3 sets of blades and change them 2-3 times a year. I sharpen the ones I take off, so I can get back to mowing asap.
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Post by omegahunter on Jul 7, 2018 20:56:06 GMT -5
My JD345 has an 18 hp Kaw liquid cooled motor. Other than the plastic gear timing set going out around 1,000 hours I haven't had a lick of problems with the motor. Some other issues, but nothing that cost any $$ to fix. I agree with getting a fast blade speed. I'd also ask for the procedure for changing and the cost for new blades. Keep the blades sharp and the lawns will look better too. I have IIRC 3 sets of blades and change them 2-3 times a year. I sharpen the ones I take off, so I can get back to mowing asap. I have three Snapper blades for the same reason.
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Post by dusty20 on Jul 8, 2018 11:40:16 GMT -5
I have an old gravely promaster 100 that I bought a few years ago. It has the Kohler Magnum 18 in it. From what I can find they stopped making it in about 96 so it's at least that old.
I would agree blade speed is something I would really look at. I used to use a Toro time cutter z5000 and if the blades were slightly dull it would only cut on the upswing of each blade so each pass you would have 3 cut paths and 3 paths that the grass just stood up. I had to sharpen the blades all the time.
Something else I didn't think much about is access to everything. Which one let's you get the top of the deck sprayed out easier and access to engine. My neighbor bought a bad boy and said he has access panels to the entire motor and the foot deck folds open so you can clean and fix anything on top of the deck. I can never get all the crud out of the pulleys and blades on mine.
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Post by steiny on Jul 8, 2018 13:29:17 GMT -5
I've not owned either, but I wouldn't be afraid of a Scag mower, they look to be very heavy duty and well built. I probably swap lawn mowers way too often, but it's like getting a new toy to me. Have owned Grasshopper, Deere and now a Kubota zero turn. All have been real good mowers.
Recently upgraded to the big diesel Kubota. It's got a built in jack system to raise it up so you can change blades, pretty nice feature. If your zero turn doesn't have that feature, purchase a specialized mower lift for this purpose, makes getting to blades relatively easy.
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Post by throbak on Jul 8, 2018 14:45:01 GMT -5
I’ve mowed over a acre with a Country Clipper Jazee Pro for close to 20 years can’t complain I would get the joy stick now tho
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 8, 2018 15:16:12 GMT -5
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Post by gumbootbill on Jul 8, 2018 20:14:38 GMT -5
I have a Kubota zero turn in 48" cut 21 hp Kohler engine. I would look for one with a stamped deck heavy duty. You will want the heavy duty spindles also they won't wear out as soon.
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Post by nfalls116 on Jul 8, 2018 20:23:53 GMT -5
Welded deck, spindles aren’t an issue like they used to be but greasable With sealed bearings would be my choice. Kawasaki motor. Or Honda but you don’t see them as often.
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Post by greyhair on Jul 8, 2018 22:28:42 GMT -5
There are several good brands, Exmark is a good one. I am on my 8th year with a Cub Cadet 54" ZTR and it has been great, very trouble free. 26 hp Kawasaki.
I highly recommend the Kawasaki engine, even if it costs a bit more. Kohler's aren't worth a darn anymore. Too bad, time was when Kohler meant bulletproof.
Of course there is Briggs. Briggs is Briggs, always there, always average.
A buddy just bought a Dixie Chopper. I ran it some, and to tell the truth I was a little disappointed. I mean it was ok, but i the thought the handling and adjustments and controls were kind of clumsy. For the money I expected better.
Good luck!
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Post by saltydog on Jul 9, 2018 5:05:11 GMT -5
omega.... while your looking at ZTR's look at the Ferris. They have a suspension on them. We had a commercial mowing business back in the late 70's and 80's, weve owned Bunton , JD, Dixie chop,Exmark and Kubota's. The Kubota was probably the best cutting and riding, but it was a 72" cut and had a seat with shocks. But I bought a Ferris a few years ago used to try out with the shocks on the front and I love it. The new one's have shocks on the front and back. I have already made my mind up in a couple years I will purchase a new one.
Your back will thank you. Good luck with your quest !
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