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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 6, 2017 18:58:02 GMT -5
I thought you were talking about them breeding a little too close to the trunk of the family tree... Sometimes you gotta throw any argument out you can... matey
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 6, 2017 19:03:20 GMT -5
I can see this deer being a 1.5 yr. old but even it to turn into a 200 plus inch buck by age 3.5 would be a stretch. We are talking about wild deer and in this case a wild deer coming from a county with avg. to poor soil fertility and low ag. production. You sound like me trying to down sell Parke County. The Hoosier record book speaks differently about Switzerland county Indiana than you are implying. Not down playing Switzerland County at all. Produces big bucks every year, but not 200"+ 3.5 yr olds. Biggest thing the county offers is rough terrain and thick cover , which allows deer to grow to older age classes. I'm not buying the Splain buck is a 3 year old.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 6, 2017 19:25:10 GMT -5
You sound like me trying to down sell Parke County. The Hoosier record book speaks differently about Switzerland county Indiana than you are implying. Not down playing Switzerland County at all. Produces big bucks every year, but not 200"+ 3.5 yr olds. Biggest thing the county offers is rough terrain and thick cover , which allows deer to grow to older age classes. I'm not buying the Splain buck is a 3 year old. What is your opinion on the Deer's age from viewing the pics? I would say at least a 4.5 for sure... what was it's weight...anyone know?
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 6, 2017 19:35:43 GMT -5
Not sure on weight. Pics appear mature. I've seen trailcam pics from 2 different guys. I'd say 5.5 myself maybe 6.5. One Guy says he has pics of last 4 years and another last 2 years. ? Both said deer added about 40" antler from last year's pics.
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 6, 2017 19:39:05 GMT -5
Not down playing Switzerland County at all. Produces big bucks every year, but not 200"+ 3.5 yr olds. Biggest thing the county offers is rough terrain and thick cover , which allows deer to grow to older age classes. I'm not buying the Splain buck is a 3 year old. What is your opinion on the Deer's age from viewing the pics? I would say at least a 4.5 for sure... what was it's weight...anyone know? I’m going with 2.5 until others prove differently
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Post by deerhunter23 on Dec 6, 2017 19:42:44 GMT -5
Not sure on weight. Pics appear mature. I've seen trailcam pics from 2 different guys. I'd say 5.5 myself maybe 6.5. One Guy says he has pics of last 4 years and another last 2 years. ? Both said deer added about 40" antler from last year's pics. Anyway you can share those trail cam pics with us Boone? Is 40" antler growth alot over a years period? Asking just out of curiosity. Something I'm not familiar with.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 6, 2017 19:52:06 GMT -5
40" is alot of antler growth in a year IMO but lotta variables. No I do not have the trailcam pic's. As you can imagine there is some , let's say disappointment involvef and I'm not bothering them. End day the man that harvested did so legally, been hunting the deer this year and last. Not trying to take anything away from him in anyway. Guess it really doesn't matter how old the deer is, but more so curious. The hunters dad is who has said 3.5.
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 6, 2017 19:53:57 GMT -5
They should’ve let it go another year I reckon
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 6, 2017 19:56:24 GMT -5
40" is alot of antler growth in a year IMO but lotta variables. No I do not have the trailcam pic's. As you can imagine there is some , let's say disappointment involvef and I'm not bothering them. End day the man that harvested did so legally, been hunting the deer this year and last. Not trying to take anything away from him in anyway. Guess it really doesn't matter how old the deer is, but more so curious. The hunters dad is who has said 3.5. Yeah then I change my vote to 3.5
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Dec 6, 2017 20:21:48 GMT -5
To be even more accurate it needs to be sent in for cementum analysis. I’m going with the deer being older than 3.5 as well.
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Post by firstwd on Dec 6, 2017 21:19:25 GMT -5
You sound like me trying to down sell Parke County. The Hoosier record book speaks differently about Switzerland county Indiana than you are implying. Not down playing Switzerland County at all. Produces big bucks every year, but not 200"+ 3.5 yr olds. Biggest thing the county offers is rough terrain and thick cover , which allows deer to grow to older age classes. I'm not buying the Splain buck is a 3 year old. I hear there is also quite a bit of supplemental mineral sites in the county. Just how much does that affect antler growth?
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Post by (Not Ronald) Reagan on Dec 6, 2017 21:24:29 GMT -5
Myself along with a lot of friends have had it confirmed by local COs. Are the COs looking at their teeth or are just going off a visual inspection? Maybe explain the criteria there using if you know. Teeth, as it's been stated before it's almost impossible to judge a deer's age by just looking at the body or rack. As well as watching the same deer year to year
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 6, 2017 21:24:45 GMT -5
Just cut the antlers and look for growth rings?
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 6, 2017 21:44:00 GMT -5
Just cut the antlers and look for growth rings? 😁
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Post by duff on Dec 7, 2017 1:03:27 GMT -5
Why does the age even matter?
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 7, 2017 5:49:45 GMT -5
Just cut the antlers and look for growth rings? That's how the cementum annuli method of tooth aging works. Certainly way more accurate than just looking at molar wear, which I view as junk science. I can give a reasonable "guess" just by looking at the antler bases. Remember, they HAVE to be larger each year. I smile to myself when someone kills a buck with small base circumference and says, "He's an old buck past his prime and going downhill." No, buddy, he's a 2.5 year old. Lol!
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Post by hornzilla on Dec 7, 2017 6:57:06 GMT -5
Hey, deer season is still in if you guys don't have anything to do with your spare time. Also duck season. And with the cold front it should get good. Lol
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 7, 2017 9:09:09 GMT -5
Why does the age even matter? It doesn't really. Just got thrown in conversation when hunters dad said it was 3.5. I'm curious merely as a hunter that manages his properties.
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 7, 2017 9:13:42 GMT -5
never hunted Switzerland, but hunted across the river in the Carrollton/English area of Kentucky, basically the same ground. It doesn't have much going for it other than being rough as a cob. I have seen deer on cam in better areas of Indiana put on close to 40" from 3.5 to 4.5 years old. Of course, I don't feed them antler max and monster oats either
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Post by duff on Dec 7, 2017 11:06:06 GMT -5
Hey, deer season is still in if you guys don't have anything to do with your spare time. Also duck season. And with the cold front it should get good. Lol That is my plan!
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