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Post by boonechaser on Dec 6, 2017 13:58:39 GMT -5
Here is the 1.5 yr old confirmed by CO back in 1987 and stated a state record for a 1.5 yr old. If fact, the CO know where I shot this buck. He was right on. I mean within a few hundred yards. This was my 2nd buck and it's icing on the cake for forever deer hunting. It was 3 degrees when I went out and got the buck around 10 am . It was around 8 degrees at 10 am. I was the only one that went out that morning out of 12 hunters. After the shot I was red hot the rest of the day! This is still my favorite day ever hunting. I saw the buck around 8 am in my binoculars as he slowly walked down the hill across the creek. I can see this deer being a 1.5 yr. old but even it to turn into a 200 plus inch buck by age 3.5 would be a stretch. We are talking about wild deer and in this case a wild deer coming from a county with avg. to poor soil fertility and low ag. production.
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Post by (Not Ronald) Reagan on Dec 6, 2017 14:04:26 GMT -5
Here is the 1.5 yr old confirmed by CO back in 1987 and stated a state record for a 1.5 yr old. If fact, the CO know where I shot this buck. He was right on. I mean within a few hundred yards. This was my 2nd buck and it's icing on the cake for forever deer hunting. It was 3 degrees when I went out and got the buck around 10 am . It was around 8 degrees at 10 am. I was the only one that went out that morning out of 12 hunters. After the shot I was red hot the rest of the day! This is still my favorite day ever hunting. I saw the buck around 8 am in my binoculars as he slowly walked down the hill across the creek. I can see this deer being a 1.5 yr. old but even it to turn into a 200 plus inch buck by age 3.5 would be a stretch. We are talking about wild deer and in this case a wild deer coming from a county with avg. to poor soil fertility and low ag. production. Another big thing is genetics, what % size increase are you looking at on a deer's rack year to year?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 14:50:04 GMT -5
Here is the 1.5 yr old confirmed by CO back in 1987 and stated a state record for a 1.5 yr old. If fact, the CO know where I shot this buck. He was right on. I mean within a few hundred yards. This was my 2nd buck and it's icing on the cake for forever deer hunting. It was 3 degrees when I went out and got the buck around 10 am . It was around 8 degrees at 10 am. I was the only one that went out that morning out of 12 hunters. After the shot I was red hot the rest of the day! This is still my favorite day ever hunting. I saw the buck around 8 am in my binoculars as he slowly walked down the hill across the creek. I can see this deer being a 1.5 yr. old but even it to turn into a 200 plus inch buck by age 3.5 would be a stretch. We are talking about wild deer and in this case a wild deer coming from a county with avg. to poor soil fertility and low ag. production. It came from Switzerland county in good soil. From the low land of Sugar Branch that runs into the South Fork Laughery Creek. Yes, In two more years I guess it would have been 180 plus. I saw that year a huge buck. Biggest ever seen. Sure it came from same gene pool. The CO was well aware of the huge buck that year.
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 6, 2017 15:48:24 GMT -5
Here is the 1.5 yr old confirmed by CO back in 1987 and stated a state record for a 1.5 yr old. If fact, the CO know where I shot this buck. He was right on. I mean within a few hundred yards. This was my 2nd buck and it's icing on the cake for forever deer hunting. It was 3 degrees when I went out and got the buck around 10 am . It was around 8 degrees at 10 am. I was the only one that went out that morning out of 12 hunters. After the shot I was red hot the rest of the day! This is still my favorite day ever hunting. I saw the buck around 8 am in my binoculars as he slowly walked down the hill across the creek. I can see this deer being a 1.5 yr. old but even it to turn into a 200 plus inch buck by age 3.5 would be a stretch. We are talking about wild deer and in this case a wild deer coming from a county with avg. to poor soil fertility and low ag. production. You sound like me trying to down sell Parke County. The Hoosier record book speaks differently about Switzerland county Indiana than you are implying.
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Post by swilk on Dec 6, 2017 15:58:13 GMT -5
Got source for that information or is that "tailgate" talk ? 🤔 Myself along with a lot of friends have had it confirmed by local COs. No disrespect meant but i do not believe that....
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Post by swilk on Dec 6, 2017 16:01:08 GMT -5
Trying to guess what a wild deer may have been in two years is a fantasy guess at best. There are several variables that will come in to play that do not exist with a deer behind a fence.
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Post by (Not Ronald) Reagan on Dec 6, 2017 17:53:13 GMT -5
Myself along with a lot of friends have had it confirmed by local COs. No disrespect meant but i do not believe that.... None taken, believe me or don't. It's America 😁
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 6, 2017 17:58:57 GMT -5
Trying to guess what a wild deer may have been in two years is a fantasy guess at best. There are several variables that will come in to play that do not exist with a deer behind a fence. I mean I’d say there are as many variables to pen raised deer just different variables.
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Post by swilk on Dec 6, 2017 18:00:34 GMT -5
But they are more realistically controlled.
You can't make a wild deer eat what you want. Inject it with what you want. Make it sleep where you want. Don't have to worry about it getting stressed from dogs. Hit by a car. On and on...
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 6, 2017 18:08:06 GMT -5
But they are more realistically controlled. You can't make a wild deer eat what you want. Inject it with what you want. Make it sleep where you want. Don't have to worry about it getting stressed from dogs. Hit by a car. On and on... you can lead a horse to water and not make him drink You can put them in a cage inside and he will still find away to hurt themselves can get a batch of spoiled food workers who don’t care if they actually get the injections they were supposed to. The worst scenario they can get their head stuck in the very fence you built just to protect them from the situations you have given
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Post by swilk on Dec 6, 2017 18:12:01 GMT -5
You can make it drink....sedate it, jam a tube down it's throat and pump some water into it's stomach.
A caged horse anyway.
What you say is true for a wild horse.
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Post by swilk on Dec 6, 2017 18:16:15 GMT -5
There must be some benefit to those cages and being able to control the variables and circumstance or there wouldn't be 400" deer living inside fences.
I like to dissect and discuss things as much as anyone but if you truly believe fenced or not makes no difference there really isn't anywhere for us to go....
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 6, 2017 18:18:59 GMT -5
There must be some benefit to those cages and being able to control the variables and circumstance or there wouldn't be 400" deer living inside fences. I like to dissect and discuss things as much as anyone but if you truly believe fenced or not makes no difference there really isn't anywhere for us to go.... Of course I don’t believe that... that’s absurd. Just wanted to stick up for high fence operation but I’m out of stuff now. Besides they have to battle paperwork which wild deer don’t and the chance for diseases are far greater.
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Post by swilk on Dec 6, 2017 18:21:16 GMT -5
Need to use a special color font when doing that. Or speak in old English verbage. Something...
I thought maybe you had fallen on your head recently.
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 6, 2017 18:25:52 GMT -5
Need to use a special color font when doing that. Or speak in old English verbage. Something... I thought maybe you had fallen on your head recently. Well shiver me timbers you dirty land lubber Let’s not forget wild deer don’t have to deal with nearly as much inbreeding I don’t know anything about fonts or colors me gots to go get me hard tack gyarrr
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Post by greghopper on Dec 6, 2017 18:31:55 GMT -5
But they are more realistically controlled. You can't make a wild deer eat what you want. Inject it with what you want. Make it sleep where you want. Don't have to worry about it getting stressed from dogs. Hit by a car. On and on... I say all pen animals have a born on date that most likely is recorded when born...making them very easy to age!
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Post by greghopper on Dec 6, 2017 18:36:59 GMT -5
Got source for that information or is that "tailgate" talk ? 🤔 Myself along with a lot of friends have had it confirmed by local COs. Are the COs looking at their teeth or are just going off a visual inspection? Maybe explain the criteria there using if you know.
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Post by swilk on Dec 6, 2017 18:38:00 GMT -5
But they are more realistically controlled. You can't make a wild deer eat what you want. Inject it with what you want. Make it sleep where you want. Don't have to worry about it getting stressed from dogs. Hit by a car. On and on... I say all pen animals have a born on date that most likely is recorded when born...making them very easy to age! I was talking antler growth...
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 6, 2017 18:53:27 GMT -5
I say all pen animals have a born on date that most likely is recorded when born...making them very easy to age! I was talking antler growth... I am talking about convincing animals to drink
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Post by swilk on Dec 6, 2017 18:57:16 GMT -5
I thought you were talking about them breeding a little too close to the trunk of the family tree...
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