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Post by bigjim on Nov 13, 2017 23:49:17 GMT -5
Qwestion for you guys... didnt hunt but maybe once before halloween. Since then prolly hunted 7-8 times in the ladt 20 days. All from 2 stands about 100 yds apart. First 4-5-6 sits i saw 6-15 each time deer n many bucks with the shooters out of range. LAst 3-4 sits ive seen 1-2 deer each time. Do u guys think ive hunted my spot too hard and my presence has blown the deer out fo this area. Im hunting about a 20 acre woods. All farm fields n other woods around me. There sian interconnecting 40 acre woods n have seen the neighbor out as well. Opinions?
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Post by firstwd on Nov 14, 2017 6:52:19 GMT -5
How many other factors have changed in that timeframe? Crops harvested, rut, spotlighters?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 7:19:50 GMT -5
Yes, most probably. Food crops have changed the last 3 weeks, but hunting one stand more than two days is about the max. Best to let it alone for a week then hunt it again. I'm in the same boat with my backyard stand. Need to move to my neighbors and use the climber. I'm getting to the point where I prefer not to use a climber. IT's heavy and a effort to climb. Starting to slow at 56.
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Post by nfalls116 on Nov 14, 2017 7:26:04 GMT -5
How many other factors have changed in that timeframe? Crops harvested, rut, spotlighters? I’m with This ^^^^. wasn’t that about time our first frost hit? |
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Post by greghopper on Nov 14, 2017 7:33:53 GMT -5
Has to be the "Spotlighters"....SMH
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Post by bigjim on Nov 14, 2017 7:36:25 GMT -5
Nothing has changed to my knowledge just wondering if the walking in n out has alerted them to human presence n they have chosen to leave?
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Post by oldhoyt on Nov 14, 2017 8:04:48 GMT -5
Bucks that are with does don't move much. Cruising decreases once does come in heat.
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Post by thebellcompany on Nov 14, 2017 9:10:39 GMT -5
My thinking.. when I hunt the same stand more than once or twice per week my sightings go down.
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Post by swilk on Nov 14, 2017 12:25:54 GMT -5
I saw 23 deer yesterday evening. My buddy hunting my farm 500 yards away saw 1.
Lots of factors as to why....and sometimes the answer is simply "just because".
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Post by firstwd on Nov 14, 2017 13:15:34 GMT -5
Has to be the "Spotlighters"....SMH You got a fly bothering you? You seem to shake your head at lot... Does one spotlight bother deer? Probably not. But in some areas the parade is endless and the deer do shift deeper into the woods and away from the roads the spotlighters use. |
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Post by greghopper on Nov 14, 2017 13:32:30 GMT -5
Has to be the "Spotlighters"....SMH You got a fly bothering you? You seem to shake your head at lot... Does one spotlight bother deer? Probably not. But in some areas the parade is endless and the deer do shift deeper into the woods and away from the roads the spotlighters use. Explain how you know this to be true.... was there a study done you been reading? Please share if so... I done it and know many that do and once you know where the deer are 90% of the time they will always be Deer in that same spot .... again and again! That's my personal experience! I am taking spot lighting not any Shooting! BTW.....No Flys just silliness.... complete silliness some times. |
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Post by firstwd on Nov 14, 2017 16:04:16 GMT -5
You got a fly bothering you? You seem to shake your head at lot... Does one spotlight bother deer? Probably not. But in some areas the parade is endless and the deer do shift deeper into the woods and away from the roads the spotlighters use. Explain how you know this to be true.... was there a study done you been reading? Please share if so... I done it and know many that do and once you know where the deer are 90% of the time they will always be Deer in that same spot .... again and again! That's my personal experience! I am taking spot lighting not any Shooting! BTW.....No Flys just silliness.... complete silliness some times. Around here, there has been so much shooting for so long that just the light affects their movement. Everywhere? I haven't the foggiest, I only know what I've seen. I also know that once we pushed back a got the shooters busted and the "shiners" moved on because of the constant police presence we have a lot more deer and they use the whole farm and not just the back corner. |
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Post by coaldust on Nov 14, 2017 17:45:51 GMT -5
first set in a stand is your best opportunity..goes down after that.
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Post by chewbacca on Nov 15, 2017 8:33:58 GMT -5
first set in a stand is your best opportunity..goes down after that. Are you sure about that? Granted it would make sense but how many bucks do you know of were harvested by a hunter the first time he hunted a stand? I would venture to guess that very few mature bucks get harvested in a hunters first time in a particular stand. I've harvested several mature deer in my life, and between me and my buddies we have harvested a lot of mature over the years, not one of those that I can recall happened the first time to a particular stand. Many of those bucks were taken after being in the same stand 15-20 times in that season. Not trying to pick on you or anything but I used to believe the same thing. I'm not so sure anymore. It seems like no matter how much I sit a stand I still get an opportunity or 2 to shoot a mature deer every season. Sometimes I capitalize on the opportunity, most of the times I don't. |
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Post by coaldust on Nov 15, 2017 8:47:51 GMT -5
yup I'm sure..thats a fact
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Post by coaldust on Nov 15, 2017 9:21:41 GMT -5
If your sitting in the same stand 20 times your probably not playing the wind or anything. Depends on what you think is a big buck..120" or maybe a 5 year old 170"
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Post by firstwd on Nov 15, 2017 9:31:14 GMT -5
The only thing that is an absolute fact when it comes to deer is that nothing holds true for every deer and every situation.
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Post by coaldust on Nov 15, 2017 9:35:50 GMT -5
I will give you an example that might seem strange but somewhat similar. Every year I put my cameras out on my Illinois & Indiana property. I will put some acorn rage & corn to maximize pics..im many spots the first time sometimes 2nd I will have a group of coyotes feeding on that stuff. By the 3rd time I go to that sight they know something is not right & will never come back to that spot.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Nov 15, 2017 10:10:27 GMT -5
The only thing that is an absolute fact when it comes to deer is that nothing holds true for every deer and every situation. You can fool all of the bucks some of the time and some of the bucks all the time, but you can most certainly never fool all the bucks all the time. |
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Post by chewbacca on Nov 16, 2017 8:15:59 GMT -5
If your sitting in the same stand 20 times your probably not playing the wind or anything. Depends on what you think is a big buck..120" or maybe a 5 year old 170" I hunt thick, nasty, well traveled fencerows about 80% of the time I hunt. Rarely is the wind not in my favor in those spots. If it's not in my favor I don't hunt there. I play the wind on every single hunt. Most of the time the wind is out of the west or southwest in archery and several of my 15 stands are set up based on those wind directions. But I have stands placed for every possible wind direction so that when I head out to hunt I can hunt, and access my stand, with the wind always in my favor. What I am saying is if you are playing the wind and making every effort to minimize the ability for deer to ever know you are there then you can hunt a spot repeatedly. It's called low impact hunting. If you are allowing your scent to blow clear through the 20 acre woods you are hunting then yes more than likely a couple of sits with that scenario and a place could be over hunted easily. |
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