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Post by urbanguy on Oct 29, 2017 19:54:10 GMT -5
Okay, I have heard the full moon effects the rut? I am worried with how late gun season is? Thoughts on the supposed trying moon?
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Post by firstwd on Oct 29, 2017 20:34:59 GMT -5
Effects it in what way? Gun season will be gun season no matter what day it opens.
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 29, 2017 20:40:26 GMT -5
Don't expect anything out of normal. Just a couple days later.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 9:40:34 GMT -5
Effects it in what way? Gun season will be gun season no matter what day it opens. I think what he is saying is that he's afraid the rut will start sooner and fizzle out before gun season comes in. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 9:40:56 GMT -5
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Post by urbanguy on Oct 30, 2017 10:25:31 GMT -5
Thanks Woohoo. That's what I was getting at. With the gun season so late I am concerned the Rut will be on the back burner and slowing down.
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 30, 2017 10:34:02 GMT -5
Since the "TRIGGER" for doe's coming into estrous is the amount of daylight, that isn't going to vary by a few days one way or another from year to year. With that said there are factor's that can influence daytime activity, such as moon phase, weather, local hunting pressure etc.. I don't put much faith in article's that claim a early rut or late rut myself. Majority of doe's will be bred in November in Indiana year in and year out. Younger doe's and doe's that missed getting bred first estrous cycle for whatever reason will simply get bred 2nd (Dec)or even in some case 3rd estrous cycle (Jan). Saying the whitetail rut happens same time year in and year out is boring and doesn't sell many magazine's so these prediction's seem to float around every year.
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 30, 2017 10:38:47 GMT -5
Have actually seen a few doe's being bred through the years. Earliest was Oct.31 and the rest have all been in November. Actually it is pretty cool to watch and resembles " wham,bam thank you mam'm". Bucks don't waste time. LOL
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Oct 30, 2017 13:16:29 GMT -5
Since the "TRIGGER" for doe's coming into estrous is the amount of daylight, that isn't going to vary by a few days one way or another from year to year. With that said there are factor's that can influence daytime activity, such as moon phase, weather, local hunting pressure etc.. I don't put much faith in article's that claim a early rut or late rut myself. Majority of doe's will be bred in November in Indiana year in and year out. Younger doe's and doe's that missed getting bred first estrous cycle for whatever reason will simply get bred 2nd (Dec)or even in some case 3rd estrous cycle (Jan). Saying the whitetail rut happens same time year in and year out is boring and doesn't sell many magazine's so these prediction's seem to float around every year. Nailed it. Agree 100%. All breeding I’ve personally witnessed has been in November. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 18:05:08 GMT -5
Since the "TRIGGER" for doe's coming into estrous is the amount of daylight, that isn't going to vary by a few days one way or another from year to year. With that said there are factor's that can influence daytime activity, such as moon phase, weather, local hunting pressure etc.. I don't put much faith in article's that claim a early rut or late rut myself. Majority of doe's will be bred in November in Indiana year in and year out. Younger doe's and doe's that missed getting bred first estrous cycle for whatever reason will simply get bred 2nd (Dec)or even in some case 3rd estrous cycle (Jan). Saying the whitetail rut happens same time year in and year out is boring and doesn't sell mjany magazine's so these prediction's seem to float around every year. Nailed it. Agree 100%. All breeding I’ve personally witnessed has been in November. The article I read says this year the peak should hit around the 4th. This is due to the 2nd full moon after the equinox. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 18:09:35 GMT -5
Yes, I agree, by gun season the does will be 100% in breeding mode and 3/4 finished. It still might be good because the bucks will be looking for the last one around the 18th. It's might be one of those years where yous sit for awhile (hours) and then in a moment a nice buck cruises by.
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 30, 2017 18:47:44 GMT -5
I doubt that 5% will be bred by 4th. Peak breeding is always around 10-20th. Seeking phase just started last 3-4 days which is usually followed by chasing phase for another 4-5 days. Only effect moon has is possible daytime movement but make no mistake best hunting is just starting and will continue the whole month November.
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Post by thebellcompany on Oct 30, 2017 20:51:40 GMT -5
Hey anyone, post a November calendar for projected deer movement. Thanks
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Post by solocam79 on Nov 1, 2017 12:38:03 GMT -5
First two weeks of November is the best time every year. The last two is usually lock down phase which I hate. Big boys just don't move much. Especially if you have alot of does like I do. Don't have to look hard to find them. Give me that seeking, chasing phase early November.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 12:47:47 GMT -5
3 years ago, I walked up to a doe and big buck bedded down in my yard (Saturday after Thanksgiving) at 10 yards he stood up. I didn't know he was there. We just stared at each other for 20 minutes. I didn't know the doe was about 6 yards away (between us). At the 20 minutes or so the doe stood up (scared the heck out of me) and took off, the buck then took off and followed her to the back of the woods. That's when I learned to hunt them like rabbits during breeding. Check every wood pile and thickest. Now at the end is a great time to sit. The big ones will look everywhere to find the late breeder. I think this years gun season will produce some record bucks. Perfect timing.
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Post by boonechaser on Nov 1, 2017 13:13:51 GMT -5
Just my experience but Ive always had better luck scoring on big bucks during dark cycles of moon. Most of moon guides show better hunting with full moon?  Really once breeding starts I don't think it much matters. just as likely see a big mature buck at 12 noon as in early morning or evening. |
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Post by butlerj on Nov 1, 2017 22:01:01 GMT -5
I have rarely seen deer on morning hunts after a night with a full moon, on my own experience.
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Post by butlerj on Nov 1, 2017 22:02:13 GMT -5
I have rarely seen deer on morning hunts after a night with a full moon, on my own experience.
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Post by solocam79 on Nov 2, 2017 18:58:19 GMT -5
I'm a taxidermist, I have more deer brought in, and thru my years of hunting personally, the waning crescent moon has always produced alot of buck daytime movement. By far its my favorite moon to hunt. This month I believe it falls on the 11-17th.
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Post by thebellcompany on Nov 3, 2017 9:39:35 GMT -5
I here to testify, I am officially a believer in deer movement based on lunar activity. I hunt a lot. To compensate for the amount of time I spend in the woods I hunt a lot of different stand locations so I don’t teach the deer where I am. It’s so hard staying away from your favorite stands for weeks at a time but I’ve seen many more deer this year with moving around. So I’ve been keeping track of when I see deer and when I have pics on trail cams, and I’ve become convinced that deer in my area are proving the deer movement calendar correct. Like I say I hunt a lot, and the days and times I see deer, I’ll see them come through and check my calendar later on and sure enough it’s becoming fairly consistent. And I hunt public land where you’d think all the deer should be nocturnal by now with all the human activity. I set up a trail cam near a newer stand u just hung 4 days ago because I suspected deer movement through that area, and had trail cam pics from 11:30am-12:30pm 2 days in a row, also had pics at 12:33am also lines up perfectly. And that’s just one example. The way I see it the deer haven’t been nocturnal the past 2 weeks in that “October lull” they’ve been moving instinctually and I think the moon had something to do with that! I mention public land too because they just behave a lot differently on public than on private. They’re a lot more elusive on public any little change to their environment and they spook.
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Really once breeding starts I don't think it much matters. just as likely see a big mature buck at 12 noon as in early morning or evening.