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Post by boonechaser on Dec 19, 2017 13:32:50 GMT -5
Not sure how many deer are killed in park hunts annually. Maybe someone has those figure's for last 2 years? I'd guess 1500 or so?? Youth last 2 year's were around 4,000 per year.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 19, 2017 13:54:43 GMT -5
Youth kills are included because the count against your lic...park use not be counted probably because they didn't go against lic.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 19, 2017 13:59:14 GMT -5
Not sure how many deer are killed in park hunts annually. Maybe someone has those figure's for last 2 years? I'd guess 1500 or so?? Youth last 2 year's were around 4,000 per year. www.in.gov/dnr/parklake/files/sp-DeerRMRR.pdf
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 19, 2017 14:07:44 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 19, 2017 14:15:48 GMT -5
If you look back over the previous 15-25 years...we have always went through cycles of increasing then decreasing harvest totals. Typically these last 2-3 years with only once did a 5 year window show the same trend which was 2001-2005 (5yrs) when harvests increased each year...likewise though 1997-2000 (4yrs) all were decreases. TRUE...We'll never know but I bet even had the opening weekend of firearms not been terrible for hunting I expected us to be slightly below last year...just following trends. I don't think so... Archery was up, MZ will be up and barring any significant nasty weather I think the late "special season" will be up. Also statewide archery goes an extra 6 days this year..............
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 19, 2017 14:21:50 GMT -5
Woody this is true....it most likely would have been within .5% up or down most likely had the weather been better.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 20, 2017 7:36:29 GMT -5
Current reported deer harvest: 105,831 From Sept 15, 2017 to Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 6:35 am CST That is 339 registered since yesterday That is 7,576 deer registered for the muzzleoader season so far. Last year we killed 7,990 in Muzzleloader season. Deer harvest numbers are updated as deer are checked in via CheckIN Game. All numbers are raw data that have not been verified by the Indiana DNR. www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/8367.htm
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 20, 2017 8:19:45 GMT -5
Cannot find it but roughly how much lower was that first day everyone thinking? 9K or so lower than norm?
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Post by js2397 on Dec 20, 2017 8:41:07 GMT -5
Cannot find it but roughly how much lower was that first day everyone thinking? 9K or so lower than norm? About 19,000
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 20, 2017 9:34:07 GMT -5
Cannot find it but roughly how much lower was that first day everyone thinking? 9K or so lower than norm? About 19,000 So the estimate is that opening day was down 19K deer compared to a normal year....HOLY CRAP I guess I didn't notice it was that big of a drop from norm.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 20, 2017 9:58:05 GMT -5
So the estimate is that opening day was down 19K deer compared to a normal year....HOLY CRAP I guess I didn't notice it was that big of a drop from norm. That was down from last year opening day..... no sure what the "Normal" is being it not always on the same date year to year. Maybe someone can do a average kill number vs the "Normal"....
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Post by swilk on Dec 20, 2017 10:28:18 GMT -5
2000 November 18 22,893 2001 November 17 19,951 2002 November 16 22,829 2003 November 15 21,423 2004 November 13 29,858 2005 November 12 26,709 2006 November 18 25,254 2007 November 17 26,305 2008 November 15 17,418 2009 November 14 24,832 2010 November 13 24,761 2011 November 12 25,801 2012 November 17 25,786 2013 November 16 20,690 2014 November 15 23,853 2015 November 14 26,038 2016 November 12 25,231
Average for these 17 seasons is 24,096
Average for the last 5 seasons is 24,320
We will not know exactly how many deer were killed on opening day of this year until the report comes out next year .... we have 48 hours to check in killed deer so we cannot go by the checked in number that we currently have access to. Its gonna be lower ... a lot lower. Just wont know exactly how much lower till spring.
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 20, 2017 10:48:53 GMT -5
2000 November 18 22,893 2001 November 17 19,951 2002 November 16 22,829 2003 November 15 21,423 2004 November 13 29,858 2005 November 12 26,709 2006 November 18 25,254 2007 November 17 26,305 2008 November 15 17,418 2009 November 14 24,832 2010 November 13 24,761 2011 November 12 25,801 2012 November 17 25,786 2013 November 16 20,690 2014 November 15 23,853 2015 November 14 26,038 2016 November 12 25,231 Average for these 17 seasons is 24,096 Average for the last 5 seasons is 24,320 We will not know exactly how many deer were killed on opening day of this year until the report comes out next year .... we have 48 hours to check in killed deer so we cannot go by the checked in number that we currently have access to. Its gonna be lower ... a lot lower. Just wont know exactly how much lower till spring. Holy smokes....so IF weather had been good, we most likely would be above last year's totals....
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Post by swilk on Dec 20, 2017 10:53:26 GMT -5
Impossible to say ..... once we get away from the numbers its nothing more than speculation.
Im not going to go through and look up weather conditions on each of these opening days but I will go out on a limb and say that there hasnt been an opening day as bas as this one in my lifetime. Not even close.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 20, 2017 11:06:08 GMT -5
Weather forecast is looking pretty nasty for southern Indiana this weekend. Heavy rain Friday afternoon, Rain Saturday, Rain Sunday turning to sleet and snow and windy. Fitting end to 2017 for me.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 20, 2017 11:07:01 GMT -5
2000 November 18 22,893 2001 November 17 19,951 2002 November 16 22,829 2003 November 15 21,423 2004 November 13 29,858 2005 November 12 26,709 2006 November 18 25,254 2007 November 17 26,305 2008 November 15 17,418 2009 November 14 24,832 2010 November 13 24,761 2011 November 12 25,801 2012 November 17 25,786 2013 November 16 20,690 2014 November 15 23,853 2015 November 14 26,038 2016 November 12 25,231 Average for these 17 seasons is 24,096 Average for the last 5 seasons is 24,320 We will not know exactly how many deer were killed on opening day of this year until the report comes out next year .... we have 48 hours to check in killed deer so we cannot go by the checked in number that we currently have access to. Its gonna be lower ... a lot lower. Just wont know exactly how much lower till spring. Holy smokes....so IF weather had been good, we most likely would be above last year's totals....
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 20, 2017 11:13:01 GMT -5
I don't buy much into opening day weather BECAUSE if you didn't hunt or weather affected deer movement on Saturday you simply hunted on Sunday or the second weekend so number of deer not taken on opening day were simply taken on another day in firearm's. Those number's should average out over the whole season. That's why IDNR doesn't have a short firearms season. A longer season enables hunter's to make up for a couple days bad weather. Looks like going to see the same in muzzy. season as forecast for this weekend is crappy.
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 20, 2017 11:38:25 GMT -5
I don't buy much into opening day weather BECAUSE if you didn't hunt or weather affected deer movement on Saturday you simply hunted on Sunday or the second weekend so number of deer not taken on opening day were simply taken on another day in firearm's. Those number's should average out over the whole season. That's why IDNR doesn't have a short firearms season. A longer season enables hunter's to make up for a couple days bad weather. Looks like going to see the same in muzzy. season as forecast for this weekend is crappy. I can list a dozen folks in my head without even blinking that only hunt that opening day with family or friends....if I was forced I'd bet I could easily hit two dozen. **a few sometimes will go Thanksgiving again but most don't as they shoot the first thing on Saturday.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 20, 2017 11:53:27 GMT -5
Again I think majority if went to trouble of buying a licensed simply hunted on Sunday or the following weekend. (It's all hypothetical as there is no way of knowing.) Regardless harvest is certainly going to be down , which has been DNR objective. The naysayers will point out to weather on opening day as being the reason harvest down. The opposite side will say it's because deer herd has been reduced to far as reason harvest is. I'm guessing there is truth on both sides of the arguement.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 20, 2017 12:45:41 GMT -5
Impossible to say ..... once we get away from the numbers its nothing more than speculation. Im not going to go through and look up weather conditions on each of these opening days but I will go out on a limb and say that there hasnt been an opening day as bas as this one in my lifetime. Not even close. I’ve got 49 opening days under my belt and this year was the first one I EVER missed and I had my grandson from NY here to hunt with me. I told him to forget it and we would make our opening day on Sunday. A lot of the state had bad weather Sunday too. Yep, I blame the opening weekend for the big drop in numbers. Since the MZ seasons is pretty well on schedule to top last year I’m saying that in most areas the deer herd is just fine.
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