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Post by TolusD on Jan 24, 2017 14:57:22 GMT -5
Hello everyone, I'm just getting back into hunting after a long dry spell. I don't have any connections or hunting buddies to help me find a good private hunting ground either. That's one of the reasons I signed up here : ) In searching for places to hunt, I came across a few Web sites selling land leases to hunters. None of them looked particularly cheap and the different leases were for a lot of different types of country all over the state. I was wondering a couple of things: - Does anyone here use these to get access to land?
- Have any of you ever done a kind of group-buy thing where several of us pitch in to buy into something like this?
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Post by featherduster on Jan 24, 2017 16:54:28 GMT -5
I was a member of a small group of duck hunters (8) that rented a farm for nearly 30 years.
We purchased and installed pumps that were used to flood this farm,we had permanent blinds and a very nice mobile home that we stayed at for days on end.
We purchased items such as decoys and ammo as a group and got discount rates.
We payed equal amounts,had club rules and we along with our sons and even grandsons got along well the only reason we dropped the lease was because the source of ducks dried up.
You don't need a company to find you a lease you need to get out there and start doing your homework.
PS: don't let everybody and there brother know what you are up to because just as sure as I am typing this someone will try to cut you out of your lease.
ADVISE:take real good care of the property,and the property owners as well.
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Post by TolusD on Jan 24, 2017 17:22:49 GMT -5
I was a member of a small group of duck hunters (8) that rented a farm for nearly 30 years. We purchased and installed pumps that were used to flood this farm,we had permanent blinds and a very nice mobile home that we stayed at for days on end. We purchased items such as decoys and ammo as a group and got discount rates. We payed equal amounts,had club rules and we along with our sons and even grandsons got along well the only reason we dropped the lease was because the source of ducks dried up. You don't need a company to find you a lease you need to get out there and start doing your homework. PS: don't let everybody and there brother know what you are up to because just as sure as I am typing this someone will try to cut you out of your lease. ADVISE:take real good care of the property,and the property owners as well. That's definitely golden advice. I really appreciate it. Can you elaborate on the homework part? I honestly don't know where to start. We never had leases or anything like that as a kid. We always knew a guy who knew a guy who knew where to go. |
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Post by featherduster on Jan 24, 2017 18:00:10 GMT -5
What do you want to hunt,how far from home will you travel,is there any other game that can be pursued on that property,HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO SPEND.
Find an area that has what you would want to have as a dream lease and start talking to land owners.
A good plat book is a must.
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Post by TolusD on Jan 24, 2017 20:06:46 GMT -5
What do you want to hunt,how far from home will you travel,is there any other game that can be pursued on that property,HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO SPEND. Find an area that has what you would want to have as a dream lease and start talking to land owners. A good plat book is a must. I want to hunt as close to everything as I can. If I have a lease and I can come and go as I please then it can really be anywhere in the state. As far as what I can spend, I think my budget would be in the neighborhood of $500 to $750. That's why I was hoping you guys on here were doing group buys or had some kind of sharing system worked out. |
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Post by span870 on Jan 24, 2017 21:02:36 GMT -5
Why not just hunt public land? 100's of thousands of acres. Get you a GPS and find out of the way small spots. You'd be surprised how many you'll have to yourself.
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Post by TolusD on Jan 24, 2017 21:08:57 GMT -5
Why not just hunt public land? 100's of thousands of acres. Get you a GPS and find out of the way small spots. You'd be surprised how many you'll have to yourself. I don't have any problem hunting public land at all. I just can't use a rifle there and it's what I know best for deer. All my shotgunning experience is with birds. Even rabbits I prefer a .22 for. I guess at the end of the day I'm a rifle guy. |
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Post by davers on Jan 25, 2017 5:40:18 GMT -5
Why not just hunt public land? 100's of thousands of acres. Get you a GPS and find out of the way small spots. You'd be surprised how many you'll have to yourself. I don't have any problem hunting public land at all. I just can't use a rifle there and it's what I know best for deer. All my shotgunning experience is with birds. Even rabbits I prefer a .22 for. I guess at the end of the day I'm a rifle guy. I believe you can use a P.C.R (Pistol Cartridge Rifle) on some public lands, in Indiana. If not then buy a rifled barrel and use sabot slugs for hunting Deer. |
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Post by beermaker on Jan 25, 2017 5:48:27 GMT -5
Considering your budget, you will need to join a group or find the land yourself. I don't think you will find anything via a leasing agent that will be within your budget.
I just committed to a lease yesterday. When I have some time, I will post how I found it and what my search criteria was. I am very excited to say the least!
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Post by duff on Jan 25, 2017 6:26:33 GMT -5
Homework equals a sales search. Develop a list of land owners to talk to. Proceed to knock on doors.
Know a guy who found a place and only had to pay $300 for the year and he splits that with another guy. Very reasonable. Possible but not common.
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Post by span870 on Jan 25, 2017 8:27:59 GMT -5
Cheaper to build a 358 Hoosier and hunt public, if you're stuck using a rifle, than leading a property year after year.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Jan 25, 2017 8:34:56 GMT -5
I almost got into leasing a few years ago, but had to decide between out of state trips and an Indiana hunting lease. I can go on 2 big game hunts out west each year, and have access to millions of acres of public land, for less than the going rate of a 50 acre lease around here.
I've started utilizing the HNF around here a lot more the last couple years, and the hunting has been a lot better than I expected; just as good as my 2 small private property spots.
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Post by TolusD on Jan 25, 2017 8:58:47 GMT -5
I don't have any problem hunting public land at all. I just can't use a rifle there and it's what I know best for deer. All my shotgunning experience is with birds. Even rabbits I prefer a .22 for. I guess at the end of the day I'm a rifle guy. I believe you can use a P.C.R (Pistol Cartridge Rifle) on some public lands, in Indiana. If not then buy a rifled barrel and use sabot slugs for hunting Deer. I have my eye on a .44mag Ruger M77 bolt gun or if I'm real lucky a Deerstalker carbine. I got the American for less than half what either of those cost so I got it first. : ) |
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Post by TolusD on Jan 25, 2017 9:04:42 GMT -5
I almost got into leasing a few years ago, but had to decide between out of state trips and an Indiana hunting lease. I can go on 2 big game hunts out west each year, and have access to millions of acres of public land, for less than the going rate of a 50 acre lease around here. I've started utilizing the HNF around here a lot more the last couple years, and the hunting has been a lot better than I expected; just as good as my 2 small private property spots. This is the other reason I went ahead and bought the American in .308. I really do want to hunt out west in the rockies and see that land from the ground. Do you use a guide service? If so do you mind sharing it? |
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Post by davers on Jan 25, 2017 9:13:32 GMT -5
I believe you can use a P.C.R (Pistol Cartridge Rifle) on some public lands, in Indiana. If not then buy a rifled barrel and use sabot slugs for hunting Deer. I have my eye on a .44mag Ruger M77 bolt gun or if I'm real lucky a Deerstalker carbine. I got the American for less than half what either of those cost so I got it first. : ) If you decide to go ahead and purchase a Ruger 77/.44 Magnum rifle; you might consider purchasing a VOLQUARTSEN - RUGER 77/22 TARGET SEAR. The factory trigger is way to heavy and your Ruger will be more accurate with a lighter trigger pull. I have one ordered for my Ruger 77/44, and also I installed one on my Ruger 77/.22 Hornet. On my Hornet 5-shot groups shrunk from 2" to .75" @ 100 yards. Also getting one for my Brothers' Ruger 77/22. Replacing the Sear & Spring is a very easy procedure too. |
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Post by TolusD on Jan 25, 2017 9:23:19 GMT -5
I've been a Volquartsen fan for a very long time. I built a 10/22 with their parts back in the day when they only made one rifle and mixed parts out of a pole barn in the backyard. That thing is still the best shooting most accurate rifle I've ever owned. I took many a squirrel and rabbit with it and a fair share of doves and a couple of grouse.
I didn't know they were making 77 parts now. I need to check out their Web site...
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Post by davers on Jan 25, 2017 9:36:10 GMT -5
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Post by tynimiller on Jan 25, 2017 10:23:11 GMT -5
Honestly, be cheaper if you are gonna buy something for public lands to just do a Muzzleloader. Pretty much modern inline with practice and load selection is a 200-250 yard range harvesting tool for sure. And can be had relatively cheap compared to some of the things mentioned.
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Post by steiny on Jan 25, 2017 10:38:47 GMT -5
I've been leasing hunting ground for over ten years, currently have a 260 acre lease that a friend and I split on. Your budget is pretty low, so you will probably need a partner. You can probably pick up 80 acres of decent deer ground for somewhere around $1500-1800 per year.
Leasing gets a lot of negative comments on these forums. People get mad because the place they used to hunt for free is no longer available and leased by outsiders. It's just the way of the world these days, you have to pay to play, and land owners need the income. Going through one of the leasing companies is just real easy for the average guy. I've used both Basecamp leasing and The Hunting lease network, no trouble with either. Good luck !
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Post by TolusD on Jan 25, 2017 10:56:37 GMT -5
Honestly, be cheaper if you are gonna buy something for public lands to just do a Muzzleloader. Pretty much modern inline with practice and load selection is a 200-250 yard range harvesting tool for sure. And can be had relatively cheap compared to some of the things mentioned. My brother swears by his TC inline. He takes deer almost every season in OH with his. I have no experience with them and the little time I put in with muzzleloaders growing up was spent being frustrated with all the little problems I had with the CVA Hawken kit rifle we put together. I just prefer modern rifles I think. I'd double my arguments with my wife if I bought the gear for a whole new weapon system. |
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