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Post by huntnandplumbn on Nov 30, 2016 10:57:01 GMT -5
Call the police and wait for police. Tell your story and see what happens. If deer had a gun shot a round in vital area I would dare to say you would have probably gotten deer. Seems very odd to me that you offered to pay for damages and he opted to keep deer instead??? Doesn't make sense to me. Oh,well it's already over. Honestly It was an old farm truck and I don't believe that the guy gave a darn about the truck. Believe me when I say that I told this guy I was willing to pay for the truck at a premium price. He saw the size of the deer and wanted it. Again I don't disagree that he would need a tag but ultimately the cops would've showed up and I don't believe for a second I was going to get the deer. To add insult to injury the property is over 500 acres and the beast manages to find his way off of it... Yep, bad luck
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Post by greghopper on Nov 30, 2016 11:05:42 GMT -5
With a arrow hole in the deer you had a real good chance...especially if it was dead when he hit it.
If it was alive and he hit it that's another story....no different then shooting a deer that's been shot already. Last killing shot is the OWNER.
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Post by boonechaser on Nov 30, 2016 12:36:04 GMT -5
Just because you hit a deer with a vehicle doesn't mean you automatically get to keep deer. And if the driver left with deer without reporting accident he broke several laws. 1- leaving seen of property damage accident 2- illegal possession of whitetail deer.
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 30, 2016 13:33:28 GMT -5
What kind of person would want another hunter's antlers? I could understand if the guy wanted a full freezer, but there is no excuse for wanting the head.
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Post by brokenarrow on Nov 30, 2016 14:24:33 GMT -5
What kind of person would want another hunter's antlers? I could understand if the guy wanted a full freezer, but there is no excuse for wanting the head. The bigest buck I ever harvested was with a bow tie. It just happened to be on 465. Someone seen me hit it, turned around and came back and offered me 100 bucks for it. I asked if he was in a big buck pool and sure enough his answer was "yes"... I told him no way... The rack is hanging in my garage with a cracked skull... One whole side of the deer was lost to severe bruising. Unfortunately it didn't quite fill my freezer...
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Post by Tippyarcher on Nov 30, 2016 14:35:41 GMT -5
That's some bad luck/timing for sure!! Here is to a great muzzy season for you!!!
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Post by huntnandplumbn on Nov 30, 2016 14:41:12 GMT -5
Just because you hit a deer with a vehicle doesn't mean you automatically get to keep deer. And if the driver left with deer without reporting accident he broke several laws. 1- leaving seen of property damage accident 2- illegal possession of whitetail deer. I cannot think of a time that I've hear of someone hitting a deer and not being able to keep it if they so choose. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't believe it to be illegal to leave the scene of a deer collision if you cause it and only hurt your own vehicle. I kind of doubt that the old truck will ever see a repair shop from this. Agreed that the deer should have a tag on it but honestly it was not on the top of my list to make sure he tagged my deer properly.
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Post by huntnandplumbn on Nov 30, 2016 15:05:17 GMT -5
What kind of person would want another hunter's antlers? I could understand if the guy wanted a full freezer, but there is no excuse for wanting the head. I agree 100% not sure why someone would do that. I'm sure that his freezer is full now and maybe he will brag to his friends of his monster buck.
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Post by jimstc on Nov 30, 2016 17:19:59 GMT -5
This an incredible thread! Thanks for the story. You absolutely couldn't make this up. What is the probability of this happening. It is like the reverse of winning the lottery. Darn. Good luck for muzzle loader season.
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Post by chriskline on Dec 1, 2016 9:28:40 GMT -5
Just because you hit a deer with a vehicle doesn't mean you automatically get to keep deer. And if the driver left with deer without reporting accident he broke several laws. 1- leaving seen of property damage accident 2- illegal possession of whitetail deer. Deer-car collision is not a property damage accident. he could have used his own state tags on the deer, he doesnt have to wait to get a tag from an officer (i've done that with a doe hit late in the year). as long as the deer is tagged, it doesnt matter how.
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Post by beermanbrian on Dec 1, 2016 11:50:45 GMT -5
Just because you hit a deer with a vehicle doesn't mean you automatically get to keep deer. And if the driver left with deer without reporting accident he broke several laws. 1- leaving seen of property damage accident 2- illegal possession of whitetail deer. Deer-car collision is not a property damage accident. he could have used his own state tags on the deer, he doesnt have to wait to get a tag from an officer (i've done that with a doe hit late in the year). as long as the deer is tagged, it doesnt matter how. Agreed. Only illegal to leave if you damage property that is not yours. Although you are supposed to have tag on deer, I know of deputies that show up to deer collisions and aren't going to wait on a CO if someone wants the deer. And yes if you hit a deer it is yours if you want it under normal circumstances.
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 1, 2016 12:03:40 GMT -5
Usually county sherriff has the form for a road kill or find. A CO doesn't need be involved unless there is some kind of dispute
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Dec 1, 2016 12:50:53 GMT -5
Well what can I say if it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all. I took my vacation time November 4 - 14 this year. From some of TNT previous posts you may have been able to tell that I was having a rough go due to standing corn and the weather kinda sucked. I made the decision mid week to hang a stand in a 40 acre chunk of woods that has been a dedicated sanctuary for 3 years (I've literally not stepped foot in it during that time) but the farmer cut a row right next to it. Entry would be a breeze as it's only 50 yards off of the road and extends further into the farm and is at most 80 yards wide. Anyhow let's just say I found a good spot as the action picked up. My downfall is that my successes at chasing big bucks has made me a little picky at this stage. On the Friday before gun season I was at the end of an all day sit when I got my shot at a bruiser. It was a heart shot for sure and he bolted from the way he came. This is the bad luck part.... a freaking truck hit the deer as it apparently made its furious death run. I "heard" it all go down so I made my way to the roadway in a hurry. Priority one was is everyone ok... they were. Priority two getting my deer... I was unsuccessful. The guy had an older truck so after asking if I could have the deer and showing him that I had in fact shot it I offered to fix the damage followed by me attempting to buy the truck outright. I called Winamac fish and wildlife main office as they are close by and I know their is usually DNR in the area to see if I had any options. Nope I didn't.... Goodbye deer So I've packed up my toys since then and had to take a break for a bit. I'm going to head out for muzzleloader I guess and see what happens. Apologies for the long story but I've been told I just need to smile about it.... I'm trying to smile 👍 Man, we love stories! Thanks for sharing it. Wow, so the guy in the truck took it? I'm just not thinking that I could do it. Anyone who's ever lost a deer, should certainly help in anyway to retrieve it back to the rightful owner. This prompts me to ask a question: If hunting and one sees a deer running by and drops it, however, the deer had just been shot by another, who does this deer belong to? The first guy who shot it or the guy who dropped it?
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Dec 1, 2016 12:51:32 GMT -5
With a arrow hole in the deer you had a real good chance...especially if it was dead when he hit it. If it was alive and he hit it that's another story....no different then shooting a deer that's been shot already. Last killing shot is the OWNER. You answered my question before I got to read it. So then I should drop a deer as quickly at possible, like a neck shot ...if using a firearm.
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Post by onebentarrow on Dec 1, 2016 13:01:50 GMT -5
Had that happen. I was second shooter. Told the guy if 2 holes in the boiler room he is yours cause he was dead on his feet but if only one hole in the chest cavity he was mine. Rolled deer over only one hole and he said he is yours I shoot slugs and the hole is to small to be a slug. For me it is ethics. I do not feel right if I shoot a dead deer on its feet to TAKE it away from the right full owner. But I guess there are people (notice I did not use hunters) that take dead deer they find that some one is still tracking. I hope I never run in to that situation because I am normally easy going but if you mess with.my hunting I get real stupid mad real quick!!!
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 1, 2016 13:19:51 GMT -5
after he refused to give the deer, I would have got his license plate and give him my info. Tell him when you want your new found unexplainable bad luck to stop, I will pay you for the rack. Otherwise you asked for it.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Dec 1, 2016 13:43:08 GMT -5
after he refused to give the deer, I would have got his license plate and give him my info. Tell him when you want your new found unexplainable bad luck to stop, I will pay you for the rack. Otherwise you asked for it. About 40 years ago, I read a poem: There is a destiny, which makes us brothers. No one goes there way alone. What we send out into the lives of others comes back into our own.
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Post by firstwd on Dec 1, 2016 14:41:13 GMT -5
I had a deer (easily over 150") get around a hill at BCSP and heard two quick shots. As soon as I came around the hill (following the blood trail) a guy said "he came from that way", and pointed the opposite way. His partner look extremely guilty.
I walked over a saw my smaller hole in the deer's neck. I told the guy congratulations and left them to the 400 foot or so drag up the very steep hill. I went back to the point of shot and found I had grazed a tree and my shot was off. The deer would not have made it far, even could have been down when the guy shot it, but not worth the effort to fight for it.
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Post by drfleck on Dec 1, 2016 15:27:12 GMT -5
after he refused to give the deer, I would have got his license plate and give him my info. Tell him when you want your new found unexplainable bad luck to stop, I will pay you for the rack. Otherwise you asked for it. I like the cut of your jib sir
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Post by chriskline on Dec 1, 2016 16:11:36 GMT -5
I had a deer (easily over 150") get around a hill at BCSP and heard two quick shots. As soon as I came around the hill (following the blood trail) a guy said "he came from that way", and pointed the opposite way. His partner look extremely guilty. I walked over a saw my smaller hole in the deer's neck. I told the guy congratulations and left them to the 400 foot or so drag up the very steep hill. I went back to the point of shot and found I had grazed a tree and my shot was off. The deer would not have made it far, even could have been down when the guy shot it, but not worth the effort to fight for it. One thing my dad always told me about hunting: "Nothing good can happen when 2 guys holding guns get into a fight in the woods. Just walk away."
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