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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 6, 2017 7:13:17 GMT -5
Numbers have really slowed down. Not sure we will make 120,000?
Current reported deer harvest 119,242From Sept 15, 2016 to Friday, January 6, 2017 Deer harvest numbers are updated as deer are checked in via CheckIN Game. All numbers are raw data that have not been verified by the Indiana DNR. www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/8367.htm[/div]
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Post by trapperdave on Jan 6, 2017 9:50:59 GMT -5
Now now...those hyper long range rifles of herd destruction are going to make a record harvest. Must be a glitch in the system somewhere
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Post by throbak on Jan 6, 2017 15:33:32 GMT -5
Now now...those hyper long range rifles of herd destruction are going to make a record harvest. Must be a glitch in the system somewhere We need to see the breakdown of harvest for weapon types before any conclusion can be made Shotgun,Archery,crossbow,muzzleloader are down And HPR rifles are up considerably I would say Yes it made a impact on the Harvest imo
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 6, 2017 15:57:38 GMT -5
Many hunters just opted to use rifle vs. shotgun ,muzzy . Just as in my case I used rifle but deer was 18 yards. How many deer were harvested that would not have been if not for HP rifle? No way of knowing.
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Post by jjas on Jan 6, 2017 16:04:22 GMT -5
throbak
I'm a bit confused by your post...
In the first sentence you say we need to ssee the breakdown of harvest for weapon types before any conclusion can be made...
Then in the second sentence you say hpr rifles are up considerably, I would say Yes it make an impact on the harvest...
So do we need a breakdown or have you seen data somewhere about hprs that I haven't?
Just curious....
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Post by esshup on Jan 6, 2017 16:16:33 GMT -5
Now now...those hyper long range rifles of herd destruction are going to make a record harvest. Must be a glitch in the system somewhere We need to see the breakdown of harvest for weapon types before any conclusion can be made Shotgun,Archery,crossbow,muzzleloader are down And HPR rifles are up considerably I would say Yes it made a impact on the Harvest imo The deer that I shot with the .243 would have been shot with the muzzleloader last year. So, for me, my personal harvest numbers are the same, just different equipment used.
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Post by arlowe13 on Jan 6, 2017 16:48:57 GMT -5
I know I passed up on 100+ opportunities to shoot a doe with a bow because I WANTED to shoot one with my .308. Now that I've done it, I'm back to taking a doe early with my bow in 2017.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Jan 6, 2017 19:55:46 GMT -5
Now now...those hyper long range rifles of herd destruction are going to make a record harvest. Must be a glitch in the system somewhere We need to see the breakdown of harvest for weapon types before any conclusion can be made Shotgun,Archery,crossbow,muzzleloader are down And HPR rifles are up considerably I would say Yes it made a impact on the Harvest imo Wouldn't HPR be up no matter what, since it started at 0.
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Post by deerhunter23 on Jan 6, 2017 19:58:14 GMT -5
Many hunters just opted to use rifle vs. shotgun ,muzzy . Just as in my case I used rifle but deer was 18 yards. How many deer were harvested that would not have been if not for HP rifle? No way of knowing. What rifle did you use this year boone?
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 6, 2017 20:05:36 GMT -5
.308. Bought for coyote's
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 10, 2017 7:48:06 GMT -5
Current reported deer harvest 119,296From Sept 15, 2016 to Tuesday, January 10, 2017 Deer harvest numbers are updated as deer are checked in via CheckIN Game. All numbers are raw data that have not been verified by the Indiana DNR. www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/8367.htm
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 10, 2017 7:48:58 GMT -5
It doesn't look like we will hit 120,000...
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jan 10, 2017 8:09:44 GMT -5
Got to go back to 2003 for a year we didn't hit over 120's.
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Post by jjas on Jan 10, 2017 9:16:31 GMT -5
In the end, if herd reduction is having the designed effect, harvest numbers should lower and settle out. I know many hunters don't like it, but that's what is supposed to happen. Does that mean somewhere around 120,000 is the "new normal" as far as harvest totals goes? I don't know, but based on the last few seasons that's where the numbers are.
That doesn't mean there aren't areas that may have had too many deer taken (or in some cases, perceived to have had too many deer taken), but to expect the DNR to be able to "micro manage" the herd by sections of counties is unrealistic. IMO, that responsibility falls to the hunters.
Things that seemingly get lost in the endless arguments on forums such as these, are the effects that hunter numbers, hunter density, loss of habitat due to development, and today's farming practices have on deer numbers as well.
Regardless, I'm looking forward to seeing the new harvest report and the breakdown of data it provides.
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Post by tynimiller on Jan 10, 2017 9:40:52 GMT -5
jjas, agreed. I kinda expected we'd flirt with 120 but not make it. I'd even expect next year might be tick lower say round 115K or 117K. I expect us over the next 5 years to be somewhere between 110K to 120K for as herd reduction is stabilizing.
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Post by GS1 on Jan 10, 2017 10:29:43 GMT -5
Theoretically, if the DNR is lowering county limits shouldn't the harvest lower also? I mean, people are allowed to kill less deer.
I know, very, very few people kill the county limit, but if people want to blame high limits for excessive harvest, it should be factored in as well.
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Post by tynimiller on Jan 10, 2017 10:38:54 GMT -5
Theoretically, if the DNR is lowering county limits shouldn't the harvest lower also? I mean, people are allowed to kill less deer. I know, very, very few people kill the county limit, but if people want to blame high limits for excessive harvest, it should be factored in as well. Yup, and lowering them they have. Honestly, while some may not like it harvest totals and the overall statewide herd is doing precisely as planned.
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Post by jjas on Jan 10, 2017 11:42:26 GMT -5
jjas, agreed. I kinda expected we'd flirt with 120 but not make it. I'd even expect next year might be tick lower say round 115K or 117K. I expect us over the next 5 years to be somewhere between 110K to 120K for as herd reduction is stabilizing. I think you are likely correct, but there's always the wild cards of weather and EHD that always seem to creep in to the equation...
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 10, 2017 12:04:50 GMT -5
My home county was lowered from a 8 to 4 antlerless this year and I doubt harvest numbers will be lower. Very few hunters take 4 deer in a season. Be interesting to see harvest totals by county.
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Post by throbak on Jan 10, 2017 15:36:52 GMT -5
I bet it doesn't either ;Boone
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