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Post by jjas on Sept 8, 2016 19:09:57 GMT -5
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Post by thecommissioner on Sept 8, 2016 19:48:38 GMT -5
The article's author is either ultra-sensitive to the impact of a few highly publicized incidents or else he is related to Chicken Little. He is, pardon the cliche, barking up the wrong tree.
What will end hunting is the lack of recruitment of the younger generation due to habitat loss which leads to less hunting land or land that is affordable to hunt on. So many of the places I hunted in my youth in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Iowa, and New York that were prime small game habitat are now housing developments or ditch to ditch crops with no fence rows, swales, etc. And what's left, well good luck knocking on the door and getting permission to hunt if you are a high school kid unknown to the landowner.
The next generation may get more involved in hunting, but it will likely be virtual reality gaming in the comfort of one's home.
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 8, 2016 20:25:27 GMT -5
I agree with thecommissioner
A lot a ground is tied up for strictly deer hunting and trophy buck management. Kids used to be brought up on small game hunting where some sort of action was almost guaranteed.
Now kids can sit for hours on end not seeing anything when deer hunting.... They can get bored and quit before they really get started good..
I'm not real optimistic about the long term viability of hunting. I think we will end up like Eurooe and hunting will be a rich man's sport..
Sad...
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Post by bill9068 on Sept 8, 2016 20:51:10 GMT -5
While I share your concerns keep in mind hunting is a multi billion dollar business. The demise of hunting in my opinion will be loss of habitat. When I was working I drove over a three state area, in Kentucky there are school districts that dismiss school on deer season opening day. I have always heard follow the money and thats where a blogger added up the deer license sold in just 3 states, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan totaling over 2.3 million, now add up the other 47 states and the number of hunters is millions more. The only other way we will lose hunting privilege is if the courts are stacked with non hunting liberals who deny us that privilege.
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Post by thecommissioner on Sept 8, 2016 21:04:53 GMT -5
While I share your concerns keep in mind hunting is a multi billion dollar business. The demise of hunting in my opinion will be loss of habitat. When I was working I drove over a three state area, in Kentucky there are school districts that dismiss school on deer season opening day. I have always heard follow the money and thats where a blogger added up the deer license sold in just 3 states, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan totaling over 2.3 million, now add up the other 47 states and the number of hunters is millions more. The only other way we will lose hunting privilege is if the courts are stacked with non hunting liberals who deny us that privilege. I agree with your opinion about habitat. But no one should discount Woody's fear that hunting will become a sport for the wealthy. Yes, there is a ton of money in the sport, but you must have a place to play. Though many of those places were once free, now admission is charged. Add the cost of access to 'quality' land to the other costs and the market gets smaller. |
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Post by bill9068 on Sept 8, 2016 21:10:50 GMT -5
Agreed, follow the money. Lots of manufacturers of hunting products, but no one produces hunting property. Good point.
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Post by INhuntin on Sept 8, 2016 21:30:33 GMT -5
Woody I believe most of what you are saying but the only way hunting will go away is if we allow the insurance co.s to dictate how many deer we can have per acre.
They have us cut back now to just about minimum because in the last 5 years I have seen a drastic drop in the amount of shootable deer. Last season I passed on everything didn't see an deer worth taking.
I don't care if underarmor ever sells another piece of hunting wear, because I don't buy it, never will.
That is what tends to make this a rich mans sport, having to buy what the so called experts say you need, sorry I have never fallen for it. I buy what makes sense to buy & what I think will work.
That is why this type of forum is so important we as hunters can report back to the other hunters what we find that works & what we have found to be BS.
So I don't believe it will become a rich mans sport as long as we as hunters stay involved, get our youth involved & don't try to kill every deer in the woods. Just my thoughts.
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Post by jackryan on Sept 8, 2016 23:00:43 GMT -5
I'll put this in the context of some of these TV reality shows, including those who are pretending to be hunting shows. Alaska shows, survival shows, and the corniest one of all the Live Free or Die show. Yes I watch that stupid crap.
Hunters and all their hokey "Oh thank you deer, you gave up your live to feed me and feed my family. I say a little prayer just to show my respect and love for this beautiful animal... blah blah blah sugary crap until I want to puke..." In my humble opinion all that flowery blarney just feeds in to the anti hunting phony crap. That animal doesn't GIVE up ANYTHING! You have to TAKE IT and they will fight you with every defense they have.
THEY ARE NOT HUMANS and neither is your dog. THEY ARE ANIMALS. They are made of MEAT and put there for us to EAT.
That said I think I'm one of the more MILITANT for protecting the resource and respect for an ANIMAL when it comes to half classed pot shots, waste and the same thing (killing game you don't even want just for the thrill of wasting it and giving it away to people who don't earn it)But it's STILL a resource, an animal, NOT a human and they are not on the same level as a human.
You can treat it like one and may be convince your SELF it is but that don't make it so any more than convincing the kids that turkey farm up wind is a rose garden.
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Post by trapperdave on Sept 9, 2016 11:39:45 GMT -5
I thank every deer and other critter for giving its life to sustain mine. And teach my children the taking of life is NOT to be taken lightly.
Guess I grew up on all that hokey.........and am damn proud of it!
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Post by trapperdave on Sept 9, 2016 11:46:56 GMT -5
Make no mistake, DEER HUNTING is big business...... What about grouse, quail, deer, coon, rabbit........ Without those, most won't ever become involved. Deer property hoarders will price it out common man and all youth out of hunting. You'll see  Horn porn will be the ruination of ALL hunting How many guys do you know now that lease up exclusive rights to hundreds or thousands of acres just to kill a deer? How many other hunters and future hunters are displaced by that? Funny how I can put venison in the freezer, and antlers on the wall PLUS squirrels and rabbits in the freezer....all on twenty acres. |
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 9, 2016 12:11:49 GMT -5
I'll admit I see a lot of validity in what Trapper says and others have said. Shoot as I'm typing this I realize I even don't squirrel hunt my best deer woods because I don't want to mess them up....man I used to live off of squirrel and rabbit hunting...seriously was my money source when young as I'd sell them to grandparents and great aunts and uncles that loved the things.
Perhaps I need to go whack some bush tails here soon!
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Post by firstwd on Sept 9, 2016 15:14:03 GMT -5
I'll admit I see a lot of validity in what Trapper says and others have said. Shoot as I'm typing this I realize I even don't squirrel hunt my best deer woods because I don't want to mess them up....man I used to live off of squirrel and rabbit hunting...seriously was my money source when young as I'd sell them to grandparents and great aunts and uncles that loved the things. Perhaps I need to go whack some bush tails here soon! No..... you would give those away and your birthday card money was fantastic. ;-) |
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Post by jjas on Sept 10, 2016 10:02:03 GMT -5
trapperdave
Good point!
And for some it's not just so they can try to kill a trophy buck, it's to try and keep others from killing "their" trophy buck.
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