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Post by jjas on Jul 18, 2016 12:52:20 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 13:51:23 GMT -5
When I run out of slugs, I will switch. I only take one or two shots a year, so I might leave this place before I run out. I take one to make sure sites are still inline and maybe one shot during gun season. I guess I will stay old school a few more years.
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Post by featherduster on Jul 18, 2016 14:25:21 GMT -5
I went with a 44 MAG and I don't miss the slug gun at all. Slugs are about as aerodynamic as a brick.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 18, 2016 14:43:33 GMT -5
I went with a 44 MAG and I don't miss the slug gun at all. Slugs are about as aerodynamic as a brick. Me too.. Love my Ruger .44 Carbine...
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jul 18, 2016 16:36:38 GMT -5
Took up the muzzleloading years ago and gave up the shotty. Way less recoil and a lot better accuracy. Don't miss the punishing recoil at all. I get it out maybe once a year if the weather is horrible.
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Post by jackryan on Jul 18, 2016 21:23:56 GMT -5
I've got plenty of slugs, hundreds at least and I can pour my own slugs and load them if I ever need more.
What's to improve on a half inch whole all the way through a deer from one end to the other?
When they started putting hollow points on slugs that was the dumbest sales gimmick I've ever seen perpetrated on the hunting public and people ate it up like it was cotton candy.
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Post by INhuntin on Jul 19, 2016 19:48:40 GMT -5
I went with a 44 MAG and I don't miss the slug gun at all. Slugs are about as aerodynamic as a brick. I switched to .300 AAC Blackout pistol to hunt public land because it is easy to carry on long walks. If my walk is short I still like the shotgun slug because of knockdown power. As far as aerodynamics the Remington Premier Core-Lokt Ultra Sabot Slugs I shoot fly very well. Good enough to accurately hit targets out at 200yds. Not that I would attempt to take a deer from that far, but if the buck of a lifetime steps out at 150yds knowing that I have accurately shot 200 gives me confidence to attempt it. Two seasons ago I took a buck 105 yd out with one shot, the buck didn't go 10' from where I shot him. It was almost too easy.
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Post by oldhoyt on Jul 20, 2016 12:48:01 GMT -5
I've got plenty of slugs, hundreds at least and I can pour my own slugs and load them if I ever need more. What's to improve on a half inch whole all the way through a deer from one end to the other? When they started putting hollow points on slugs that was the dumbest sales gimmick I've ever seen perpetrated on the hunting public and people ate it up like it was cotton candy. Can't hardly blame the manufacturers. Their first concern is NOT selling you something that is actually any better than what's already out there. They know people will believe what they are told, read on the ammo box or see on TV. They want to market a product that stands out from the others, so they can justify charging more for it. Some sabots are approaching or may even exceed $20 for a box of 5. And folks still buy them.
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Post by jjas on Jul 20, 2016 13:09:19 GMT -5
Oldhoyt
It made zero sense to me stick with slugs that cost $3.00-$4.00 per round when I could shoot a rifle (with similar ballistics and more consistent accuracy) for .80 cents to a $1.50 per round.
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Post by INhuntin on Jul 20, 2016 16:15:37 GMT -5
Oldhoyt It made zero sense to me stick with slugs that cost $3.00-$4.00 per round when I could shoot a rifle (with similar ballistics and more consistent accuracy) for .80 cents to a $1.50 per round. I was paying $25 for a box of 5 for the Remington Premier Core-Lokt Ultra Sabot Slugs but they will accurately reach 200yds. The Hornady SST slugs will almost match the accuracy at 200yds & I can pick a box of 5 for $12.99.
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Post by jjas on Jul 21, 2016 7:29:40 GMT -5
Oldhoyt It made zero sense to me stick with slugs that cost $3.00-$4.00 per round when I could shoot a rifle (with similar ballistics and more consistent accuracy) for .80 cents to a $1.50 per round. I was paying $25 for a box of 5 for the Remington Core-Lokt Ultra Sabot Slugs but they will accurately reach 200yds. The Hornady SST slugs will almost match the accuracy at 200yds & I can pick a box of 5 for $12.99. It sounds like you are getting good accuracy from your combination and that's great, but as I said before, the cost of slugs and the inconsistent accuracy I was getting from my pump gun made the switch an easy one for me. I did think about buying a Savage 220 bolt action slug gun, but in the end couldn't justify the cost of the gun plus still end up paying $3.00-$4.00 per round for slugs. It just didn't make sense for me. As the article pointed out, Illinois and Iowa are the last two "entirely slug only" states, so new slug designs will likely be few and far between. Glad you like your combo, but I'm happy to have made the switch and can't see any reason (other than a reg change) for me to go back. Good luck this season.
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Post by dbd870 on Jul 21, 2016 8:58:19 GMT -5
The only reason I'd ever go back for a day would be for nostalgia.
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Post by jackryan on Jul 21, 2016 15:30:47 GMT -5
Oldhoyt It made zero sense to me stick with slugs that cost $3.00-$4.00 per round when I could shoot a rifle (with similar ballistics and more consistent accuracy) for .80 cents to a $1.50 per round. If I was hunting squirrels with it that would make financial sense.
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Post by throbak on Jul 21, 2016 15:44:04 GMT -5
The cost of slugs is one of the reasons I prefer MZL their also cheap to shoot I'll not change from that
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Post by INhuntin on Jul 21, 2016 16:22:28 GMT -5
I wouldn't go out & purchase a shotgun just for deer hunting these days. There are much less expensive ways of hunting deer. But for right now the way the regs state here in Indiana if you don't have access to private property you will have to hunt public land. That means you will have to use a shotgun, pistol cal. rifle, pistol, muzzleloader, or bow. So not much has changed for the public land hunter. Hopefully the regs will expand to cover HP in some of the larger public hunting areas.
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Post by jjas on Jul 21, 2016 19:10:29 GMT -5
Oldhoyt It made zero sense to me stick with slugs that cost $3.00-$4.00 per round when I could shoot a rifle (with similar ballistics and more consistent accuracy) for .80 cents to a $1.50 per round. If I was hunting squirrels with it that would make financial sense. I sold the shotgun for enough to pay for my rifle and the ammo is much cheaper so I came out just fine.
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Post by bullseye69 on Jul 21, 2016 19:20:32 GMT -5
Oldhoyt It made zero sense to me stick with slugs that cost $3.00-$4.00 per round when I could shoot a rifle (with similar ballistics and more consistent accuracy) for .80 cents to a $1.50 per round. What about some of the prices for five rounds of bismuth shot for ducks and geese?!?! $20 to $30 for five rounds? ?? Who's using those? Rich people I suppose. I'm a ok shot but I don't want to have my misses cost me 5 dollars when I do.
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Post by foamyflyer on Jul 22, 2016 9:53:35 GMT -5
I went with a 44 MAG and I don't miss the slug gun at all. Slugs are about as aerodynamic as a brick. Me too.. Love my Ruger .44 Carbine... Me three... My CVA is lighter, more accurate, with stainless barrel so no worries about inclimate weather or damaging a nice shotgun in the brush. i don't see any reason to go HP either.
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