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Post by 10point on Jan 26, 2016 20:55:10 GMT -5
We inherited an oil tank when we bought our house in 2004. I don't recall the specifics but I believe they told us it was filled with sand but I don't know for sure. We are thinking about moving this year if we find what we like closer to the kids school, work, and Church.
I found the disclosure from when we bought the house and its just marked that there is a tank. Could this be an issue when I go to sell the house? I'm wondering if there is anything I need to do now to prepare.
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Post by bullseye69 on Jan 26, 2016 22:48:54 GMT -5
Do you have any idea how big it is? or where it is located? Maybe just have someone with a back hoe, dig it up and then no worries.
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Post by tenring on Jan 27, 2016 6:45:41 GMT -5
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Post by 36fan on Jan 27, 2016 7:50:10 GMT -5
Since it is a heating oil tank, it is unregulated tank. Bubba with a backhoe can remove it; however, it would be more prudent (and expensive) to have a licensed tank remover pull it and do the proper soil and groundwater sampling. It sounds like it has already closed in place and filled with inert material. Have the fill ports been removed?
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Post by 10point on Jan 27, 2016 7:55:24 GMT -5
Don't know how big it is. It has a couple of pipes or whatever that come out of the ground a few inches. I do not know what the ports are. Maybe that's the part above the ground. I think the part above the ground is how you would fill it.
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Post by steiny on Jan 27, 2016 9:08:26 GMT -5
Used to be pretty common to have buried tanks for furnace fuel oil.
Some folks understand this sort of thing, realize it's not a serious hazard and wouldn't care. However there is an ever increasing segment of society that lives in fear of stuff like this which may cause them to back away from your place, or may even give a lender reason to back away from the loan.
I'd just get Bubba with the backhoe to remove and dispose of it, can't imagine this would be very expensive. Take a few photos and keep a copy of his bill so you can prove it has been removed.
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Post by esshup on Jan 27, 2016 9:38:09 GMT -5
Yes, the pipes coming out of the ground are the fill ports. I'd have Bubba come and remove it too, but now since you've opened the door (the bank knows it's there) you might have to have a tank remover do it and test the ground like 36fam said. If you have any paperwork saying that the tank was filled and is inert, that may satisfy the bank or the home inspector.
I would call a bank as if you were buying the house (instead of selling it) and see what they have to say about it causing a problem getting a mortgage or not.
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Post by bullseye69 on Jan 27, 2016 10:23:25 GMT -5
Either he is very popular/busy guy or there are a lot of Bubbas with back hoes!
Never heard of him myself!
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Post by Russ Koon on Jan 27, 2016 10:23:27 GMT -5
We bought our house in '77, and used oil heat and the buried 200 gallon tank that was there for several years. The old furnace finally was giving us too many problems and the natural gas pipeline was only a couple miles away and was supposed to be extended past our house very soon, so we replaced the oil furnace with a new propane one and central air.
Two propane furnaces and twenty plus years later, the natural gas pipeline is still the same two miles away.
When we switched from oil heat, we ran the tank dry before pulling the old furnace, and dug down to expose the top of the tank. Then I cut a hole a couple feet long and about a foot wide from the top surface, and filled the tank with sand, pushing it out to the sides with a 2x4 as we filled it to make sure we were filling it completely. Figured that made it completely safe from being a cave-in hazard, and there was virtually no residual oil remaining, and what little there was was buried about four feet deep at the bottom of the tank.
Looking back now, we would probably have been wiser to have the tank removed at the time. Circumstances have made people much more aware of the environmental risks, real or imagined, since those days.
You could probably probe with a long metal rod going down through the filler pipe that is sticking up to see whether your tank was drained and filled. I'd say if it was, it doesn't present any real danger from an environmental or safety standpoint. It might still be worth having it removed from a resale value standpoint. I don't know what the legal requirements may be, so that would probably be the first thing to explore. A removal that's mandated by the court after a lawsuit will certainly be the most expensive one imaginable.
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Post by 36fan on Jan 27, 2016 14:37:17 GMT -5
If the fill ports are still present, I have my doubts that it was closed properly. Per IC 13-11-2-241 heating oil tanks are not regulated and there are therefore no requirements as to who can pull it, or any testing requirements.
Is this place on a well? If it is, I would recommend having the soil and/or groundwater tested for VOCs and PAHs. Heating oil can be an environmental issue; however, heating oil is not as volatile and does not dissolve as easily dissolve in water, when compared to gasoline. When there is a leak, heating oil often binds to the soil close to the source…but not always.
Regardless, if you do decide to have it pulled, keep the removal AND disposal records. If there was a leak, extra soil is often also excavated.
Although it is not common, these tanks can be an issue. I had to deal with a site where a heating oil tank leaked, found a preferential pathway through an old, long forgotten drain line (field tile?), and ended up flooding a neighbors basement with red dye heating oil fuel.
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Post by bartiks on Jan 30, 2016 6:43:06 GMT -5
Put a clause in that states as is where is. I purchased a home about 10 years ago and the septic tank on it runs to a little ditch along the property line. This was a big sticking point to some other people who wanted to have the seller fix it. Long story short I got the house with the septic as is for around 20K cheaper than what they were asking for and it turns out that when I plan on moving it this year and have a legal septic along with a lateral field I will still be around 12K ahead.
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Post by duff on Jan 30, 2016 9:11:05 GMT -5
Dig it out and make a pool or gold fish pond!
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Post by 36fan on Jan 30, 2016 23:37:49 GMT -5
Dig it out and make a pool or gold fish pond! And convert the tank into a smoker!
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Post by duff on Jan 31, 2016 7:44:17 GMT -5
Dig it out and make a pool or gold fish pond! And convert the tank into a smoker! Now your thinking!
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