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Post by schall53 on Jan 2, 2016 10:49:10 GMT -5
Greetings It's really quite simple If there are deer in the surrounding area and your piece of paradise is better than the rest of the area you are going to get deer on deer paradise. And for his punishment if it's legal there I would try to pull every doe from him all next season and don't shoot myself. That's because my failing is I have zero tolerance of liars and that is what he did he blatantly lied. Regards Billy My feelings exactly Billy.
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Post by bartiks on Jan 4, 2016 3:48:08 GMT -5
Without going to much into what he said, first and quite simply you can't really do much about it except grin and bear it. Secondly I'm a firm believer that deer herds from area to area ebb and flow all the time and are in a high state of flux. This year I seen nothing but bucks on my camera I set out last year it was does, with that being said and lastly I would probably keep a close eye on my property.
I don't know what kind of individual he/she is, but when someone harvests 5 deer in a short amount of time and then blatantly boasts about it for the world to see. To me, and I've been wrong before, he/she is starting down a slippery slope. What is next year going to be 3 deer with 1 shot? Killed 2 does on the run and then turned around and "accidentally" shot the 2 bucks that were tailing them?
I could be blowing smoke, however I would be kind of cautious about them.
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Post by subzero350 on Jan 4, 2016 15:34:39 GMT -5
If I had a nickel for every time another hunter has said he would or would not do something and then turned around and did the opposite of what they said, I would be rich enough to afford 1,000 acres of prime hunting ground.
This guy probably proposed this idea of not taking does to you in the hopes you and everybody else would go along with it so it would increase his odds of filling his antlerless quota for that county. Sorry to be blunt, but I think you were duped.
But then again, I could be wrong and perhaps he was genuine in his intentions when he initially proposed it and just changed his mind later. I've seen this happen more often than not. I hear all the rack hunters I talk to say they don't shoot does or small bucks but they take one on the last day of the season so they don't put their gear away, empty-handed.
I take everything I am told with a grain of salt and I trust nobody. A man's word is only worth his character and I'm sad to say most peoples' words aren't worth 2 dead flies in this day and age.
That being said, I wouldn't declare war on the neighbors over this. If you still want to be able to retrieve deer that you shoot on your land that falls on your neighbor's, you're going to have to suck it up and play nice. Destroying your opportunity to retrieve that deer you shot that fell on your neighbor's property over someone going back on their word isn't worth it to me. If they want to talk and propose "ideas", I would just let them talk and nod my head like I acknowledged what they were saying. And then I would just go on to do what I want, my way, and make sure I get the best out of the situation I can for myself.
It sucks you have to be this way but that's life. Some people thrive off of the anger they can cause in others. Sometimes the only way to win is to just not play the game.
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Post by welder on Jan 4, 2016 18:14:55 GMT -5
If I had a nickel for every time another hunter has said he would or would not do something and then turned around and did the opposite of what they said, I would be rich enough to afford 1,000 acres of prime hunting ground. This guy probably proposed this idea of not taking does to you in the hopes you and everybody else would go along with it so it would increase his odds of filling his antlerless quota for that county. Sorry to be blunt, but I think you were duped. But then again, I could be wrong and perhaps he was genuine in his intentions when he initially proposed it and just changed his mind later. I've seen this happen more often than not. I hear all the rack hunters I talk to say they don't shoot does or small bucks but they take one on the last day of the season so they don't put their gear away, empty-handed. I take everything I am told with a grain of salt and I trust nobody. A man's word is only worth his character and I'm sad to say most peoples' words aren't worth 2 dead flies in this day and age. That being said, I wouldn't declare war on the neighbors over this. If you still want to be able to retrieve deer that you shoot on your land that falls on your neighbor's, you're going to have to suck it up and play nice. Destroying your opportunity to retrieve that deer you shot that fell on your neighbor's property over someone going back on their word isn't worth it to me. If they want to talk and propose "ideas", I would just let them talk and nod my head like I acknowledged what they were saying. And then I would just go on to do what I want, my way, and make sure I get the best out of the situation I can for myself. It sucks you have to be this way but that's life. Some people thrive off of the anger they can cause in others. Sometimes the only way to win is to just not play the game. x1,000,000
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jan 4, 2016 18:25:10 GMT -5
I've probably done a lot of things that I said I wouldn't do or never do. I was young and that says it all.
However, when I make an agreement with someone; there would have to be a monumental event to break it. Even with what time I'll be somewhere. If I'm more than 5 minutes late, call 911, because I'm laying on the road somewhere.
Lawrencecounty is punctual and dependable. I set my satellite watch by him.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jan 4, 2016 18:36:46 GMT -5
I think my hunting land neighbors do a good job not taking too many does. The two girls I'd been seeing made it through this season. I know I have 5 now. I really like my does.
I must say that the neighbors sure do shoot a LOT. Reload or not, it's expensive to shoot like they do. I have no idea if they impacted the deer movement by doing it, but it doesn't matter, I can't afford to not have neighbors.
I'd like to have throbak as a neighbor. I think he'd probably buy me a drone as a house warming present.
Genesis, you know you have every right to be upset. A deal is a deal.
I can't be upset with my neighbors for shooting when I'm hunting. I wouldn't think about asking them to not shoot or not ride their ATV. I want them to enjoy their land. I'll make the best of the situation I'm in and adapt; this is hunting. However, a deal is a deal.
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Post by esshup on Jan 5, 2016 10:18:57 GMT -5
Jon, if the neighbors shoot a lot, it won't affect the deer movement. I have a neighbor across the street and down one house that shoots frequently. My neighbor directly across the street arrowed a 10 point at 20 yds not 10 minutes after the other neighbor started shooting. The deer wasn't bothered by it.
I shoot behind the house and have target butts set up at 100, 200 and 300 yds. I've been shooting at the 100 yd target and had does walk into the shooting lane at 200 yds.
I've also been at the range shooting at the 1,000 yd target and had a doe and twins walk out and start eating at 50 yds. They didn't care if I was shooting at all, and after they wouldn't leave I continued to shoot. They didn't care that I was there, or that I was shooting, they were used to it. I wasn't shooting a .22 LR either, each trigger squeeze lit 110 grains of WC-872 powder.....
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jan 5, 2016 11:36:55 GMT -5
Jon, if the neighbors shoot a lot, it won't affect the deer movement. I have a neighbor across the street and down one house that shoots frequently. My neighbor directly across the street arrowed a 10 point at 20 yds not 10 minutes after the other neighbor started shooting. The deer wasn't bothered by it. I shoot behind the house and have target butts set up at 100, 200 and 300 yds. I've been shooting at the 100 yd target and had does walk into the shooting lane at 200 yds. I've also been at the range shooting at the 1,000 yd target and had a doe and twins walk out and start eating at 50 yds. They didn't care if I was shooting at all, and after they wouldn't leave I continued to shoot. They didn't care that I was there, or that I was shooting, they were used to it. I wasn't shooting a .22 LR either, each trigger squeeze lit 110 grains of WC-872 powder..... This is what I kept telling myself, but I really didn't know.
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