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Post by onebentarrow on Dec 20, 2015 19:55:19 GMT -5
I have taken all the deer off of the place I hunt I think should be taken.
I would like to take a couple more for a couple familys that need the meat.
The problem is I have no place to hunt the late doe season.
If you know a farmer or have too meny doe on your hunting ground I would be apriciative of the opertunity to help you out.
I live north of Ft. Wayne so would like to stay in this end of the state.
If you have intrest please pm me so we can talk or get together to discuss what you need and where.
Thanks for your time
Onebentarrow
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 20, 2015 20:13:26 GMT -5
Wish I could help ya out
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Dec 20, 2015 23:45:34 GMT -5
Still searching for some doe ground myself. Never dreamt it would be this tough or that the doe population in my area would look so miserable
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Post by omegahunter on Dec 21, 2015 9:50:59 GMT -5
Yep, I have a local single mom wanting a deer for her and her kids. One of her daughters has severe allergies and can only eat organic. Also the guy that I used to hunt on was wanting a deer this year. Doubt I get both requests filled, but I am going to try.
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Post by steiny on Dec 21, 2015 11:39:02 GMT -5
This may be an unpopular response
These does are not an unlimited resource and many areas of the state are seeing severely reduced numbers. Just read some of the threads on here, and you'll see that. Since our state doesn't see fit to reduce the doe tags, then maybe we hunters need to lay off them voluntarily. None of us honestly need to rely on game for subsistence, and we shouldn't treat the deer herd as a food pantry we can take, take and take from.
The Indiana deer herd was pretty much wiped out at one point due to market and subsistence hunting way back in the day, and they did it with pretty primitive weaponry. It's not a long shot to think we could do it again given the states liberal tags and season lengths. Not to mention, we don't have a fraction of the habitat anymore.
Probably won't change anyone's opinion, but if you truly have a family in need that you care for, perhaps a better gift would be some money they could use towards any of their expenses, or give them a hand with something that needs to be done.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 21, 2015 11:43:15 GMT -5
OK... Where do you get - "Since our state doesn't see fit to reduce the doe tags..." ?
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Post by steiny on Dec 21, 2015 11:57:12 GMT -5
OK, you got me there Woody, some counties have reduced doe tags. I can't deny that.
But on the same note, you can still shoot two deer with archery, one with firearms and another with muzzle loader, before you even need to worry about doe tags.
I guess a more correct statement would be .... "since our state is already plenty generous with tags".
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Dec 21, 2015 12:00:14 GMT -5
Man, my does are precious to me. I've got 4 now that I know of and would have taken one or two, but looks like they'll be having fawns now. This is exciting to me.
I really need some meat for my families. I was shocked at how many people wanted/needed the food. I may try to buy some beef for them.
Anyone know where I could buy some summer sausage? I'd like to get some for the couple in Brownsville.
Good luck to you Pepe; I hope you get a place to hunt.
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Post by onebentarrow on Dec 21, 2015 12:16:49 GMT -5
This may be an unpopular response These does are not an unlimited resource and many areas of the state are seeing severely reduced numbers. Just read some of the threads on here, and you'll see that. Since our state doesn't see fit to reduce the doe tags, then maybe we hunters need to lay off them voluntarily. None of us honestly need to rely on game for subsistence, and we shouldn't treat the deer herd as a food pantry we can take, take and take from. The Indiana deer herd was pretty much wiped out at one point due to market and subsistence hunting way back in the day, and they did it with pretty primitive weaponry. It's not a long shot to think we could do it again given the states liberal tags and season lengths. Not to mention, we don't have a fraction of the habitat anymore. Probably won't change anyone's opinion, but if you truly have a family in need that you care for, perhaps a better gift would be some money they could use towards any of their expenses, or give them a hand with something that needs to be done. |
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Post by 10point on Dec 21, 2015 12:55:58 GMT -5
I have a place to hunt but no does. Haven't seen a deer on any of my hunting areas since the Thursday before gun season.
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Post by raymar on Dec 21, 2015 13:13:14 GMT -5
In response to getting deer for families I don't know if anyone has contacted the local sheriff's office. My wife is calling someone almost daily in regards to deer pick up as she works in dispatch. While I know some don't like a hit deer. Personally you can tell pretty quick often whether it is salvageable and often it is with cold temps. It is much better than it going to waste. They have a list and I am sure this time of year you may be able to move up that list with explaining your intentions. Just a thought
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Post by onebentarrow on Dec 21, 2015 13:22:20 GMT -5
This may be an unpopular response These does are not an unlimited resource and many areas of the state are seeing severely reduced numbers. Just read some of the threads on here, and you'll see that. Since our state doesn't see fit to reduce the doe tags, then maybe we hunters need to lay off them voluntarily. None of us honestly need to rely on game for subsistence, and we shouldn't treat the deer herd as a food pantry we can take, take and take from. The Indiana deer herd was pretty much wiped out at one point due to market and subsistence hunting way back in the day, and they did it with pretty primitive weaponry. It's not a long shot to think we could do it again given the states liberal tags and season lengths. Not to mention, we don't have a fraction of the habitat anymore. Probably won't change anyone's opinion, but if you truly have a family in need that you care for, perhaps a better gift would be some money they could use towards any of their expenses, or give them a hand with something that needs to be done. I doo realise that some areas of the state and county's with bonus doe have shortages of deer. I did not ask to hunt those places. What I ask was for a farmer with crop damage or some one that has excessive does that need to be removed. If you notice I felt that the place I hunt has had all the deer taken it needs. Yes I could still hunt it,I have 2 archery and a bonus county I could use but I do not want to lower the deer numbers any more. What I want is to help some one that feels they have a doe excess in THAT aera and give the meat to a needy family. I do not really have the extra money to just give them and the deer meat.cost me.nothing except gas and bullet. I butcher the deer so they have no expense in the meat. It Is also recreation to me. When it comes to money I can give them more bang for there buck with free meat than I can buy. How much do you think it would cost to buy 75/80lbs of stake,roast,rolled rump roast,round stake and hamburger from the store? I would think $150/200 at least. I do not have that kind of cash to give away. I have to give the best way possible with out hurting my family and free deer meat is it. I have not hunted the property in the 4 doe county sence the second week end of gun because of the afore mentioned reason and the other 5 acres I have to hunt did not produce a deer in muzzeloader and is NOT in a 4 doe county. Here again it seems some one is trying to tell me I need to hunt by there standards. Not all areas are the same some are still overpopulated and some are under populated for the habitat. And that is what is most important. Not that we see x numbers of deer but what will the habitat stand with out starvation , illness in the heard or habitat digregation. It just agravates me when some one thinks that the strategy used to hunt property A is the best strategy to hunt property B,C and D when they have never set foot on those property's or have no knolledge of what is going on on or around them. Sorry guys! Rant over Onebentarrow |
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Post by throbak on Dec 21, 2015 13:50:30 GMT -5
pork loins 1.59 per lb at VV you could buy some prime pork for the cost of licence time fuel just saying if you really want to help and cant find a road kill
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Post by steiny on Dec 21, 2015 14:27:05 GMT -5
I think your intentions are great onebentarrow, but there are plenty of ways to be charitable without going out and shooting more deer. I disagree with using the states deer resources as a food pantry.
Further, with the exception of possibly a few urban areas and state parks there really aren't any areas in the state where there are "too many does". "Too many" or "over populated" would indicate that they are eating themselves out of habitat and starving. I don't think that is the case in many places in Indiana where you can hunt legally. We don't very often have starvation winter kills in Indiana.
Raymars idea about picking up hit deer is a great idea.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 21, 2015 14:34:18 GMT -5
Trying calling some lockers.... Sometimes folks will drop off there deer and not pick it up and the locker will then sell to you at cost..
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 21, 2015 14:42:57 GMT -5
^^^^^ yep and I know our local locker WILL NOT PROCESS road killed deer. Said in most cases there are broken bone's and much of meat can't be used. Said it's to time consuming so they just don't take them anymore. FYI so you should check before taking in.
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Post by jimstc on Dec 21, 2015 15:50:25 GMT -5
Couple of years back I signed up for the DNR program, Hunters Helping Farmers, no takers. It doesn't seem to be a feasible strategy. If farmers don't hunt, then they have friends that do. If they have a really bad problem they can get the special permit to deal with the crop destruction by deer.
Nonetheless, onebentarrow's goal is admirable. He qualifies his intent by indicating that his local harvest is enough. Seems to be conservation oriented or he would keep hunting his ground. Doesn't seem to me that he needs a lecture about the health of the IN doe herd especially the suggestion that he give money without an understanding of his financial situation.
Pretty presumptuous comment. Just sayin. As he says, he has time and effort to give. Not money. I get that real clearly......And respect it.
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Post by onebentarrow on Dec 21, 2015 15:52:54 GMT -5
I have picked up 2 road kills this year all ready that have been given away. As far as over population, just accross the roast from me is a block of about 3 mile that receives almost no hunting. In a given night you can drive around it and see 100 + deer. 2 years ago when the snow was bad the deer were comming in to the addition and eating ANY thing that was green. Pine trees, bushes, you name it. One night I saw 18 out my front window and some of them looked very sickley. (You could count the ribs) and this was in feb.
This is the kind of situation I am looking for.
I am not the kind of guy to just go sit and look. I need a reason to be there and taking a deer home is the reason. I will not condem or condone some one for not shooting a deer. That is there choice and should be there choice alone. I have hunted properties that had antler restrictions. I had no problem passing young deer as that was the requirement to hunt the properity.
Please remember, this is recreation for me. I love being there. I love (the hunt).
I do not waste anything. I take the toung and heart. No liver as I can not stand any liver. I sell the hide to a.furrier. I have found an outlet here for the legs and feet. He does something with the bones. I boil all the bones and pick the meat and keep the stock for noodles. I never thought of it but I saw a show where they kept the testicles and cooked them like mountain oysters. I may even try that if I happen to get a buck.
I have a passion, it is deer hunting, not looking, HUNTING. It is not a hobby,it is a passion. No place I would rather be then in the woods hunting deer, PERIOD.
I do not have the time to invest in it I would like but I can talk deer hunting all day long and not one day goes by I do not think about some aspect of deer hunting.
Please do not tell me your idea of giving is better than mine because in my situation we will never agree. My passion afords me the opertunity to give and you are trying to take that away and or make me feel guilty about the way I give and in my opinion that is wrong!
Onebentarrow
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Post by beermaker on Dec 21, 2015 17:05:38 GMT -5
Couple of years back I signed up for the DNR program, Hunters Helping Farmers, no takers. It doesn't seem to be a feasible strategy. If farmers don't hunt, then they have friends that do. If they have a really bad problem they can get the special permit to deal with the crop destruction by deer. Nonetheless, onebentarrow's goal is admirable. He qualifies his intent by indicating that his local harvest is enough. Seems to be conservation oriented or he would keep hunting his ground. Doesn't seem to me that he needs a lecture about the health of the IN doe herd especially the suggestion that he give money without an understanding of his financial situation. Pretty presumptuous comment. Just sayin. As he says, he has time and effort to give. Not money. I get that real clearly......And respect it. Yep, that program is a joke. I have not heard of one single hunter that has been contacted. Anyone? |
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 21, 2015 18:32:30 GMT -5
I, myself, don't think that the herd numbers are as low as some believe. I think that it is more of the deer moving on to greener pastures. A good example was a post I read right here on this board where someone said they hadn't seen a deer in almost a month, then saw four on their neighbor's property at sundown Sunday. The deer were still around, just hanging out where they were safe. Another example is jimstc on here with the lease in Lawrence County. He hasn't seen a deer there the last three hunts (3 weeks?), yet I know they are in the area because one deer-laden property I hunt is 600 yards from his lease's back fence. Another member here (chriskline) lives about a block from Jim's lease, and he probably sees deer cross onto the neighboring property quite often.
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