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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 30, 2015 10:10:48 GMT -5
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Post by boonechaser on Sept 30, 2015 10:48:19 GMT -5
QDM can be what you want it to be. Most now adays see someone practicing QDM and they think "trophy hunter" which may or may not be the case. Like anything there are different ways of doing thing's. I apply QDM practice's to my farm and I choose not to harvest 1.5 or 2.5 year old buck's. Any 3.5 year old is fair game. Although I may pass a few of them as well depending what genetics they may carry. There is no right or wrong way if you are happy with what you are doing and happy with the result's.
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 30, 2015 12:17:16 GMT -5
Boone I agree unless you are the of the crowd I'm happy to shoot anything that walks, as many times as I legally want and can.  Otherwise I agree, as long as not illegal or overharvesting I'm A-OKAY with whatever someone chooses to do. |
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Post by boonechaser on Sept 30, 2015 12:32:30 GMT -5
If someone is practicing "if it's brown then it's down" they aren't practicing QDM. All I am saying is there are lot's of different ways to manage a property for wildlife and deer. My idea's and practice's may differ from other's. But I hold my goal's and objective's to anyone I invite to hunt my property. For EX. I took my nephew deer hunting several time's last year, but he understood he would not be shooting a immature buck. Same rules I follow applied to him also. 3.5 yr. old or older. He did not harvest a buck but had a great time hunting as he got to see several small 6 and 8 pt.'s come within shooting range. I put a lot of time and money into habitat improvement and maintaining food source's year round for wildlife on my property so I get to make the rules what is harvested and what is not.
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Post by onebentarrow on Sept 30, 2015 13:00:05 GMT -5
If someone is practicing "if it's brown then it's down" they aren't practicing QDM. All I am saying is there are lot's of different ways to manage a property for wildlife and deer. My idea's and practice's may differ from other's. But I hold my goal's and objective's to anyone I invite to hunt my property. For EX. I took my nephew deer hunting several time's last year, but he understood he would not be shooting a immature buck. Same rules I follow applied to him also. 3.5 yr. old or older. He did not harvest a buck but had a great time hunting as he got to see several small 6 and 8 pt.'s come within shooting range. I put a lot of time and money into habitat improvement and maintaining food source's year round for wildlife on my property so I get to make the rules what is harvested and what is not. this is not aimed at you. I do not mind you holding any one you invite to your property to your rules as any one I envied to my property were held to my rules it is when our rules differ and some one trys to tell me I have to adhere to their rules on my property that I have a peoblem.as stated.this is NOT amed at you. It is a statement and opinion I thought fit here well |
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Sept 30, 2015 15:01:17 GMT -5
Not sure how old your nephew is but if my nieces or nephews 10 to 17 yrs want to shoot any deer I let them. I don't want them to not shoot a deer because it's not up to my standards. No kid wants to hunt and be told they can't shoot a peticular deer because of restrictions. They won't go back again. Just my two cents.
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Post by tjshunter13 on Sept 30, 2015 15:59:20 GMT -5
Not sure how old your nephew is but if my nieces or nephews 10 to 17 yrs want to shoot any deer I let them. I don't want them to not shoot a deer because it's not up to my standards. No kid wants to hunt and be told they can't shoot a peticular deer because of restrictions. They won't go back again. Just my two cents. I agree with you to a point. i think there should be a certain age cutoff for kids where you tell them they are old enough to start hunting bigger bucks. If you do this at too young of an age, they could lose interest or it could lessen the amount of fun they get from hunting. I don't think this is an across the board age that we should set for every child, either. Certain kids might be ready for this restriction at a much younger age than other kids. I will never forget one guy who hunted a property with my family and I. He always was a bit of a jerk just because we hunted the same ground he did and we had permission to be there just the same as he did, too. That made him very angry and he never hesitated to show it whenever we saw him at the farm. Anyways, my younger cousin took a pretty decent 8 point. It wasn't a monster by any means, but it probably scored about 115-120. This was only my cousins second or third deer ever and his first ever buck. He dropped this buck with one shot and he was very excited and very pleased with his harvest. As we loaded the deer into the trailer, this other guy was just coming back to his truck and he came to look at the deer. When he did, the gentleman said to my cousin "I can't believe you shot that little guy. I would've let him grow another year at least, maybe even two." He then proceeded to mutter some choice words under his breath on his way to his own truck about bucks not ever given a chance to grow. Needless to say, I was pretty upset. My cousin, who was only probably 14 or 15 at the time, was too upset to say anything at all the whole way back to camp. Here's a 50 some year old man behaving like that to a kid who had been on cloud nine. It disgusted me. I swore right then, from that moment on, I would never, ever try to tell my son or daughter what they could/could not harvest as a trophy animal. I also believe that the same is true for people who are new to the sport. If you are being introduced to the sport by a friend or a buddy and you are constantly being told that you can't harvest this deer or that deer because of size restrictions, how are you really ever going to get hooked on this great sport? We all would like to say our first buck was a great big deer that we to this day would not hesitate to harvest, but that is most often not the case. If a person who is new to the sport wants to harvest the first deer that walks by and they consider that a trophy, then who are we to tell them otherwise? The same goes for people who are meat hunters. This sport is already too expensive as it is, why should we tell someone who is trying to simply put meat on the table that the deer they harvested is not a trophy? Anyways. These are just my thoughts, though. To each their own. Sorry for the long post. |
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Post by boonechaser on Sept 30, 2015 16:01:24 GMT -5
My nephew can hunt several properties. He has taken a few deer as well. He asks me to take him hunting as he sees all the deer hanging on my walls and want's to learn how to shoot a bigger buck. (He is 11) My thoughts are he is learning hunting skills and very important lessons IMO. 1) You only get 1 buck a season so you better be happy with him. 2) Once you shoot a young buck he isn't going to get any bigger. 3) Probably the most important. Hunting is just that hunting, not killing. You learn from observing deer not shooting the first thing that walks by. I can assure you that the fire burn's deeper now from seeing and passing bigger deer than he has already shot. I live in a high deer density area where you are going to see deer on pretty much every set. He's already text me wanting me to take him opening day of gun season. (And I will).
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Post by boonechaser on Sept 30, 2015 16:16:28 GMT -5
onebentarrow no offense taken that is the great thing about owning your properties. We get to manage the property as we see fit. I'm lucky in that I have a couple neighbors that have pretty common goals in regards to deer management. All together we control a little over 600 acre's.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Sept 30, 2015 17:56:02 GMT -5
My nephew can hunt several properties. He has taken a few deer as well. He asks me to take him hunting as he sees all the deer hanging on my walls and want's to learn how to shoot a bigger buck. (He is 11) My thoughts are he is learning hunting skills and very important lessons IMO. 1) You only get 1 buck a season so you better be happy with him. 2) Once you shoot a young buck he isn't going to get any bigger. 3) Probably the most important. Hunting is just that hunting, not killing. You learn from observing deer not shooting the first thing that walks by. I can assure you that the fire burn's deeper now from seeing and passing bigger deer than he has already shot. I live in a high deer density area where you are going to see deer on pretty much every set. He's already text me wanting me to take him opening day of gun season. (And I will). I can see your are all about the Bucks. They have shot 2 does between all of them in since they all started hunting. No bucks. Between soccer cheerleadeing basketball xcrosscounty baseball and other activities there is little time to hunt. they may only get out a couple times of year. No youth hunts for us again this year due to tourneys. So whatever they are happy shooting they may shoot. It doesn't have to be a buck to make it a successful season. You may have the time to observe and pick and choose what you what, but other do not have that luxury. I don't want any of them to loose the fire to hunt, but school activities and life have a way of getting in the way. |
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Post by boonechaser on Sept 30, 2015 21:45:16 GMT -5
The topic was QDM Q and A correct?? After all my original post was QDM is what you want it to be.
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Otherwise I agree, as long as not illegal or overharvesting I'm A-OKAY with whatever someone chooses to do.
