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Post by huntnandplumbn on Sept 8, 2015 14:56:59 GMT -5
My lifelong friend kind of fell into a great lease for us a couple years ago. Unfortunately it wasn't at a good time for him financially, So I've footed the bill the last two seasons (I.E. $2,000 per year) also including all of the stands (16), food plot stuff, game cameras (12), etc.... Now he is working great but again didn't help. He was well aware that he needed to take care of at least his half and knew that I expected more. Fair is fair you would think. Again I took care of securing the lease (actually I secured it for the next three years). Where do you draw the line and stop him from hunting the property? FYI: Were both on the lease but he would understand and abide by my decision.
Again, What would you do?
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 8, 2015 15:09:53 GMT -5
I would have drawn the line 2 years ago, with the stipulation that if he comes up with his half in the future I'd let him back in.
I've never leased though, so I'm not sure about legalities of it since his name is on there..
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 8, 2015 15:29:39 GMT -5
Drawing the line now moving forward is what needs to happen. Past is over and with nothing in stone about it nothing one can do really.
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Post by firstwd on Sept 8, 2015 17:37:26 GMT -5
Legally speaking, with his name on the lease and the lease paid, he can hunt. To get your money back you'll have to go through a court or hope he does the right thing.
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Post by beermaker on Sept 8, 2015 17:57:43 GMT -5
If he truly is a "life long friend," he should understand that the freeloading is over.
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Post by huntnandplumbn on Sept 8, 2015 18:40:41 GMT -5
I appreciate all the thoughts guys. again this is a lifelong friend I'm not interested in getting money back or anything like that. Just getting frustrated with it as I know he's not having the financial troubles that he was. If he was I wouldn't even think twice about paying it and not saying a word.
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Post by nfalls116 on Sept 8, 2015 19:01:10 GMT -5
I'd mention it to him in passing first then it will not seem so offensive?
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 8, 2015 19:26:53 GMT -5
Honest face to face. Just tell him that you were very glad to help him out in the past (as I'm sure you were) but that you all need to go forward from now on with a 50-50 split..
If he is a reasonable person he will pony up his fair share and thank you profusely for carrying him in his tough times..
Depending on what he says dictates your next move. Personally I would not continue to pay the way of a friend that has the money to pay his own way AND I don't know of any of my firiends that would want me to..
Good luck ...
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Post by hornzilla on Sept 8, 2015 19:33:04 GMT -5
Honest face to face. Just tell him that you were very glad to help him out in the past (as I'm sure you were) but that you all need to go forward from now on with a 50-50 split.. If he is a reasonable person he will pony up his fair share and thank you profusely for carrying him in his tough times.. Depending on what he says dictates your next move. Personally I would not continue to pay the way of a friend that has the money to pay his own way AND I don't know of any of my firiends that would want me to.. Good luck ... .
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Post by mattbrewer on Sept 8, 2015 19:47:42 GMT -5
In my experience honesty is definitely the way to go. The only real way to keep this from going south is to bring it up and talk to him. The last thing you want is for the friendship to be affected or even tarnished over a deer lease. If you don't bring it up it's going to fester and get worse. Shoot straight up front and hope for the best.
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Post by swilk on Sept 8, 2015 19:51:52 GMT -5
It'll likely be uncomfortable to bring up but he can't be surprised when you do. No reasonable person could expect another man to pay his way when he has the means to pay himself. If he reacts badly that says a lot about how much he values the friendship.
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Post by duff on Sept 8, 2015 20:11:04 GMT -5
What's it worth to you? You need to be willing to walk away from the spot and or lose a friend over this. I would struggle with the choice. Depends on the friend. Some buddies are worth it, no question. Others don't deserve a free taco bell lunch from me.
Not likely to result in a fun outcome. Hope you and him can figure our terms without much drama.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Sept 8, 2015 20:19:19 GMT -5
10,000 to let a buddy hunt for free. Ummm no.
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Post by huntnandplumbn on Sept 8, 2015 20:36:44 GMT -5
Well I guess it will be time to have a talk with my buddy this weekend. Out of respect for me and he needs to man up and take care of his share. He'll respect my decision to let him hunt or not even though he's on the lease makes no difference. it's up to him to choose. regardless it's paid for for the next three years so I will enjoy it and manage it as I have already.
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Post by greghopper on Sept 8, 2015 20:58:53 GMT -5
I love to hear the OTHER side of this story....just saying!!
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Sept 8, 2015 21:53:25 GMT -5
Have I mentioned that I make a great friend? LOL
I have never loaned a friend money. If they need it, I give it and never expect a return. Mixing money and friends can often yield one less friend.
...come to think of it, I don't think I've ever had any friends. LOL
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Post by parrothead on Sept 9, 2015 5:10:31 GMT -5
The old saying is true. "Don't loan money to friends or family" I would say the money is gone. I would think it would be fair for him to pay his share of lease of course and all cost of food plots for next several years and other cost. Face to Face talk.
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Post by huntnandplumbn on Sept 9, 2015 6:41:06 GMT -5
Well, that talk happened sooner than later. He came by in the afternoon and apparently had gone to the farmer and paid for the next three years. Not realizing that I had done so myself but sure as you know what he had my check in his pocket to hand back. Told me he was two years behind and the third was to help cover all of the costs that I'd incurred for the other stuff. Additionally the farmer included a second piece of ground when they met up. He was just very happy with the way that were doing what/how we've been doing and wanted this additional ground to be cared for the same way. Little close to the season but we'll handle it.
World works in mysterious ways.....
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Post by jjas on Sept 9, 2015 6:54:49 GMT -5
Glad to see it worked out as good friends are hard to find.
Good luck this season to you both.
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Post by parrothead on Sept 9, 2015 6:56:38 GMT -5
That tells me what kind of a man that he is and I don't even know him.
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