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Post by realhunter on Dec 3, 2014 12:19:41 GMT -5
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 3, 2014 12:30:19 GMT -5
Plenty of truth there.
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Post by ric0 on Dec 3, 2014 12:52:09 GMT -5
On the farm I hunt in KY the motto there is if it's brown it's down. We hunt for meat and if a nice wall hanger buck comes by, well that's just fantastic. With that said those that spend $200000 a year to get a trophy buck need to keep in mind deer hunting is more in place for deer population not to keep the taxidermist in business.
As for poachers, trespassers and the other losers, their day will come.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 3, 2014 14:30:13 GMT -5
We participate in a selfish hobby plain and simple. I have no problem with anyone shooting whatever they want on their own property nor do I care what weapon they choose to use. Just as I don't have a problem with farmer's/property owner's leasing their properties hunting right's. Simple supply and demand issue and in these tuff time's it only makes sense to maximize your properties value. If you follow a large majority of post on this site and other hunting site's it quickly become's apparent it is about I or me and not we and us.
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Post by ncmountainman on Dec 3, 2014 15:14:02 GMT -5
We participate in a selfish hobby plain and simple. I have no problem with anyone shooting whatever they want on their own property not do I care what weapon they choose to use. Just as I don't have a problem with farmer's/property owner's leasing their properties hunting right's. Simple supply and demand issue and in these tuff time's it only makes sense to maximize your properties value. If you follow a large majority of post on this site and other hunting site's it quickly become's apparent it is about I or me and not we and us. X2 |
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Post by piercings4u on Dec 3, 2014 16:02:26 GMT -5
I don't like the fact that hunting has been blown out of proportion ..who cares what bow or gun you use..my $400 parker outfitter does the job just as well if not better than your $1200 bowtech or Matthews ..my clothes keep me warm just as well as your underarmor cold gear and the list goes on...i say get rid of the tv shows and the hype will fade away..lets go back to the way it use to be..its nice to get young ones out into the field to enjoy our sport but come on....is this really enjoyment? Take away all the so called cool stuff from hunting and lets see how many stick with it..im not trying to cause a debate..im just stating my opinion ...all the hype really makes me mad..
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 3, 2014 16:20:44 GMT -5
...i say get rid of the tv shows and the hype will fade away... Agreed. I believe that hunting shows are the cause of a lot of ills. In fact, I haven't watched one since I cancelled my Outdoor Channel subscription a couple of years ago due to the trash on it. And even then, there were only two that I could stomach -- Ted Nugent (Spirit Of The Wild) and Tim Wells (Relentless Pursuit). |
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Post by chubwub on Dec 3, 2014 18:35:11 GMT -5
I'm probably going to get smacked for this but when I see guys paying up to $10,000 for a lease to hunt whitetail deer around our area, all I can think is "Why would you pay a down payment on a house or car or your own private land to kill something that you have a chance to pick up for free alongside the highway?"  |
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Post by sakorifle on Dec 3, 2014 19:37:56 GMT -5
greetings
It is the same all over the world everyone will protect and be sensitive of there hunting patch, even here at work,
And why they pay vast sums of money for hunting chubwub simply because they have it spare, same over here, although perhaps not quite the figures you mention.
All down to availability and demand.
regards
Billy
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Post by swilk on Dec 3, 2014 20:20:26 GMT -5
$10k may or may not be a lot of money depending on how much money a person has to start with.
We the hunters drive the leases. We the hunters drive the gadgets and gear. We the hunters drive the TV shows.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 4, 2014 11:38:55 GMT -5
Leasing a small area or joining in a lease with several partners can be an economically feasible way to enjoy better hunting.
If the decent public hunting is forty miles away, and involves a lengthy hike after arriving at your parking spot, that small plot lease price or membership price needs to be reduced by the gas and the time lost in accessing the "free" hunting available in the remote location. Then a fair comparison can be made with the quality of the hunting accessed and the remaining actual cost difference.
I have also advocated for years that many more of us should have been looking at ownership of our own hunting parcels. You have to get past viewing the purchase price as an expense and see it instead as an investment option with a hunting bonus, and then it begins to make considerably more sense. Land as an investment option has been among the better and safer ones pretty much all my life, and I certainly wish I'd taken more advantage of the chances I had at exercising that option.
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Post by jjas on Dec 4, 2014 12:12:43 GMT -5
Swik
You are exactly right. We complain about this stuff but someone's buying or watching or leasing.
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Post by subzero350 on Dec 4, 2014 15:14:47 GMT -5
The hunting sport is not devoid of bullies. On both the properties I hunt, neighbors mounted concerted efforts (not quite illegal) to bully us out. My dad (who owns one of these properties) almost succumbed to this pressure. I did not allow it to happen.
As a result of my persistence, the bullies have given up and some have even become friendly with us now.
It's just a game people play. And sometimes the only way you can win is not to play. We didn't fight fire with fire in these cases, we just ignored them and went right on hunting our properties as we would have anyway. I think as soon as they realized their actions weren't going to stop us from hunting, they quit wasting their own time trying to run us off.
That having been said, if someone decides to cross the legal line and interferes with your legal pursuit of game, get video evidence and call the DNR. They probably can't do much if they don't see it happen, but a video is worth a million words and can go a long way to bolstering your case. I've always got some kind of video recording device with me in the stand...
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Post by beermaker on Dec 4, 2014 17:29:09 GMT -5
I leased 80 acres for around $2k last year and it was 30 minutes from the house. It was sold, or I would have done the same again for this year. I don't think that one could touch 80 acres for less than $200K, and that is probably a low estimate. At that rate, I can hunt for a lot longer than me or my kids will live and still be money ahead.
While the thought of paying to hunt initially was painful, I found myself hunting, hiking, scouting, etc. much more that ever before. My next-best place to hunt is a 85 minute drive, and that is what I did this year. I have hunted six times. I did that in the first three weeks of bow season last year. I will be looking to for a lease again next year.
My wife and I work hard, make respectable incomes, are responsible, and take care of the necessities first. Hunting is my only hobby and I don't mind spending good money for good opportunity and I enjoy using quality equipment to do so.
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Post by joekelly on Dec 4, 2014 21:04:24 GMT -5
I lease 160 acres for $1200, the reason I do it, is because last year I got my wife involved in hunting and we hunted public ground. I was worried about her and all the shots that were very close to us, yeah she did kill a 140 inch deer as her first deer but after I got to thinking about it, it was not worth it. I have no problem hunting public ground as long as it is just me but when my wife is in the woods her safety is more important. On our lease its just us, I also have a 2 yr old son who I will be getting involved in the outdoors soon and him hunting on public ground bothers me. An my lease is 15 mins from our house. Don't get me wrong I would love to own my own ground but its just not feasible right now, and we both my good money and are responsible with our funds.
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Post by practicalsportsman on Dec 14, 2014 21:11:25 GMT -5
I can say a lot of what I call the weekend warriors cause problems around here, for instance the guys that lease across the road from my place think that just because they are cops, judges, and lawyers from Georgia that they can hunt the way they do back home and that they can go anywhere they want. the others are those that fail to listen to the fact that a particular woods on a property is hunted by a local hunter, I have one of these properties, But every year I have the same guy asking if I have permission knowing that I do. I had one guy tell me I was trespassing on land that didn't belong to the person that gave him permission. Deer hunting for me is cheap exercise and a way to fill the freezer with meat. I firmly believe this is why young people don't want to go hunting anymore.
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 15, 2014 8:19:26 GMT -5
I will gladly cause a civil war within the "hunting" ranks if I know something illegal is occurring. I care far too much about the integrity of the hunting sport for myself, and future generations...as for the trophy hunting, tv shows and leases and such....WHO CARES? That stuff is going to continue to happen, we as hunters need to wake up and realize this sport is only as clean and our image is only as clean as we make it.
If people were even just half as upset about illegal hunting practices as they are the "trophy world" or the "High powered rifles coming" or the "price of hunting" this whole sport would be SO MUCH BETTER!
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