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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 19:36:09 GMT -5
I had watched from a distance for a bit before joining the forum, but there was something I had obviously missed. A hunting site that has a classifieds, and aren`t allowed to sell firearms or even firearms related items?
There seem to be good folks here, but this bit of hypocrisy is too much for me. It smacks of anti-gun, and in the midst of guys who obviously are good, decent, law-abiding people, the salt of the earth: hunters.
I will not spend my money in places that demand I disarm in order to enter. Likewise, I cannot spend my time anywhere the tone is anti-gun.
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Post by HighCotton on Sept 4, 2014 19:55:31 GMT -5
"The tone is anti-gun?" That's just over the edge! Good thing I'm not the administrator because I'd simply delete this post!!!
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Post by swilk on Sept 4, 2014 20:00:37 GMT -5
Its not the decision of anyone on this forum....owner included. Its a rule of the software company used to actually generate the forum.
Could it be changed to a different forum .....yes. But considering Woody does this mostly, if not entirably, on his own dime I don't think think its a change we members could reasonably ask to be made.
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Post by HighCotton on Sept 4, 2014 20:02:45 GMT -5
Its not the decision of anyone on this forum....owner included. Its a rule of the software company used to actually generate the forum. Could it be changed to a different forum .....yes. But considering Woody does this mostly, if not entirably, on his own dime I don't think think its a change we members could reasonably ask to be made.  |
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Post by swilk on Sept 4, 2014 20:14:55 GMT -5
Also, if I remember correctly, it was a change in policy after the site had been established for a number of years.
So....leave if you must but don't leave with the opinion anything about the ownership of this site is anti gun.
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Post by firstwd on Sept 4, 2014 20:48:49 GMT -5
We may disagree on what type of gun should be used at what time, but I am certain that none of us are anti-gun.
We might get a little heated because of the passion we feel towards a certain subject, but in the end we all row the same ship.
I hope you find the forum you are looking for, or maybe you could start one.
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Post by htownhunter on Sept 5, 2014 4:30:05 GMT -5
See ya
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Post by featherduster on Sept 5, 2014 4:43:03 GMT -5
You come on board, make just 17 posts in less then a month then you tell us so long because you have us figured out.
I have been married to the same women for 40+ years and still don't have her figured out.
Odds are you joined just so you could make this last post.
It's like they say DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YA IN THE ASRSE.
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Post by Sasquatch on Sept 5, 2014 6:24:58 GMT -5
I must still be asleep........
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 5, 2014 6:28:58 GMT -5
We used to be able to buy and sell firearms on here but Proboards put a stop to it not Woody, not anyone else. Moving to another company was discussed but it was felt that loosing all the content and trying to get everyone to a new site would be more trouble than it was worth. (I agreed with that) I could understand leaving the board if there was an anti-gun sentiment on it; that is certainly not the case here.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2014 6:31:38 GMT -5
Of all the Indiana hunting forum options, good luck finding one more pro-gun than this one...good luck indeed!  |
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Post by throbak on Sept 5, 2014 7:53:41 GMT -5
I am in no way any way shape or form against guns But I think carrying open in a grocery store is a little too much My permit is for concealed and thats what I will do, not flaunt my rights, just quietly and unnoticeable use that right in that way
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Post by dadfsr on Sept 5, 2014 8:28:49 GMT -5
If you think this is an "anti-gun" site then you have NOT been looking at everything here....hate to say but you sound like the blind leading the blind!!!
Like Featherduster said-watch out for the door on the way out 'cause you obviously won't see it!!!!!!
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 5, 2014 8:40:41 GMT -5
I am in no way any way shape or form against guns But I think carrying open in a grocery store is a little too much My permit is for concealed and thats what I will do, not flaunt my rights, just quietly and unnoticeable use that right in that way An IN LTCH is not a license for carrying concealed. Nowhere will you find a requirement for concealment; it allows either exposed or concealed. |
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Post by dadfsr on Sept 5, 2014 8:47:41 GMT -5
I am in no way any way shape or form against guns But I think carrying open in a grocery store is a little too much My permit is for concealed and thats what I will do, not flaunt my rights, just quietly and unnoticeable use that right in that way An IN LTCH is not a license for carrying concealed. Nowhere will you find a requirement for concealment; it allows either exposed or concealed. Yes I can either carry concealed OR exposed....but there's certainly something to be said for walking softly and carrying a big stick! |
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 5, 2014 9:11:13 GMT -5
Gregr,
As several have explained to you the provider has a no firearm trade or sales rule. It is in their "Terms Of Service" agreement. They did not always have this in their TOS until about 4 or 5 years ago. Why they changed it was not revealed. It could be that they are anti-gun or covering their butts against any problems with lawsuits or illegal gun sales. This website was (and still is) flourishing at the time. It was my decision to stay with them as the problems of changing over to another bulletin board service would lose a lot of postings and more importantly a lot of members.
This site has never been a site put on the net to make any money. All the "sponsor links" are just links to member's or friend's sites. No money has exchanged hands. It is totally free to them. I'm out about $75 a year with maintaining the site and that is no big deal to me as it is a labor of love. It could become a big deal if I had to pay another provider and a hosting site. So I chose to stick with the provider that we have. Doing so I MUST abide by their TOS.
BTW - I've been offered some serious money for this site, but after investigating the buyer it became clear that they wanted to make it a charge site where the "sponsors" paid to have their links put up AND members paid for access. No thanks.. I built this site as a free site and as long as I am alive it will stay that way.
There are numerous sites that are in existence to sell, buy and trade guns so all one has to do to participate in that is to join those sites. So it is not that one does not have an opportunity to sell, buy or trade on the net.
Even though I'd like it to be , this site is not for everyone. If one finds something that they don't like they are free to leave, just like they were free to join. One thing I can assure you is that not a living soul on this site is anti-gun, but we must live by the rules that the provider gives us or cease to exist.
WW
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Post by throbak on Sept 5, 2014 12:18:10 GMT -5
I am in no way any way shape or form against guns But I think carrying open in a grocery store is a little too much My permit is for concealed and thats what I will do, not flaunt my rights, just quietly and unnoticeable use that right in that way An IN LTCH is not a license for carrying concealed. Nowhere will you find a requirement for concealment; it allows either exposed or concealed. And I think concealed is the More sensible option , I dont need the attention an open carry gets Maybe you do? Why would you want everyone staring at you ??and when every law is written there is also intent, I really dont think the intent of the law was to reinvent the Old West they figured most would have the common sense to conceal their weapons not scream for the attention it draws |
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Post by michaeladkins on Sept 5, 2014 12:28:06 GMT -5
An IN LTCH is not a license for carrying concealed. Nowhere will you find a requirement for concealment; it allows either exposed or concealed. And I think concealed is the More sensible option , I dont need the attention an open carry gets Maybe you do? Why would you want everyone staring at you ??and when every law is written there is also intent, I really dont think the intent of the law was to reinvent the Old West they figured most would have the common sense to conceal their weapons not scream for the attention it draws , I think he was just stating that Indiana doesn't have a conceal carry permit. Actually, when I read your post, I pulled out my permit to read what it said. I wanted to make sure it wasn't concealed, as I will open carry when hunting. Granted that is a little different but still, just wanted to verify. Carry how you want. I don't really have a problem with concealed or not. Just as long as you carry. ;-). How is that for anti-gun. |
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Post by swilk on Sept 5, 2014 12:34:43 GMT -5
Why does one person care how another person carries their firearm?
Open carry of a long gun is perfectly legal in the state of Indiana without any license at all .... do I think most guys who go walking around with an AR slung across their backs are just looking for attention? Sure i do. But maybe, just maybe, if there weren't folks telling them that they cant do it they wouldn't feel the need to prove they can.
I carry a handgun in the open from time to time ... if I am going to be working around my property I usually have a gun on my side even while driving to and from plus whatever stops in between. Other times I carry concealed.
Im a lot happier living my life while not giving a flying flip what anyone else thinks ... as long as my actions bring no physical harm to someone their opinion of my actions matter little to me.
And just FWIW .. there are currently states where concealed carry is illegal and open carry is legal without any sort of permit or license. The history of carrying a gun tells us in years past it was the shady folks who hid their guns and the upstanding folks who carried them for all to see.
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Post by throbak on Sept 5, 2014 13:25:29 GMT -5
Michael; Thats what the Intent of the permit was for a hunting type or maybe nite watch security guard situation and in your case swilk and no one would notice either in those cases but to do it as an attention getter I just dont approve not on a roll to change things either but people that do care will try so dont give those people and the media ammo Is all I am saying
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